You can see the bike in the background, so this is either where javi got the bike, javi left with clem to take out David or Davis tricked javi into meeting him there who he can kill javi and maybe clem without anybody noticing.
YOU COULD BE ONTO SOMETHING JAVI COULD BE WORKING AS A DOUBLE AGENT AND HE HAS TO INFILTRATE THESE PEOPLE AND ULTIMATELY COME TO THE DECISION INTO NOT FOLLOW WHAT MOTHER SAYS OR NUKE THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF RICHMOND!!! Get the reference?
YOU COULD BE ONTO SOMETHING JAVI COULD BE WORKING AS A DOUBLE AGENT AND HE HAS TO INFILTRATE THESE PEOPLE AND ULTIMATELY COME TO THE DECISION INTO NOT FOLLOW WHAT MOTHER SAYS OR NUKE THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF RICHMOND!!!
Get the reference?
This is gold. I would honestly have a lot more respect for Telltale if, in the final scene, Gabe is searching that wreckage or whatever he'… mores at there. He finds Clementine, she looks up, smiling, she says "Thanks Gabe-chan, let's be kawaii together senpai-sama-dude."
The camera pans out to Gabe's side, he looks at the camera, and it freezes the motion and zooms out as soon as he gets that shit eating grin on his face.
Roll credits
I mean hell, that's obviously the direction they're trying to take this, so screw it, unload both barrels on us and get it over with!
I know I know a double post but I just had to say it. Don't you Love the main menu music? I cannot get that amazing song out of my head it is just so amazing I haven't played that game in a while but I can remember that song forever.
I know I know a double post but I just had to say it. Don't you Love the main menu music? I cannot get that amazing song out of my head it is just so amazing I haven't played that game in a while but I can remember that song forever.
Dude I know what you're mean, it's one of the things I most fondly remember about that game.
I just hope we get some info soon about a potential sequel...
True, but it didn't seem like he actually wanted to kill anyone in episode 1. He even said that shooting greg was taking things too far.
I don't know why they made him flat-out evil in episode 2. I mean, yeah the whole place burned down, but why would he murder someone he didn't even know?
Well, obviously, the whole town would miss her, but the kids in particular would since she was apparently really good with them. Which is Hilarious in Hindsight for me.
I don't remember that. Did they show her patting a kid on the head or lifting one up or something? There was something that surprised me. That were kids in Richmond. There weren't even any shown in Prescott. They coulda done more with that. Funny how they all disappeared in ep 4...
I see what you did there.
I couldn't help it
That's because they never give her a chance to do something to show her stuff. Had enough of that shit in Season 2 and it's affecting the female cast in general.
I know, in some ways it still feels like we're only in like act 2 of an overall story. I actually thought they'd end up leaving Richmond at the end of Ep 3. Kate being sidelined like that, I said before that her being shot annoyed me anyway because Mariana being shot was dramatic enough and we didn't need that on top of it.
I also wish there was more of Ava in ep 4, damn it. Couldn't we get some action scenes with her? Instead of her just luring a guy away (wonder how she did that) and then arriving when the fight is over? I suspect she won't have much in 5 since she's determinant, so the ship has sailed.
I'm disappointed that they've done so little with the Clementine and New Frontier connection in general, especially with David, Ava, and Gabe around.
eh, you're probably right. what do you think should have been done?
it can still apply to female sidekicks, and she counts as David's.
True enough.
Woah. Are you implying what I think you're imp… morelying? Why not just say the whole town will "miss" her.
Well, obviously, the whole town would miss her, but the kids in particular would since she was apparently really good with them. Which is Hilarious in Hindsight for me.
I kid, I kid.
I see what you did there.
Yeah, Kate was a surprising one in retrospect, but I tend to forget about her during the episodes themselves until she actually appears.
That's because they never give her a chance to do something to show her stuff. Had enough of that shit in Season 2 and it's affecting the female cast in general.
Also disappointed by the lack of present Ava and Clem interaction.
I'm disappointed that they've done so little with the Clementine and New Frontier connection in general, especially with David, Ava, and Gabe around.
And let's not pretend that season 1 wasn't guilty of it. If you've sided with lilly all the time, and she's fairly friendly to you, why the hell would Carly saying to act more like Lee, and help people trigger (ha) Lilly enough to kill her?
Compare that to a negative Lilly run, being told by someone to act more like the guy who helped kill your dad. Now THAT makes sense for her snap.
Yeah, pretty much. I suppose it falls in line with his beef with Joan taking priority at that point, especially now that she's gambled on Ava's life, but it's still odd.
ah, the negatives of single character POV
I always wanted to see a flashback of the stranger stalking the group in season 1, and things from his perspective on the walkie talkie.
Well that would be another neat piece of overlap and an interesting origin for her...except she was a solo act in Georgia and, as far as we'… morere told, Wellington(which was almost certainly in Ohio) may not have been around yet, let alone as big a name as it was in the present timeline of Season 2. Hence part of why the origin I gave her in my rewrites made it clear she was from Georgia(or a surrounding state) like most of the cast to begin with.
Now, Christa and Omid potentially being there once could been a good plot point, considering they were apparently on an eloping road trip from California and therefore have the broad strokes and responsibility necessary to have been there or at least heard of it.
I'm looking at the image again, the more obvious size difference is making Michelle's death seem a lot crueller now.
I did think at one point, what the was the purpose of having her drop her gun and surrender and practically be murdered by Christa, if you can't even have Clem bring it up later. You know, discussions of morality. Was it just? An eye for an eye, and all that.
I mean Kenny's eye for an eye involved murdering Carver, but carver only disfigured him, didn't kill him or anyone he knew... well, that's not entirely true. He killed Walter, but they definitely didn't make that apparent as part of Kenny's reasoning. They stopped mentioning Walt after the initial arrival, iirc.
Maybe I would have noticed earlier if the game ran smoother on my PS3. Goddamn it. There's these subtleties you can miss unless the framerate is perfect.
okay that was unintentional
Freud would probably disagree. It's okay, I get a kick out of what you might bring up next. (you actually made me picture that scenario)
Now that I think about it, I wonder if that would be a completely good thing considering the state of some walkers.
Yeesh. Good point. You know, it never made sense how the walkers in A New Day (aside from named characters) were already skeletal looking. I mean, unless they're implying Lee was unconscious in the car wreck for months.
Oh MY god, now that you mention it, I can totally see the Larry in her face.
I thought it was pretty overt early on, to be honest. E… morespecially considering the face she makes when indignant is a dead ringer of his usual mood.
coughfetishcough
Okay, that was unintentional.
well, if it's for the sake of humanity's survival, I think I could accept that horrendous, awful, totally unpleasant task.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if that would be a completely good thing considering the state of some walkers.
Funny you should mention that because I somehow missed that the first time around and I did think it gave a little depth to her.
Ouch, well no wonder you feel the way you do. You gotta nitpick, scour the game for things to click and if it advances before you think you've finished you gotta reload that checkpoint son. Obviously you shouldn't HAVE to go crazy 100% clickclickclick on everything to try and get the full scope of a character, but that's just the way it is.
I ain't copying all that
Honestly, I figured she'd be dead after the prologue, so when they showed her in the van I thought "Well this has potential. Wonder where they'll go with this." I can't really disagree with you on any of that, only "problem" she has is lack of screentime. They tried to give Badger some justifacation by mentioning his "dead buddies" but that didn't really work out and in episode 3 he takes the record as the most despicable monstrous character in the games. I mean, 1 dimensional bad guys can work fine, but something about Badger is certainly lacking.
That's a potentially good idea though, have Badger kidnap Mariana instead, and you get the parallel with Clem also having a family member taken "captive" by the New Frontier. Funny how Badger doesn't even speak or do anything when he first appears, he just seems like another unimportant goon, they could have at least had him knock out Javi instead of Max. Or give a hint as to how psycho he was. And even though it's sick, taking a girl as his "captive" probably adds more to him than "hahaha I kill you guys"
And then there's Max. Boy, what a disappointment. He easily could have been the most interesting character this season. You think he's just another asshole, but he ties you up instead trying to kill you. And when pressed about Kate, you can see he's starting to feel guilty. I mean he seems genuinely shocked when he hears that Badger murdered a kid, and sorta gives him shit about it later, but it wasn't enough. Then he tries to murder David? That seemed out of character. They should have had Badger start the gunfight, and Max go along with it out of desperation.
I'm trying to figure out what her purpose is, too. I guess unifying what's left of the Garcia family in the wake of her death, so they're stronger than ever with their... emotional bonds? I dunno. We should probably wait until episode 5 releases to go on more big rants like this.
More stuff akin to the conversation where she talks about writing everything down so she doesn't forget
Funny you should mention tha… moret because I somehow missed that the first time around and I did think it gave a little depth to her.
Everything in the walking dead season 3 feels half-assed. It's a like a decent animated movie, but a very poor point-and-click-game, one that's supposed to make you connect and care about these characters. I see no point in singling out a character who was doomed to die in episode 1 anyway.
I think this right here sums it up. I know I was trying to upkeep a positive outlook for a while, but it occurred to me even then that I should've known I was in for a fair amount of shit when she got some facetime.
I mean, you advertise this game as being very action driven and containing tougher themes like mish-mashed families, inter-family infidelity, and revenge and--what is this Hispanic Cuteness Pr… [view original content]
yeah, I'm just wondering what her purpose was really intended to be. This was our first real child death, it should have meant something.
(don't mention Duck. He becomes a living prop after he's bitten, never speaks again, barely even moves, and is shot off-screen)
Which is especially weird considering, unlike Nick or Sarah, she's outright related to the person were playing as and the other most importa… morent characters. I seriously had this "...Oh!" moment when I eventually realized she was barely mentioned or alluded to in Thicker than Water.
And I don't even really like her.
Written? Maybe. But I strongly disagree on the design. She has a mole, a scar, a rougher face shape than many other girls, and despite being 10 her voice is pretty mature sounding. I don't see what's pandering about that. Pandering would have been making her clone of Clem from season 1. I know that would have worked with a number of people too. They could have made her an insanely generic cutesy girl, but they didn't. She's mature for her age, insightful, but has a touch of kid still in her, she gets excited for sweets.
More that she was seemingly designed and written to be shallow and pandering for the sake of making Javier look that much cooler early on and that honestly bothered me with the baggage we had going in.
Well, does she have a purpose other than to die? That sorta thing kinda has to happen close to the beginning. So you fix that by making episode 1 longer and giving more depth to mariana. Except then you'd have to... GASP.... make the rest of the season longer too.
Yeah, often with any movies I've watched. I don't flip/browse through it like I used to.
I know, that's a good bit there, in hindsight you realize she's bullshitting and that she's not a ruthless, hardened robber. She's just a scared young girl putting up a front, who shouldn't have put her finger on the trigger. She's basically Becca without a Shel.
Becca wasn't exactly the brightest bulb either, probably would have ended up the same way.
she's not noble, she's a tragic villain if anything.
Perhaps you're right. Still, do you visit TvTropes? Because I think I was keepi… moreng their levels of villainy in mind.
obviously, she never actually killed anyone before judging by her reaction but she shouldn't have picked one up if she couldn't handle the consequences.
Yeah. Obviously, she saw just sitting there, got curious, and then realized(with little fanfare) that she got lucky on that one.
given that they seemed to be setting her up as an arc villain for Clementine.
Well, it was either her or David, and they went with David. What are you gonna do? Ep 4 had the flashback where you can tell Ava off, at least..
Linking her up with Gabe as well made sense,
Ugh, ew, no way would Ava be grooming young teenagers. I think a strong, tough soldier/leader like David is more her type. Maybe even an up-and-coming tough guy like Javier.
Honestly, I wish there was an option to dump Kate's ass immediately and flirt with Ava. The closest thing is when you greet her nicely, and she asks David why he never said his brother was a gentleman. She kinda gives Javier this look...
that stat list (which was recently stated to be fake by the poster [I think] so many months later) kinda confirmed it by stating she's 19.
No way is that the case unless you she lied about her age, which probably wouldn't work in this day and age.
But even if that is fake, the wiki does estimate her to be in her 20s.
Yeah, well the wiki also says Carley, Becca and Shel are caucasian when they're clearly some kind of mix, Becca in particular kinda looks native indian to me, with maybe a dash of whiteness
theory that she's actually Conrad's estranged daughter early on that Thicker than Water ironically added even more fuel to.
Really? Well, that's not too insane until they mention she was part of David's unit.
Until or after?
But the first instance was mo… morere speculation for Above the Law, given that they seemed to be setting her up as an arc villain for Clementine. Linking her up with Gabe as well made sense, especially after the episode came out.
I honestly thought in episode 2 that she was maybe like two or three years older than Clem.
I had a similar thought and that stat list (which was recently stated to be fake by the poster [I think] so many months later) kinda confirmed it by stating she's 19. But even if that is fake, the wiki does estimate her to be in her 20s.
Incidentally, I also had a theory that she's actually Conrad's estranged daughter early on that Thicker than Water ironically added even more fuel to.
Also, looking at it again, the art style of season 1 and 2 seems more based on Tony Moore's original art than the replacement Charlie Adlard. This is very evident with characters like Glenn and even Hershel looks more like if Moore ever drew him. However, the child characters match more to Adlard's art style, with very rounded cutesy heads.
Comments
"But didn't yo urban Clementine shoot that guy's ear off?"
"Yeah, but still!"
Is this a reference to something?
Free Palestine?
"Hey, is that Kyle Crane or Javier García?"
Are you fucking kidding me? It is obviously David about to S U C C on his brother BIG cock.
That's the professional way to do things.
YOU COULD BE ONTO SOMETHING JAVI COULD BE WORKING AS A DOUBLE AGENT AND HE HAS TO INFILTRATE THESE PEOPLE AND ULTIMATELY COME TO THE DECISION INTO NOT FOLLOW WHAT MOTHER SAYS OR NUKE THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF RICHMOND!!!
Get the reference?
Get. Help.
I low key wanna bang that zombie chick from The Following DLC.
god i hate weebs
We all do.
I know I know a double post but I just had to say it. Don't you Love the main menu music? I cannot get that amazing song out of my head it is just so amazing I haven't played that game in a while but I can remember that song forever.
Dude I know what you're mean, it's one of the things I most fondly remember about that game.
I just hope we get some info soon about a potential sequel...
I sure hope you realize that was sarcasm.........
Or top 10 biggest typos.
i do, i just had to add that
Ditto!!!
Found it!
Brings back memories of the summer of 2015 and 2016 when all I did was play this game.
Fucking love this John Carpenter style of music! (and Dying Light in general, solid game)
Flimsii made a video! I didn't even notice it came out!
Plus the comment that I can strongly relate to.
"It's hard for me to believe that in 2014, I ****ing loved this series. And now, I've dropped it and don't even care about spoilers. It's surreal."
True, but it didn't seem like he actually wanted to kill anyone in episode 1. He even said that shooting greg was taking things too far.
I don't know why they made him flat-out evil in episode 2. I mean, yeah the whole place burned down, but why would he murder someone he didn't even know?
and end up saying the opposite of what I mean?
"I like your art" input into google translate: "I think your art is shit"
I don't remember that. Did they show her patting a kid on the head or lifting one up or something? There was something that surprised me. That were kids in Richmond. There weren't even any shown in Prescott. They coulda done more with that. Funny how they all disappeared in ep 4...
I couldn't help it
I know, in some ways it still feels like we're only in like act 2 of an overall story. I actually thought they'd end up leaving Richmond at the end of Ep 3. Kate being sidelined like that, I said before that her being shot annoyed me anyway because Mariana being shot was dramatic enough and we didn't need that on top of it.
I also wish there was more of Ava in ep 4, damn it. Couldn't we get some action scenes with her? Instead of her just luring a guy away (wonder how she did that) and then arriving when the fight is over? I suspect she won't have much in 5 since she's determinant, so the ship has sailed.
eh, you're probably right. what do you think should have been done?
I hate it when that happens.
And let's not pretend that season 1 wasn't guilty of it. If you've sided with lilly all the time, and she's fairly friendly to you, why the hell would Carly saying to act more like Lee, and help people trigger (ha) Lilly enough to kill her?
Compare that to a negative Lilly run, being told by someone to act more like the guy who helped kill your dad. Now THAT makes sense for her snap.
ah, the negatives of single character POV
I always wanted to see a flashback of the stranger stalking the group in season 1, and things from his perspective on the walkie talkie.
hm, yeah, I'm no good at this. Why are we even thinking so hard about a fan-work that means nothing?
nice attempt though
I'm looking at the image again, the more obvious size difference is making Michelle's death seem a lot crueller now.
I did think at one point, what the was the purpose of having her drop her gun and surrender and practically be murdered by Christa, if you can't even have Clem bring it up later. You know, discussions of morality. Was it just? An eye for an eye, and all that.
I mean Kenny's eye for an eye involved murdering Carver, but carver only disfigured him, didn't kill him or anyone he knew... well, that's not entirely true. He killed Walter, but they definitely didn't make that apparent as part of Kenny's reasoning. They stopped mentioning Walt after the initial arrival, iirc.
and you made go back up and look, you dog
bet you love Ava for that, she's got that short sexy stocky look down.
Maybe I would have noticed earlier if the game ran smoother on my PS3. Goddamn it. There's these subtleties you can miss unless the framerate is perfect.
Freud would probably disagree. It's okay, I get a kick out of what you might bring up next. (you actually made me picture that scenario)
Yeesh. Good point. You know, it never made sense how the walkers in A New Day (aside from named characters) were already skeletal looking. I mean, unless they're implying Lee was unconscious in the car wreck for months.
Ouch, well no wonder you feel the way you do. You gotta nitpick, scour the game for things to click and if it advances before you think you've finished you gotta reload that checkpoint son. Obviously you shouldn't HAVE to go crazy 100% clickclickclick on everything to try and get the full scope of a character, but that's just the way it is.
Honestly, I figured she'd be dead after the prologue, so when they showed her in the van I thought "Well this has potential. Wonder where they'll go with this." I can't really disagree with you on any of that, only "problem" she has is lack of screentime. They tried to give Badger some justifacation by mentioning his "dead buddies" but that didn't really work out and in episode 3 he takes the record as the most despicable monstrous character in the games. I mean, 1 dimensional bad guys can work fine, but something about Badger is certainly lacking.
That's a potentially good idea though, have Badger kidnap Mariana instead, and you get the parallel with Clem also having a family member taken "captive" by the New Frontier. Funny how Badger doesn't even speak or do anything when he first appears, he just seems like another unimportant goon, they could have at least had him knock out Javi instead of Max. Or give a hint as to how psycho he was. And even though it's sick, taking a girl as his "captive" probably adds more to him than "hahaha I kill you guys"
And then there's Max. Boy, what a disappointment. He easily could have been the most interesting character this season. You think he's just another asshole, but he ties you up instead trying to kill you. And when pressed about Kate, you can see he's starting to feel guilty. I mean he seems genuinely shocked when he hears that Badger murdered a kid, and sorta gives him shit about it later, but it wasn't enough. Then he tries to murder David? That seemed out of character. They should have had Badger start the gunfight, and Max go along with it out of desperation.
I'm trying to figure out what her purpose is, too. I guess unifying what's left of the Garcia family in the wake of her death, so they're stronger than ever with their... emotional bonds? I dunno. We should probably wait until episode 5 releases to go on more big rants like this.
yeah, I'm just wondering what her purpose was really intended to be. This was our first real child death, it should have meant something.
(don't mention Duck. He becomes a living prop after he's bitten, never speaks again, barely even moves, and is shot off-screen)
Written? Maybe. But I strongly disagree on the design. She has a mole, a scar, a rougher face shape than many other girls, and despite being 10 her voice is pretty mature sounding. I don't see what's pandering about that. Pandering would have been making her clone of Clem from season 1. I know that would have worked with a number of people too. They could have made her an insanely generic cutesy girl, but they didn't. She's mature for her age, insightful, but has a touch of kid still in her, she gets excited for sweets.
Well, does she have a purpose other than to die? That sorta thing kinda has to happen close to the beginning. So you fix that by making episode 1 longer and giving more depth to mariana. Except then you'd have to... GASP.... make the rest of the season longer too.
When you realise you won't be able to play the finale at its release.
Yeah, often with any movies I've watched. I don't flip/browse through it like I used to.
I know, that's a good bit there, in hindsight you realize she's bullshitting and that she's not a ruthless, hardened robber. She's just a scared young girl putting up a front, who shouldn't have put her finger on the trigger. She's basically Becca without a Shel.
Becca wasn't exactly the brightest bulb either, probably would have ended up the same way.
Until, duh.
Well, it was either her or David, and they went with David. What are you gonna do? Ep 4 had the flashback where you can tell Ava off, at least..
Ugh, ew, no way would Ava be grooming young teenagers. I think a strong, tough soldier/leader like David is more her type. Maybe even an up-and-coming tough guy like Javier.
Honestly, I wish there was an option to dump Kate's ass immediately and flirt with Ava. The closest thing is when you greet her nicely, and she asks David why he never said his brother was a gentleman. She kinda gives Javier this look...
No way is that the case unless you she lied about her age, which probably wouldn't work in this day and age.
Yeah, well the wiki also says Carley, Becca and Shel are caucasian when they're clearly some kind of mix, Becca in particular kinda looks native indian to me, with maybe a dash of whiteness
okay, do tell.
Also, looking at it again, the art style of season 1 and 2 seems more based on Tony Moore's original art than the replacement Charlie Adlard. This is very evident with characters like Glenn and even Hershel looks more like if Moore ever drew him. However, the child characters match more to Adlard's art style, with very rounded cutesy heads.