What should happen to the survivors of A New Frontier?
In your opinion, which characters should survive A New Frontier (based on your playthrough) and what should happen to them at the end of the game and in the events afterwards?
In my playthrough, Joan is still alive, so she needs to die.
David is probably pretty pissed at me for trying to go with Clint's plan instead of shooting Joan, but I've been on his side for pretty much everything else, including rejecting Kate and trying to save Ava. So hopefully he won't want to kill me too badly, but it's also obvious now that he's dangerous and unstable, so while I don't necessarily want him to die, I don't exactly want him around anymore either. If it came down to it (and if I was given the option), I might have to kill him since he could potentially endanger the rest of the group, but hopefully we can just leave him without killing him.
Tripp is still alive in my playthrough, but he hates me. Gabe told him I killed Conrad and then I tried to save Ava over him, so I'm pretty sure he despises me. I think he's a good guy so I don't want him to die, but I also think we should probably go our separate ways after we escape from Richmond to avoid any further tension.
Eleanor better have a good fucking reason for doing what she did. I get that she hates me for killing Conrad, but betraying me like that is still a shitty thing to do, not to mention she also betrayed Ava and Tripp in the process. So fuck her. If it gives me the option to kill her, I would probably have to consider the specific circumstances, but it's a possibility. Otherwise, she'd have to leave my group too. Maybe with Tripp if he forgives her, but either way she's not staying with me anymore.
I hate Gabe. I don't necessarily think he deserves to die, but holy shit, he's terrible. If David and I go separate ways, maybe Gabe can just stay with him so I don't have to worry about his spoiled ass anymore. Otherwise, he better grow the fuck up real quick if he expects me to keep him around. Javier as a character may care about Gabe, but I as the player don't have that connection and I'm not against leaving him behind if he keeps being a little shit.
Let's assume for a moment that Kate survived the crash. As I said before, I rejected her romantic advances. Part of this was because I didn't want to betray David like that, but the bigger reason was that I just never liked Kate that much. She's fine; I don't dislike her or wish her ill or anything. I just didn't want anything romantic with her either. If she's still alive, she's welcome to stay with me as long as she's fine leaving Gabe with David. But she may still be pissed at me for rejecting her. Maybe if David's dead, she can take Gabe and leave. I don't want Gabe.
Max is still alive in my playthrough. I don't really know how I feel about him. On one hand, I don't think he's a particularly bad guy, he was just being manipulated by Joan for the most part. That being said, I don't think I can really trust him either. So again, I don't think he deserves to die, but I don't really want him in my group either.
I wish Jesus could stay with me in my group, but I believe that contradicts the canon of the comics, so that's not gonna happen.
Then there's Clementine. Like most of you, I played Seasons One and Two before this, so I will always want her in my group, even if she wasn't written as well as I would have liked this season.
Honestly, I don't really care about AJ since he's really more of a plot device than a character anyway, but it would be cruel to both him and Clem to have him die, so I hope we find him and he can stay with us too, even though I hate babies and think they're terrible to have to take care of in a zombie apocalypse.
So I guess in my ideal ending it's just Javier, Clem and AJ. And maybe Kate, if she's still alive. And Jesus, but that's not happening.
What happens to each character in your ideal endings?
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Everyone should die. Season 4 shouldn't happen either as these writers can't write a character properly let alone a plot. If there's a Season 4 expect more new bland characters and somehow worse writing.
I think one of many lessons that should be (but probably won't be) learned from this season is that fewer writers tends to be better. I'm not advocating for anyone losing their jobs, but having a ton of people trying to write one thing can be very difficult. A lot of compromises are made and ultimately no one ends up happy. Notice how nearly all the episodes in Seasons One and Two had one or two writers each, whereas A New Frontier has had as many as eight writers for one episode. It's too much. If seven writers agree but one writer doesn't, it can hold up everything and end up wrecking a perfectly good story that could have flourished if only two or three people were working on it with each trying to better the story as opposed to the inevitable conflict that arises from having so many writers work on one thing.
But that's just my opinion.
Sooo if you had a baby son in a ZA you would abandon it?
I think if Conrad is alive he should survive and go separate ways with either Eleanor or Tripp
Clemetine's "Family"
Clementine: Leave to her next story.
AJ: Be [determinately?] found by Clementine and leave with her.
García Family
Javier: Leave Richmond with whatever family he wants to.
David: Either Stay in Richmond or die if it comes to that.
Gabe: Stay with either Javier or David, whichever he prefers.
Kate: Hopefully will able to help in the fight and leave with Javier if she can travel.
Mariana: Dead.
Hector: Dead.
Mrs. García: Dead.
Rafael: Dead.
The New Frontier
Fern: Help David or die.
Bob: Either help David or die.
Joan: Face trial for her crimes if Javier/David didn't/doesn't kill her.
Clint: Stay in Richmond if David didn't/doesn't kill him.
Ava: Hoped she's be able to stay with David, but might not live.
Paul: Stay in Richmond if not dead.
Lonnie: Die.
Max: Hopefully help out in the battle and stay in Richmond if he survives.
Rufus: Die.
Badger: Dead.
Prescott
Eleanor: Help out in the battle and stay in Richmond if she prefers.
Tripp: Die.
Conrad: Go his own way.
Francine: Dead
Eli: Dead
Hilltop Colony
Paul: Get lost in a comic book.
Gabe has the potential of becoming a pretty strong survivor IMO, but he really needs to stop acting like a spoiled brat.
Clementine should survive. She's the protagonist of TellTale's TWD as far as I'm concerned.
Would love for David and my Javier to run Richmond together, but I'm expecting Javier to die by the end of the season.
I don't care much about the others. Would have cared about Ava, but she's dead in my game, so :P
I dunno if they will have Javier stay in Richmond, but I feel like Clementine should leave this shitshow behind and be the protagonist next season, hopefully she would take Javier and AJ with her, I think Javier is a much more interesting character as a secondary character, and frankly he should have been a secondary character this season, with the player being a third party (would have liked Clem, but could also have been someone else), seeing the family drama from another perspective would have been much more interesting, I am not very into this season, because half the cast, and all the main characters knew Javier way before the player did, which totally ruins the relationbuilding that they had nailed so well in season 1
Clementines character has also been inconsistent as fuck this season, and has not only broken character compared to previous seasons in some cases (although mostly she is pretty much how I would expect her to evolve based on my playthrough, but not for everyone), but she has been so out of character even for the character they established this season
Example: Clementine trusts noone after all that has happened to her, including losing AJ, when she finally opens up to Javier and tells him her deepest secret (that she was New Frontier), and Javier then (determinantly) betrays her, she forgets about it in 2 seconds flat, thats extremely lazy and terrible writing, Clementine should be devastated, she finally opened up to someone, only to be betrayed yet again, Clementine should hate Javiers guts for the entire season, but instead the saving Conrad choice is the superior choice in every possible way, and as a result we have all the Conrad-worshippers berate everyone who killed him, because the only reason to kill him (staying on Clementines good side) is irrelevant due to lazy/bad writing
I would probably abstain from sex during a zombie apocalypse to avoid that issue.
No you are correct...this season seems to have been written by a committee of people who kept getting over ruled by management...there is no cohesion to the story...things are in there because someone said....hey people like ball bat murder. Oh and they all remember people saying that Clementine was no fun to play in S2.
No I mean before the zombie apocalypse and your baby was already born
TT is basically spamming with their "family theme" all over the social media and reminding us constantly that our choices matter, we swear, just look at Conrad. If they keep their promise, we might gonna end in the similar situation as we did in S2, and I mean multiple endings, but this time they will differ a little more and hopefully will have more impact than the previous one.
Telltale insisted on making a whole new game and introducing a new protagonist, so if they got rid of all the freshly introduced characters only to leave Clementine alone (again) it would make no sense and would be nothing more than a spit in fans' faces. Conrad character development was superb yet the other people lacked theirs, which shows TT can't handle diversity and if something's going to be branched out, it'll very likely do more harm than good.
I'd say fingers crossed for all NF characters to survive the finale, but if they are going to die in a flashback one season later they are fairly better off gone.
im thinking if telltale has Conrad survive a new frontier they re gonna have a replacement survivor that gets saved by the group in season 4 but if Conrad s alive he s wounded and the group takes him back to Richmond/Wherever they end up going in this season Which makes them miss the replacement who s probably dead
Season 2 was barely any fun. Only good season was the first one. The following 2 get worse and worse.
Killed off Omid and Christa way too quickly. New characters were bland,annoying or just reboots of other characters. They were annoying and didn't have a proper arch. Season 3 they somehow toppled that and made the characters even more bland.
I'm not planning on having any kids, but hypothetically, if I had a baby and then a zombie outbreak occurred, then no, I would not abandon it. But that doesn't change the fact that it would be hell trying to take care of it during a zombie apocalypse. Trying to find food and other supplies just for myself and other competent members of whatever group I'm in would be hard enough, but trying to find baby food and other baby supplies on top of that just makes it all the more difficult. Not to mention that babies have absolutely zero self-defense capabilities, which most survivors would have to some degree or another. The worst part, however, is babies' penchants to cry all the time whenever they want anything, which, in a normal life, is annoying and an inconvenience, but in a zombie apocalypse, now you got a liability that's effectively calling all nearby zombies anytime it's hungry or needs to be changed or just wants to be picked up.
I agree. But unfortunately because of Javi's and Kate's protection, he doesn't have a chance to learn how to survive and protect himself. But I guess it was for the best that he retained his childhood, so he could help Clem get her childhood back by being her friend.
Crawford.