If they do make season 4, I would love to either go back to Clementine as a playable character, or have another female lead, with Clementine as a strong secondary main character (as in she gets alot of screentime), it would be kinda interesting to interact with Clementine as a female, as we have only done so with male characters, and never got to see much of Clem and Christas time together
While I don't hate ANF to guts, it's definitely my least favorite of the three seasons. The only reason I play it is Clementine. And I enjoy… more every moment she's on screen. So I really hope they go back to S1/S2 or something inbetween quality with Season Four, if there is one.
Mariana is probably the smartest of the bunch, so maybe we can assume that Javier kinda knows what he is doing since he has probably taught Mariana
Ignoring the other stuff for a bit, I think this is very likely, as one line in Above the Law basically confirmed my theory from Part 1 that Javier and Kate were basically playing favorites on a very minor level, even if nobody particularly cared much.
This is true for most of the main group really, no way Gabe would survive this long while being such a dickbag, no way Kate would survive so… more long while being ignorant, smoking weed, and generally not having any character traits beyond hating David and boning Javi, Javier, we dont really know, but considering his general attitude and stuff, I feel like he wouldnt last long either, Mariana is probably the smartest of the bunch, so maybe we can assume that Javier kinda knows what he is doing since he has probably taught Mariana
Frankly it feels like the only reason alot of the characters is alive is just "lol plot"
Javi being alive increases Tripps chance of surviving the firefight. Besides that, why would Tripp want Javi to die? Sure Javi killed Conrad but that doesn't mean Tripp has to become a murderer.
If they do make season 4, I would love to either go back to Clementine as a playable character, or have another female lead, with Clementine… more as a strong secondary main character (as in she gets alot of screentime), it would be kinda interesting to interact with Clementine as a female, as we have only done so with male characters, and never got to see much of Clem and Christas time together
The finale is not going to be good. I think we all know this. It won't have the emotional impact Season 1 and 2 had (well the Wellington ending's emotional feeling anyway). It's a shame because despite my criticism of this season, i have wanted to like the game, i have wanted it to be good but it hasn't been and i predicted this before it was even released
Yeah, I try to be pretty forgiving about certain little things anyway and there's a few nitpicks and issues here and there that I've intenti… moreonally neglected to mention(with decreasing investment, mind you) for the sake of getting through this with a relative positive outlook.
Unfortunately, I feel like the "stakes" of finale has already made that feel kinda pointless.
I agree, at the end of S1 I cried like a bitch, at the end of S2, I cried like a bitch when Kenny tried to convince me to stay at Wellington and I refused, and cried again when he tried and I stayed on a later playthrough.
No matter how often I see those 2 endings, they get me everytime.
I don't think ANF has enough meat in it to pull something off.
Edit: Oh and the flashback in S2? I don't think I need to tell.
The finale is not going to be good. I think we all know this. It won't have the emotional impact Season 1 and 2 had (well the Wellington end… moreing's emotional feeling anyway). It's a shame because despite my criticism of this season, i have wanted to like the game, i have wanted it to be good but it hasn't been and i predicted this before it was even released
Yeah, I don't any of us(trolls and haters aside) wanted ANF to suck despite the skepticism.
Hell, I'd be surprised if it's a remotely decent ending to this installment! I feels like they got a little too crazy with the determinant choices and now we're going into the finale with little to no clue as to what to expect. As much as I enjoyed Thicker than Water for the most part, that ending felt clumsy even the first time. despite my "high."
The finale is not going to be good. I think we all know this. It won't have the emotional impact Season 1 and 2 had (well the Wellington end… moreing's emotional feeling anyway). It's a shame because despite my criticism of this season, i have wanted to like the game, i have wanted it to be good but it hasn't been and i predicted this before it was even released
Agreed Tobi! I felt so much emotion for season 1 and season 2's endings. I have to say though that if it was one of the cabin crew members who arrived at Wellington at the end instead of Kenny I wouldn't have felt anything you know because I didn't care for anyone in season 2. Just everything we went through with Kenny, the history etc. I'd feel the same if Omid or Christa had made it to Wellington. That's the impact those Season 1 characters had on me and its a shame that Telltale can't make me care about any new characters these days.
I agree, at the end of S1 I cried like a bitch, at the end of S2, I cried like a bitch when Kenny tried to convince me to stay at Wellington… more and I refused, and cried again when he tried and I stayed on a later playthrough.
No matter how often I see those 2 endings, they get me everytime.
I don't think ANF has enough meat in it to pull something off.
Edit: Oh and the flashback in S2? I don't think I need to tell.
You could explain it away with, "if you survive 4 years in the apocalypse, you probably know when its a good idea to hold on to your allies,… more such as when a whole community is shooting at you", but its probably just lazy writing, honestly it feels like the entire choice path of shooting Conrad has been severely underdeveloped compared to letting him live, I am all for the fact that one choice leads to a better outcome than the other, but so far there hasnt been a single good thing happen from shooting Conrad, except like 1 time where Clem defends you when Gabe rats you out, they should have really had Clem be much colder towards Javi if you let Conrad live
I think the Cabin Group was alright, a bit shallow because we didn't get much background information, but alright I think. Alvin was a big teddy bear kinda guy which stood out to me, Nick was a Vanilla Ice young-Kenny, and had his own impulsive character.
But I agree Dan (may I call you that? Judging the username, but as you said, you can never trust a username ), The Wellington endings wouldn't have been the same with the Cabin Group members.
And TTG's plight is to have killed almost everyone off at the ends of S1 and S2. If they keep people around at the end of ANF, and we get another season with them they could pull it off again; I try to be optimistic. I mean, after all, neither in the comics or in the TV show does everybody bite the dust at the end of a season. A lot of the original group have stayed alive for long time. So I don't see a problem with keeping some people around for a long time in the game either.
Edit: And yeah, what TTG did to Omid and Christa was pretty ungrateful for taking care of Clementine.
Agreed Tobi! I felt so much emotion for season 1 and season 2's endings. I have to say though that if it was one of the cabin crew members w… moreho arrived at Wellington at the end instead of Kenny I wouldn't have felt anything you know because I didn't care for anyone in season 2. Just everything we went through with Kenny, the history etc. I'd feel the same if Omid or Christa had made it to Wellington. That's the impact those Season 1 characters had on me and its a shame that Telltale can't make me care about any new characters these days.
With all due respect, this one seems like a nitpick more than anything
A determinant character doesn't show up on screen for a 20 second scene. Big whoop. Kenny forgot Ben existed when he was trying to break open the attic wall ("We'll work in shifts. Omid, Christa, and I. Lee, you rest.")
Maybe it's just, but it seems like you have a tendency to go out of your way to prove that you don't like this game. Most threads related to it, it's the same thing-- "Telltale just isn't like it used to be" "This game really went down" "This series just isn't good anymore" and so on. You seemingly try to fit it into every post you make related to this game series, to the point where it's starting to feel like you're just saying it for the sake of saying it. Rhetoric like that loses its weight the more someone feels compelled to repeat it... and eventually, it starts to become kinda grating, in all brutal honesty.
It's like having a friend that doesn't like a band, and constantly brings up the fact he doesn't like it all the time. Like you're watching TV with him, and suddenly he's like "This reminds me how I really don't like Nickelback." Or perhaps you're listening to some other artist and he just swoops in like "Eh, at least it's not Nickelback, I really don't like them." Or maybe you're just playing cards with him, and suddenly he's all "Have I told you how I really don't like Nickelback?"
Yes, okay, you don't like the game. You think it pales in comparison to the previous seasons. You think Telltale isn't that good anymore. You think they'll never make a game like S1 again. We hear you loud and clear, man. Don't gotta keep saying it so much.
Again, I don't mean to offend you or anything. Maybe I'm the one that's wrong about all of this. Maybe I'm the one making the big deal out of nothing. I dunno.
With all due respect, this one seems like a nitpick more than anything
A determinant character doesn't show up on screen for a 20 second … morescene. Big whoop. Kenny forgot Ben existed when he was trying to break open the attic wall ("We'll work in shifts. Omid, Christa, and I. Lee, you rest.")
Maybe it's just, but it seems like you have a tendency to go out of your way to prove that you don't like this game. Most threads related to it, it's the same thing-- "Telltale just isn't like it used to be" "This game really went down" "This series just isn't good anymore" and so on. You seemingly try to fit it into every post you make related to this game series, to the point where it's starting to feel like you're just saying it for the sake of saying it. Rhetoric like that loses its weight the more someone feels compelled to repeat it... and eventually, it starts to become kinda grating, in all brutal honesty.
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A determinant character doesn't show up on screen for a 20 second scene. Big whoop. Kenny forgot Ben existed when he was trying to break open the attic wall ("We'll work in shifts. Omid, Christa, and I. Lee, you rest.")
Or you could also argue that he still had some resentment for Ben that he didn't say his name but yes on the other hand this is true what you say and i do not deny that.
Maybe it's just, but it seems like you have a tendency to go out of your way to prove that you don't like this game.
Well with all due respect to you Deltino, regardless of how many times i repeat my distaste for the direction Telltale have gone since 2012 in my opinion, please don't let it bother you. I am not alone on this and i have the right to continue to voice my annoyance about this until i am heard by Telltale (which i know will be never but it still makes me feel better to rant). I'd love a member of staff to discuss things with me but that will never happen either.
So i am sorry you are tired of my repeated posts but i just feel so angry every time discussing so many things wrong with the company that i just get reeled in to it a lot
With all due respect, this one seems like a nitpick more than anything
A determinant character doesn't show up on screen for a 20 second … morescene. Big whoop. Kenny forgot Ben existed when he was trying to break open the attic wall ("We'll work in shifts. Omid, Christa, and I. Lee, you rest.")
Maybe it's just, but it seems like you have a tendency to go out of your way to prove that you don't like this game. Most threads related to it, it's the same thing-- "Telltale just isn't like it used to be" "This game really went down" "This series just isn't good anymore" and so on. You seemingly try to fit it into every post you make related to this game series, to the point where it's starting to feel like you're just saying it for the sake of saying it. Rhetoric like that loses its weight the more someone feels compelled to repeat it... and eventually, it starts to become kinda grating, in all brutal honesty.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I leave... quite a bit to be desired in that respect. Even moreso after some of my behavior last week (you probably know what I'm talking about). I have a bit of a penchant for making other people's business my business at times
I suppose at the end of the day, we're just two sides of the same coin-- both annoyed/disheartened with something
A determinant character doesn't show up on screen for a 20 second scene. Big whoop. Kenny forgot Ben existed when he was trying to break ope… moren the attic wall ("We'll work in shifts. Omid, Christa, and I. Lee, you rest.")
Or you could also argue that he still had some resentment for Ben that he didn't say his name but yes on the other hand this is true what you say and i do not deny that.
Maybe it's just, but it seems like you have a tendency to go out of your way to prove that you don't like this game.
Well with all due respect to you Deltino, regardless of how many times i repeat my distaste for the direction Telltale have gone since 2012 in my opinion, please don't let it bother you. I am not alone on this and i have the right to continue to voice my annoyance about this until i am heard by Telltale (which i know will be never but it still makes me feel better to rant). I'd love a member of staff to discuss things with … [view original content]
please don't let it bother you.
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I leave... quite a bit to be desired in that respect. Even moreso after so… moreme of my behavior last week (you probably know what I'm talking about). I have a bit of a penchant for making other people's business my business at times
I suppose at the end of the day, we're just two sides of the same coin-- both annoyed/disheartened with something
Every post I've read from you has always been very conciderate
Ehh... I try to be considerate, but I'll admit it myself-- there's been more than a few times where I let my temper get the better of me. I won't pretend it hasn't happened before, and I won't act like some people here weren't on the receiving end of it.
Don't beat yourself up about it. Got insulted here once as well and I found myself not to be as considerate as I use to be. So it's a human thing to be.
So, just look at them eyes couple comments above these here.
Every post I've read from you has always been very conciderate
Ehh... I try to be considerate, but I'll admit it myself-- there's be… moreen more than a few times where I let my temper get the better of me. I won't pretend it hasn't happened before, and I won't act like some people here weren't on the receiving end of it.
These are different situations, and the reason for them to die would have been different. Kate and Gabe could stay alive by staying away from other people and having Javi around to pick up the slack when they acted stupid. Basically, they were able to mostly isolate themselves and to stay out of trouble.
But Tripp was some sort of community leader. I find it hard to believe that someone like Tripp, in all those years, wouldn't end up trusting a bad person and getting stabbed in the back. I mean, how many people passed through Prescott? How many groups? And nobody tried to take advantage of the cuddly leader to snatch the power?
This is true for most of the main group really, no way Gabe would survive this long while being such a dickbag, no way Kate would survive so… more long while being ignorant, smoking weed, and generally not having any character traits beyond hating David and boning Javi, Javier, we dont really know, but considering his general attitude and stuff, I feel like he wouldnt last long either, Mariana is probably the smartest of the bunch, so maybe we can assume that Javier kinda knows what he is doing since he has probably taught Mariana
Frankly it feels like the only reason alot of the characters is alive is just "lol plot"
Probably just so he could get Clementine to safety since he did see her being cornered in that spot during the firefight which is why immediatelly after spotting her is when the Line of Covering Javi comes.
I think the Cabin Group was alright, a bit shallow because we didn't get much background information, but alright I think. Alvin was a big teddy bear kinda guy which stood out to me, Nick was a Vanilla Ice young-Kenny, and had his own impulsive character.
Oh they are certainly more interesting than anyone we have got in this game for sure! You are spot on though, the fact we did not get enough background info on them is the reason why I couldn't bond with any of them and it only got worse as new characters joined the season like Mike and Jane. We got small info like Nick and Luke were good friends and had known each other for 20 years, ran a business together. I liked Pete and it was nice to hear the story about him teaching Nick to shoot, the brief mention of Nick saying he had to shoot his mother gave me more insight to his character. Sadly though we knew nothing about Alvin or Rebecca's lives except that they went skiing once? Carlos and Sarah literally nothing about them either. I just feel they wasted a lot of potential on these characters compared to those in Season 1.
But I agree Dan (may I call you that? Judging the username, but as you said, you can never trust a username
Haha yep you may indeed!
And TTG's plight is to have killed almost everyone off at the ends of S1 and S2. If they keep people around at the end of ANF, and we get another season with them they could pull it off again; I try to be optimistic. I mean, after all, neither in the comics or in the TV show does everybody bite the dust at the end of a season. A lot of the original group have stayed alive for long time. So I don't see a problem with keeping some people around for a long time in the game either.
Oh totally! In the comics and show at least characters survived for a fair amount of time before being killed off and i do wish more had survived from Season 1. I was annoyed that not a single season 2 character survived besides AJ and determinant Jane. They are heading the same way for Season 3 as well sadly.
Edit: And yeah, what TTG did to Omid and Christa was pretty ungrateful for taking care of Clementine.
Oh for sure. I think you read some of the thread i made a while back about how i would have changed Season 2 at the time? I would have kept Omid and Christa alive a lot longer including other Season 1 characters like Carley/Doug living longer than they do in the actual game:
I think the Cabin Group was alright, a bit shallow because we didn't get much background information, but alright I think. Alvin was a big t… moreeddy bear kinda guy which stood out to me, Nick was a Vanilla Ice young-Kenny, and had his own impulsive character.
But I agree Dan (may I call you that? Judging the username, but as you said, you can never trust a username ), The Wellington endings wouldn't have been the same with the Cabin Group members.
And TTG's plight is to have killed almost everyone off at the ends of S1 and S2. If they keep people around at the end of ANF, and we get another season with them they could pull it off again; I try to be optimistic. I mean, after all, neither in the comics or in the TV show does everybody bite the dust at the end of a season. A lot of the original group have stayed alive for long time. So I don't see a problem with keeping some people around for a long time in the game either.
Edit: And yeah, what TTG did to Omid and Christa was pretty ungrateful for taking care of Clementine.
Oh totally! In the comics and show at least characters survived for a fair amount of time before being killed off and i do wish more had survived from Season 1. I was annoyed that not a single season 2 character survived besides AJ and determinant Jane. They are heading the same way for Season 3 as well sadly.
Whaaat, Jane survived for you? You shot Kenny?! Haha, just kidding. For me it was Kenny though but yeah. It was a death sentence for both anyways.
Oh for sure. I think you read some of the thread i made a while back about how i would have changed Season 2 at the time? I would have kept Omid and Christa alive a lot longer including other Season 1 characters like Carley/Doug living longer than they do in the actual game:
I actually did not see that thread. It was created before I registered here so that must be why. But I will definitely have a look into it.
I don't understand why they had to kill off Christa and Omid anyways, they weren't determinant.
I think the Cabin Group was alright, a bit shallow because we didn't get much background information, but alright I think. Alvin was a big t… moreeddy bear kinda guy which stood out to me, Nick was a Vanilla Ice young-Kenny, and had his own impulsive character.
Oh they are certainly more interesting than anyone we have got in this game for sure! You are spot on though, the fact we did not get enough background info on them is the reason why I couldn't bond with any of them and it only got worse as new characters joined the season like Mike and Jane. We got small info like Nick and Luke were good friends and had known each other for 20 years, ran a business together. I liked Pete and it was nice to hear the story about him teaching Nick to shoot, the brief mention of Nick saying he had to shoot his mother gave me more insight to his character. Sadly though we knew nothing about Alvin or Rebecca's lives except that they went skiing once? Carl… [view original content]
Whaaat, Jane survived for you? You shot Kenny?! Haha, just kidding. For me it was Kenny though but yeah. It was a death sentence for both anyways.
Oh hell no! Of course Jane didn't survive in mine. Kenny was always going to survive in my game. I was saying determinantely she and AJ are the only season 2 characters that survive. I personally think they should have had more characters live on into S3.
I actually did not see that thread. It was created before I registered here so that must be why. But I will definitely have a look into it.
I don't understand why they had to kill off Christa and Omid anyways, they weren't determinant.
Huh? But you did comment on it before though lol?:
Haha 29th April you did lol but hey please by all means read my entire game idea. And post your own if you wish
Oh totally! In the comics and show at least characters survived for a fair amount of time before being killed off and i do wish more had sur… morevived from Season 1. I was annoyed that not a single season 2 character survived besides AJ and determinant Jane. They are heading the same way for Season 3 as well sadly.
Whaaat, Jane survived for you? You shot Kenny?! Haha, just kidding. For me it was Kenny though but yeah. It was a death sentence for both anyways.
Oh for sure. I think you read some of the thread i made a while back about how i would have changed Season 2 at the time? I would have kept Omid and Christa alive a lot longer including other Season 1 characters like Carley/Doug living longer than they do in the actual game:
https://telltale.com/community/discussion/107458/what-changes-to-deceased-determinant-unknown-characters-would-you-make-if-you-could-change-things/p7
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Ohhh! Now I remember. Don't have the best memory, or at least I don't keep good track of my comments. Alright, that means I gotta read it completely then.
I still think they should hire you as co-writer, haha.
Edit:
I was saying determinantely she and AJ are the only season 2 characters that survive.
I don't quite get it; she dies as well in S3, or am I missing something? So determinantly Kenny or Jane and AJ survive into S3.
Maybe I just misunderstand you there.
Whaaat, Jane survived for you? You shot Kenny?! Haha, just kidding. For me it was Kenny though but yeah. It was a death sentence for both an… moreyways.
Oh hell no! Of course Jane didn't survive in mine. Kenny was always going to survive in my game. I was saying determinantely she and AJ are the only season 2 characters that survive. I personally think they should have had more characters live on into S3.
I actually did not see that thread. It was created before I registered here so that must be why. But I will definitely have a look into it.
I don't understand why they had to kill off Christa and Omid anyways, they weren't determinant.
Huh? But you did comment on it before though lol?:
Haha 29th April you did lol but hey please by all means read my entire game idea. And post your own if you wish
Yes please read my thread! I put months of time into it before posting! It's long but worth it. Also I would be interested to hear what you would do if you were playing "my game" lol and of course your own ideas.
I don't quite get it; she dies as well in S3, or am I missing something? So determinantly Kenny or Jane and AJ survive into S3.
Maybe I just misunderstand you there.
Lol hence why i said determinantely for Jane. Basically other than AJ, Jane is the only other Season 2 character who can survive on into S3 depending on the player's choice. Every other S2 character dies or becomes unknown which kinda still counts as gone in my opinion. Yeah she dies in S3 obviously, i thought you were talking about how hardly any S1 or S2 characters survived the seasons? Ahh I don't know where this is going haha but i know what you mean and i know what i am saying lol
Ohhh! Now I remember. Don't have the best memory, or at least I don't keep good track of my comments. Alright, that means I gotta read it co… morempletely then.
I still think they should hire you as co-writer, haha.
Edit:
I was saying determinantely she and AJ are the only season 2 characters that survive.
I don't quite get it; she dies as well in S3, or am I missing something? So determinantly Kenny or Jane and AJ survive into S3.
Maybe I just misunderstand you there.
Yes please read my thread! I put months of time into it before posting! It's long but worth it. Also I would be interested to hear what you would do if you were playing "my game" lol and of course your own ideas.
I'll read it tonight after work and will tell how you I "played".
Lol hence why i said determinanteley for Jane. Basically other than AJ, Jane is the only other Season 2 character who can survive on into S3 depending on the player's choice. Every other S2 character dies or becomes unknown which kinda still counts as gone in my opinion. Yeah she dies in S3 obviously, i thought you were talking about how hardly any S1 or S2 characters survived the seasons? Ahh I don't know where this is going haha but i know what you mean and i know what i am saying lol
Yeah but Kenny survives determinantely as well. So either Kenny or Jane will determinantely survive into A New Frontier. Clementine and AJ are the only two non-determinant characters that survive.
Yeah I also think Mike, Bonnie and Arvo are gone for good; maybe they're headin' Texas, as Mike suggested, if they didn't starve.
Yes please read my thread! I put months of time into it before posting! It's long but worth it. Also I would be interested to hear what you … morewould do if you were playing "my game" lol and of course your own ideas.
I don't quite get it; she dies as well in S3, or am I missing something? So determinantly Kenny or Jane and AJ survive into S3.
Maybe I just misunderstand you there.
Lol hence why i said determinantely for Jane. Basically other than AJ, Jane is the only other Season 2 character who can survive on into S3 depending on the player's choice. Every other S2 character dies or becomes unknown which kinda still counts as gone in my opinion. Yeah she dies in S3 obviously, i thought you were talking about how hardly any S1 or S2 characters survived the seasons? Ahh I don't know where this is going haha but i know what you mean and i know what i am saying lol
Yes please read my thread! I put months of time into it before posting! It's long but worth it. Also I would be interested to hear what you … morewould do if you were playing "my game" lol and of course your own ideas.
I'll read it tonight after work and will tell how you I "played".
Lol hence why i said determinanteley for Jane. Basically other than AJ, Jane is the only other Season 2 character who can survive on into S3 depending on the player's choice. Every other S2 character dies or becomes unknown which kinda still counts as gone in my opinion. Yeah she dies in S3 obviously, i thought you were talking about how hardly any S1 or S2 characters survived the seasons? Ahh I don't know where this is going haha but i know what you mean and i know what i am saying lol
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People really get on the trollwagon assuming anyone who dislikes the game wants it to fail. I'm in the majority when I say I really enjoyed the first two seasons, and I definitely didn't want the third to fall on its face. I do have genuine criticisms about it, and I didn't buy the game hoping it would be worse. I find the direction questionable and feel disappointed, I wasn't hoping for that but its just what happened. I do hope that changes.
Yeah, I don't any of us(trolls and haters aside) wanted ANF to suck despite the skepticism.
Hell, I'd be surprised if it's a remotely dec… moreent ending to this installment! I feels like they got a little too crazy with the determinant choices and now we're going into the finale with little to no clue as to what to expect. As much as I enjoyed Thicker than Water for the most part, that ending felt clumsy even the first time. despite my "high."
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If they do make season 4, I would love to either go back to Clementine as a playable character, or have another female lead, with Clementine as a strong secondary main character (as in she gets alot of screentime), it would be kinda interesting to interact with Clementine as a female, as we have only done so with male characters, and never got to see much of Clem and Christas time together
Ignoring the other stuff for a bit, I think this is very likely, as one line in Above the Law basically confirmed my theory from Part 1 that Javier and Kate were basically playing favorites on a very minor level, even if nobody particularly cared much.
Because Javi was willing to let Joan execute him.
This. So much this. Part of the reason I kinda wanted to see Lilly or even Christa return.
The finale is not going to be good. I think we all know this. It won't have the emotional impact Season 1 and 2 had (well the Wellington ending's emotional feeling anyway). It's a shame because despite my criticism of this season, i have wanted to like the game, i have wanted it to be good but it hasn't been and i predicted this before it was even released
I agree, at the end of S1 I cried like a bitch, at the end of S2, I cried like a bitch when Kenny tried to convince me to stay at Wellington and I refused, and cried again when he tried and I stayed on a later playthrough.
No matter how often I see those 2 endings, they get me everytime.
I don't think ANF has enough meat in it to pull something off.
Edit: Oh and the flashback in S2? I don't think I need to tell.
Yeah, I don't any of us(trolls and haters aside) wanted ANF to suck despite the skepticism.
Hell, I'd be surprised if it's a remotely decent ending to this installment! I feels like they got a little too crazy with the determinant choices and now we're going into the finale with little to no clue as to what to expect. As much as I enjoyed Thicker than Water for the most part, that ending felt clumsy even the first time. despite my "high."
Agreed Tobi! I felt so much emotion for season 1 and season 2's endings. I have to say though that if it was one of the cabin crew members who arrived at Wellington at the end instead of Kenny I wouldn't have felt anything you know because I didn't care for anyone in season 2. Just everything we went through with Kenny, the history etc. I'd feel the same if Omid or Christa had made it to Wellington. That's the impact those Season 1 characters had on me and its a shame that Telltale can't make me care about any new characters these days.
And that comes 2 episodes later. I agree completely, why wasn't there a confrontation earlier about this? I don't even.
I think the Cabin Group was alright, a bit shallow because we didn't get much background information, but alright I think. Alvin was a big teddy bear kinda guy which stood out to me, Nick was a Vanilla Ice young-Kenny, and had his own impulsive character.
), The Wellington endings wouldn't have been the same with the Cabin Group members.
But I agree Dan (may I call you that? Judging the username, but as you said, you can never trust a username
And TTG's plight is to have killed almost everyone off at the ends of S1 and S2. If they keep people around at the end of ANF, and we get another season with them they could pull it off again; I try to be optimistic. I mean, after all, neither in the comics or in the TV show does everybody bite the dust at the end of a season. A lot of the original group have stayed alive for long time. So I don't see a problem with keeping some people around for a long time in the game either.
Edit: And yeah, what TTG did to Omid and Christa was pretty ungrateful for taking care of Clementine.
With all due respect, this one seems like a nitpick more than anything
A determinant character doesn't show up on screen for a 20 second scene. Big whoop. Kenny forgot Ben existed when he was trying to break open the attic wall ("We'll work in shifts. Omid, Christa, and I. Lee, you rest.")
Maybe it's just, but it seems like you have a tendency to go out of your way to prove that you don't like this game. Most threads related to it, it's the same thing-- "Telltale just isn't like it used to be" "This game really went down" "This series just isn't good anymore" and so on. You seemingly try to fit it into every post you make related to this game series, to the point where it's starting to feel like you're just saying it for the sake of saying it. Rhetoric like that loses its weight the more someone feels compelled to repeat it... and eventually, it starts to become kinda grating, in all brutal honesty.
It's like having a friend that doesn't like a band, and constantly brings up the fact he doesn't like it all the time. Like you're watching TV with him, and suddenly he's like "This reminds me how I really don't like Nickelback." Or perhaps you're listening to some other artist and he just swoops in like "Eh, at least it's not Nickelback, I really don't like them." Or maybe you're just playing cards with him, and suddenly he's all "Have I told you how I really don't like Nickelback?"
Yes, okay, you don't like the game. You think it pales in comparison to the previous seasons. You think Telltale isn't that good anymore. You think they'll never make a game like S1 again. We hear you loud and clear, man. Don't gotta keep saying it so much.
Again, I don't mean to offend you or anything. Maybe I'm the one that's wrong about all of this. Maybe I'm the one making the big deal out of nothing. I dunno.
Take a deep breath and say "It's okay".
I just think he needs to vent. Although I agree some people take their criticism with ANF pretty far.
Or you could also argue that he still had some resentment for Ben that he didn't say his name but yes on the other hand this is true what you say and i do not deny that.
Well with all due respect to you Deltino, regardless of how many times i repeat my distaste for the direction Telltale have gone since 2012 in my opinion, please don't let it bother you. I am not alone on this and i have the right to continue to voice my annoyance about this until i am heard by Telltale (which i know will be never but it still makes me feel better to rant). I'd love a member of staff to discuss things with me but that will never happen either.
So i am sorry you are tired of my repeated posts but i just feel so angry every time discussing so many things wrong with the company that i just get reeled in to it a lot
Thank you
Those eyes calm everyone down, trust me.
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I leave... quite a bit to be desired in that respect. Even moreso after some of my behavior last week (you probably know what I'm talking about). I have a bit of a penchant for making other people's business my business at times
I suppose at the end of the day, we're just two sides of the same coin-- both annoyed/disheartened with something
Every post I've read from you has always been very conciderate.
I never saw you attacking someone, merely voicing your opinion.
Ehh... I try to be considerate, but I'll admit it myself-- there's been more than a few times where I let my temper get the better of me. I won't pretend it hasn't happened before, and I won't act like some people here weren't on the receiving end of it.
Don't beat yourself up about it. Got insulted here once as well and I found myself not to be as considerate as I use to be. So it's a human thing to be.
So, just look at them eyes couple comments above these here.
These are different situations, and the reason for them to die would have been different. Kate and Gabe could stay alive by staying away from other people and having Javi around to pick up the slack when they acted stupid. Basically, they were able to mostly isolate themselves and to stay out of trouble.
But Tripp was some sort of community leader. I find it hard to believe that someone like Tripp, in all those years, wouldn't end up trusting a bad person and getting stabbed in the back. I mean, how many people passed through Prescott? How many groups? And nobody tried to take advantage of the cuddly leader to snatch the power?
you mean back at the cabin? I never got that one.
Probably just so he could get Clementine to safety since he did see her being cornered in that spot during the firefight which is why immediatelly after spotting her is when the Line of Covering Javi comes.
Oh they are certainly more interesting than anyone we have got in this game for sure! You are spot on though, the fact we did not get enough background info on them is the reason why I couldn't bond with any of them and it only got worse as new characters joined the season like Mike and Jane. We got small info like Nick and Luke were good friends and had known each other for 20 years, ran a business together. I liked Pete and it was nice to hear the story about him teaching Nick to shoot, the brief mention of Nick saying he had to shoot his mother gave me more insight to his character. Sadly though we knew nothing about Alvin or Rebecca's lives except that they went skiing once? Carlos and Sarah literally nothing about them either. I just feel they wasted a lot of potential on these characters compared to those in Season 1.
Haha yep you may indeed!
Oh totally! In the comics and show at least characters survived for a fair amount of time before being killed off and i do wish more had survived from Season 1. I was annoyed that not a single season 2 character survived besides AJ and determinant Jane. They are heading the same way for Season 3 as well sadly.
Oh for sure. I think you read some of the thread i made a while back about how i would have changed Season 2 at the time? I would have kept Omid and Christa alive a lot longer including other Season 1 characters like Carley/Doug living longer than they do in the actual game:
https://telltale.com/community/discussion/107458/what-changes-to-deceased-determinant-unknown-characters-would-you-make-if-you-could-change-things/p7
Whaaat, Jane survived for you? You shot Kenny?! Haha, just kidding. For me it was Kenny though but yeah. It was a death sentence for both anyways.
https://telltale.com/community/discussion/107458/what-changes-to-deceased-determinant-unknown-characters-would-you-make-if-you-could-change-things/p7
I actually did not see that thread. It was created before I registered here so that must be why. But I will definitely have a look into it.
I don't understand why they had to kill off Christa and Omid anyways, they weren't determinant.
Oh hell no! Of course Jane didn't survive in mine. Kenny was always going to survive in my game. I was saying determinantely she and AJ are the only season 2 characters that survive. I personally think they should have had more characters live on into S3.
Huh? But you did comment on it before though lol?:
Haha 29th April you did lol but hey please by all means read my entire game idea. And post your own if you wish
Ohhh! Now I remember. Don't have the best memory, or at least I don't keep good track of my comments. Alright, that means I gotta read it completely then.
I still think they should hire you as co-writer, haha.
Edit:
I don't quite get it; she dies as well in S3, or am I missing something? So determinantly Kenny or Jane and AJ survive into S3.
Maybe I just misunderstand you there.
Yes please read my thread! I put months of time into it before posting! It's long but worth it. Also I would be interested to hear what you would do if you were playing "my game" lol and of course your own ideas.
Lol hence why i said determinantely for Jane. Basically other than AJ, Jane is the only other Season 2 character who can survive on into S3 depending on the player's choice. Every other S2 character dies or becomes unknown which kinda still counts as gone in my opinion. Yeah she dies in S3 obviously, i thought you were talking about how hardly any S1 or S2 characters survived the seasons? Ahh I don't know where this is going haha but i know what you mean and i know what i am saying lol
I'll read it tonight after work and will tell how you I "played".
Yeah but Kenny survives determinantely as well. So either Kenny or Jane will determinantely survive into A New Frontier. Clementine and AJ are the only two non-determinant characters that survive.
Yeah I also think Mike, Bonnie and Arvo are gone for good; maybe they're headin' Texas, as Mike suggested, if they didn't starve.
Tripp is so inconsistent that lazy writing 101 would most likely be the answer.
Cheers Tobi
People really get on the trollwagon assuming anyone who dislikes the game wants it to fail. I'm in the majority when I say I really enjoyed the first two seasons, and I definitely didn't want the third to fall on its face. I do have genuine criticisms about it, and I didn't buy the game hoping it would be worse. I find the direction questionable and feel disappointed, I wasn't hoping for that but its just what happened. I do hope that changes.