sooo he s not supposed to get mad that a guy who he met a couple of days ago killed one of his friends who he s known for a while from his own Group? Yeah still dont see that logic. Yes he did trust javier but that doesnt stop him from being mad at him for the murder of one of his friends.
Tripp lost his entire character by flipping out at the guy he kept calling his best friend and not allowing any explanation, then claiming h… moree was better off with Joan. Again this is being generous and thinking Tripp had much of a character before that. However loyal and trusting reasonable guy who wants to avoid trouble all got thrown out the window.
This is the guy who sides with and calls javi the boss of the group within a day, but no now he flips out and acts deranged. His turn isnt quite as bad as gabes but still there we go.
Yes. First of all she's clearly hesitant and feels guilty about selling you out if Conrad is alive, secondly, I want to like her and hope she gets some development.
Tripp lost his entire character by flipping out at the guy he kept calling his best friend and not allowing any explanation, then claiming h… moree was better off with Joan. Again this is being generous and thinking Tripp had much of a character before that. However loyal and trusting reasonable guy who wants to avoid trouble all got thrown out the window.
This is the guy who sides with and calls javi the boss of the group within a day, but no now he flips out and acts deranged. His turn isnt quite as bad as gabes but still there we go.
I don't know. Let's see what she has to say first on why she betrayed us. If it was a good reason out of concern for Tripp and the others, than I won't kill her. If it's for her own safety and not others, I'd kill her.
I agree. Since I killed Conrad, I'm the same in her eyes as ANF without the added benefits of a luxury town doctor's suite, and an extended protection plan. There's no way for her to verify the context and reasoning I had for shooting Conrad. Heck, looking at the situation on the train, it would sound entirely made up. Conrad wants to trade Clementine for his own people, and grabs Gabe at gunpoint for negotiation when she's in the same arm's length? Who would do that?
In a lose/lose scenario, Eleanor selected what she thought was the lesser of two evils from her treatment. Tripp was obviously not on board with this betrayal when Joan's men arrived, or he wouldn't have been on the chopping block with Ava. She anticipated a trial, banishment, but certainly not the execution of Ava or Tripp right in front of her eyes. As far as she's been told, that's how they've always done things. ( Clint makes this reference of how they've done things. )
If we find her again alive, and depending on how she behaves, I'll forgive her. I don't know how people will forgive her if they spared Conrad. The scenario completely breaks down into her trading your lives for room service and fluffy beds. That's a lot tougher to swallow.
It depends on her attitude towards Javier when facing them. If she's remorseful, I am the last person who you can't talk to. But if she's th… moree opposite of that, or even threatens someone of Javi's group (Clem, yes even Gabe, David, etc), she'll meet the deadly end of my gun.
She only did it because she just wanted to be safe and was determinately mad at Javi for lying about Conrad (as shown through how she responds to Joan calling her out in the crowd).
I would probably spare her as it wouldn't matter in the end. After a choice like this, her role in the game would be done. Eleanor amounts to nothing special in this game.
I'd let her live. In my playthrough, Joan killed Tripp (which was a result of her actions she'll have to live with). I think that was enough of a punishment for her.
Here's a question that just dawned on me: In the event Eleanor didn't get into contact into Joan beforehand, what exactly was Javier, Gabe, and Clementine's plan if they were literally just gonna walk up to the damn stage where Joan can pick them out?
Tripp lost his entire character by flipping out at the guy he kept calling his best friend and not allowing any explanation, then claiming h… moree was better off with Joan. Again this is being generous and thinking Tripp had much of a character before that. However loyal and trusting reasonable guy who wants to avoid trouble all got thrown out the window.
This is the guy who sides with and calls javi the boss of the group within a day, but no now he flips out and acts deranged. His turn isnt quite as bad as gabes but still there we go.
Because she barely had any screentime to make the reveal truly shocking or establish that she might be capable of dirty deeds. And what little foreshadowing they did was so sparse and in scenes where there was other more noticeable shit going on that it might as well have come out of nowhere.
Still can't see it. If you want, you can compare this to Lee and clem. They only knew each other for about 4 months but clem held him more dear to herself than Christa, who she had known for about 20 or so months. So even though we only knew Eleanor for a few hours, she was shown to be very kind and trustworthy, even saving Kate from dying. So to me, it was really shocking.
Because she barely had any screentime to make the reveal truly shocking or establish that she might be capable of dirty deeds. And what litt… morele foreshadowing they did was so sparse and in scenes where there was other more noticeable shit going on that it might as well have come out of nowhere.
If someone needs a doctor and Lingard (I let him alive) is not in condition to help, then yeah. If no one is hurt or Lingard is sober, then bye bye Eleanor.
But was that the original plan? If I remember didn't Ava radio Javier and tell him there was a problem, although I think Javi said they were just going to follow through with the plan anyways.
I think the plan was going to be Javi, Gabe, and Clem were going to walk up and Javi was going to plead his case to the people and when everything started to get riled up, if Javi could talk them into Joan being the bad guy, Ava and Tripp were going to be in a strategic position to cover Javi and the kids.
Here's a question that just dawned on me: In the event Eleanor didn't get into contact into Joan beforehand, what exactly was Javier, Gabe, … moreand Clementine's plan if they were literally just gonna walk up to the damn stage where Joan can pick them out?
I definitely wouldn't trust Eleanor after that (given how we've seen things go with characters like Bonnie in the past), but if given the chance, yeah, I'd keep her alive. It's not every day that a medic lives this long.
im thinking that just like with Yvette in borderlands she will either be Arrogant and talk down to you Or apologizing and explaining what happened and what the deal entailed depending on if Conrad was shot or not. So essentially she will be the same as Yvette and her actions when you ask her about the betrayal differing depending on your choices.
I don't know. Let's see what she has to say first on why she betrayed us. If it was a good reason out of concern for Tripp and the others, than I won't kill her. If it's for her own safety and not others, I'd kill her.
If someone needs a doctor and Lingard (I let him alive) is not in condition to help, then yeah. If no one is hurt or Lingard is sober, then bye bye Eleanor.
She goes against orders several times. She tells Joan my plan to kill her straight up.
My only exposure to her has been either her drama … morewith Tripp, her flirting, or her betraying me.
She's too self interested for my version of Richmond that I plan to raise as Javi the dictator. She's a weak link.
Into the walker herd she goes.
It will certainly depend on how things go. But I would like to have a dialogue option to turn to Tripp and say: “Hey, this will be my apologies towards you for all the problems we had. You love her, but she got you on that gallows. What do you want me to do?”.
Eleanor is going down. I'm going to make sure of that in my playthrough. It sucks because I really wanted to like these characters of the new group. But one by one they're turning me against them ever since episode 3. I'm even hoping I can get Trip to die since I wanted to save Ava. Only people I like so far in this season after episode 4 are Clementine, Javier, David, Druggie Doc, Clint, and Ava.
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sooo he s not supposed to get mad that a guy who he met a couple of days ago killed one of his friends who he s known for a while from his own Group? Yeah still dont see that logic. Yes he did trust javier but that doesnt stop him from being mad at him for the murder of one of his friends.
Yes. First of all she's clearly hesitant and feels guilty about selling you out if Conrad is alive, secondly, I want to like her and hope she gets some development.
That up to her
To be fair, most of us thought that was stupid/lazy to begin with.
I love how it looks like you made up as you went along there, Shatner.
I don't know. Let's see what she has to say first on why she betrayed us. If it was a good reason out of concern for Tripp and the others, than I won't kill her. If it's for her own safety and not others, I'd kill her.
He lacks brain cells because his opinion is different from yours?
I agree with you.
I agree. Since I killed Conrad, I'm the same in her eyes as ANF without the added benefits of a luxury town doctor's suite, and an extended protection plan. There's no way for her to verify the context and reasoning I had for shooting Conrad. Heck, looking at the situation on the train, it would sound entirely made up. Conrad wants to trade Clementine for his own people, and grabs Gabe at gunpoint for negotiation when she's in the same arm's length? Who would do that?
In a lose/lose scenario, Eleanor selected what she thought was the lesser of two evils from her treatment. Tripp was obviously not on board with this betrayal when Joan's men arrived, or he wouldn't have been on the chopping block with Ava. She anticipated a trial, banishment, but certainly not the execution of Ava or Tripp right in front of her eyes. As far as she's been told, that's how they've always done things. ( Clint makes this reference of how they've done things. )
If we find her again alive, and depending on how she behaves, I'll forgive her. I don't know how people will forgive her if they spared Conrad. The scenario completely breaks down into her trading your lives for room service and fluffy beds. That's a lot tougher to swallow.
Lingard
Yes, she made a really stupid mistake but I don't think that she deserves to die.
First chance I get, I'll pop her.
I wouldnt go out of my way to kill her, but i wouldn't be a part of a group with her anymore.
She only did it because she just wanted to be safe and was determinately mad at Javi for lying about Conrad (as shown through how she responds to Joan calling her out in the crowd).
lol...Shatner is a god amongst men.
No
You should remove the spoilers from the title and put a warning. : (
I would probably spare her as it wouldn't matter in the end. After a choice like this, her role in the game would be done. Eleanor amounts to nothing special in this game.
I'd let her live. In my playthrough, Joan killed Tripp (which was a result of her actions she'll have to live with). I think that was enough of a punishment for her.
Here's a question that just dawned on me: In the event Eleanor didn't get into contact into Joan beforehand, what exactly was Javier, Gabe, and Clementine's plan if they were literally just gonna walk up to the damn stage where Joan can pick them out?
I don't understand how it is lazy writing
He was being sarcastic when he said he would be better off with Joan. He only said that to express how angry he was at javi.
Because she barely had any screentime to make the reveal truly shocking or establish that she might be capable of dirty deeds. And what little foreshadowing they did was so sparse and in scenes where there was other more noticeable shit going on that it might as well have come out of nowhere.
Still can't see it. If you want, you can compare this to Lee and clem. They only knew each other for about 4 months but clem held him more dear to herself than Christa, who she had known for about 20 or so months. So even though we only knew Eleanor for a few hours, she was shown to be very kind and trustworthy, even saving Kate from dying. So to me, it was really shocking.
If someone needs a doctor and Lingard (I let him alive) is not in condition to help, then yeah. If no one is hurt or Lingard is sober, then bye bye Eleanor.
But was that the original plan? If I remember didn't Ava radio Javier and tell him there was a problem, although I think Javi said they were just going to follow through with the plan anyways.
I think the plan was going to be Javi, Gabe, and Clem were going to walk up and Javi was going to plead his case to the people and when everything started to get riled up, if Javi could talk them into Joan being the bad guy, Ava and Tripp were going to be in a strategic position to cover Javi and the kids.
COUGH Cough carlos
im thinking that just like with Yvette in borderlands she will either be Arrogant and talk down to you Or apologizing and explaining what happened and what the deal entailed depending on if Conrad was shot or not. So essentially she will be the same as Yvette and her actions when you ask her about the betrayal differing depending on your choices.
so you re betting on Lingard always being sober?
No, he was speaking hypothetically.
She goes against orders several times. She tells Joan my plan to kill her straight up.
My only exposure to her has been either her drama with Tripp, her flirting, or her betraying me.
She's too self interested for my version of Richmond that I plan to raise as Javi the dictator. She's a weak link.
Into the walker herd she goes.
She got Ava/Tripp killed, so yes.
She also saved Kate.
that's a minus in my book
Oh what, doing her fucking job by saving someone's life ain't good enough for you there, Necron?
It will certainly depend on how things go. But I would like to have a dialogue option to turn to Tripp and say: “Hey, this will be my apologies towards you for all the problems we had. You love her, but she got you on that gallows. What do you want me to do?”.
I was makin' a funny, m8.
But her doing her job as a doctor doesn't make everything she did okay. Otherwise I would love lingard.
I wouldn't kill her, but probably abandon her somewhere. There's too much hate and death going around as it is. No need for me to add to it.
Probably, wouldnt allow her back in the group though, once you break the groups trust, I cant trust you
Eleanor is going down. I'm going to make sure of that in my playthrough. It sucks because I really wanted to like these characters of the new group. But one by one they're turning me against them ever since episode 3. I'm even hoping I can get Trip to die since I wanted to save Ava. Only people I like so far in this season after episode 4 are Clementine, Javier, David, Druggie Doc, Clint, and Ava.