He was ok and served his purpose telltale made him for. I'd like to see him in Clementines story as a NPC main character in the Luke/Kenny role that actually lives. Telltale has a unique opportunity to really play with the character in Clementines story. My only concern is he will eventually end up like Luke,Kenny,Jane and Lee.
With that said for the sake of preserving Javiers character i think it's best if we end his story in Richmond.
Javier was a bit flat when it came to personality. I still put him after Lee and Clem for player characters. Javi just seemed to have little depth to him aside from cuckolding his brother's wife. We only know he's a gambling "bisexual" baseball player and open to family betrayal if it's for love. Half of New Frontier was essentially the same love triangle Rick, Shane and Lori had.. except from Shane's perspective, not Rick's.
Javier was a bit flat when it came to personality. I still put him after Lee and Clem for player characters. Javi just seemed to have little… more depth to him aside from cuckolding his brother's wife. We only know he's a gambling "bisexual" baseball player and open to family betrayal if it's for love. Half of New Frontier was essentially the same love triangle Rick, Shane and Lori had.. except from Shane's perspective, not Rick's.
I like him. He's an okay guy. He's not Lee, but that's fine. I didn't have any expectations for him when I started off as a new character. He was a guy that, like many others, was willing to anything to protect his family and keep them all safe while he was also struggling with his relationship with his brother.
I remember back when the first season of TWDG was in progress, they were gonna have Lee and Clem have a brother/sister type relationship before they changed it to a father/daughter relationship, which has worked out very well.
Now, in my perspective, the relationship with Javi and Clem was like a big brother/little sister type of relationship.
imply that Shane is a really great character or something along those lines.
Fans actually loved him so much he won a poll that determined "The Best Walking Dead Villain"
He beat both Negan and the Governor...
I love Javier and want to see how our choices in season 3 affect his choices/personality in season 4.
I really want him to be Clem's side… more character. But also I know clem suffers from "everyone within 3 feet of me dies" syndrome. So I hope whatever happens, he can last til the end.
Well, I would expect Clem to head back to Richmond at some point. Even at the end of the season/DLC, it would make sense to bring AJ back to a stable environment where they have most (if not all) the supplies to take care of an infant.
Well, I would expect Clem to head back to Richmond at some point. Even at the end of the season/DLC, it would make sense to bring AJ back to a stable environment where they have most (if not all) the supplies to take care of an infant.
It specifically said "Clementine's story will continue" and all those determinant characters will be too much for Telltale. If he does come back, they'll be killed in a cheap flashback at the start OR Javier will somehow be separated from his family. I still don't expect him to return (and I hope he's not playable if he returns).
It specifically said "Clementine's story will continue" and all those determinant characters will be too much for Telltale. If he does come … moreback, they'll be killed in a cheap flashback at the start OR Javier will somehow be separated from his family. I still don't expect him to return (and I hope he's not playable if he returns).
That's probably going to be the same for all of the Determinant characters. Depending on who you got, they will most likely die early on.(Basically what happened with Kenny and Jane) Maybe if we're lucky and they will pull a Conrad and some how survive the entire season.
They can't kill Javi yet, he need to be with Jesus first.
Like, for example: Gabe is determinant.
We all know if he returns, he's getting axed in the first 10 minutes, and I really don't want TT to pull that shit with Javier.
The Shane from the TV show was great and Rick's first nemesis this is true. He had issues but was portrayed well and I wish Shane had gotten to stick around like Carol. Shane was a whole dimension more interesting than Carol and don't know why folks love Carol so much but Shane could of left and came back. Maybe be waiting for Rick at Alexandria as a constable before the saviours showed up. Would of made for a pleasantly awkward surprise.
Like, for example: Gabe is determinant.
We all know if he returns, he's getting axed in the first 10 minutes, and I really don't want TT to pull that shit with Javier.
"family betrayal"? Some people here clearly have a sick definition of loyalty.
If your "brother" is a fuqing maniac and murders people in cold-blood, there is not special "family"-treatment. He gets the same treatment as anyone else who commits the same crimes.
Javier was a bit flat when it came to personality. I still put him after Lee and Clem for player characters. Javi just seemed to have little… more depth to him aside from cuckolding his brother's wife. We only know he's a gambling "bisexual" baseball player and open to family betrayal if it's for love. Half of New Frontier was essentially the same love triangle Rick, Shane and Lori had.. except from Shane's perspective, not Rick's.
Betrayal (depending on choices) as in openly admitting to, or going along with being in some sort of relationship affair with his brother's wife even after having discovered David to be alive and well. But Kate and Javier shared equivalent weight in that responsibility to David.
"family betrayal"? Some people here clearly have a sick definition of loyalty.
If your "brother" is a fuqing maniac and murders people in c… moreold-blood, there is not special "family"-treatment. He gets the same treatment as anyone else who commits the same crimes.
Yup, sick definition.
Javi and Kate didn't need David's "knowledge, consent and approval". That guy treated both like trash and wanted to leave his family anyway. He didn't even try to search for them when the world turned to shit. David can go to hell and is the last person who needs to give "approval". Javi and Kate are adult people, they can do whatever they want.
Betrayal (depending on choices) as in openly admitting to, or going along with being in some sort of relationship affair with his brother's … morewife even after having discovered David to be alive and well. But Kate and Javier shared equivalent weight in that responsibility to David.
It specifically said "Clementine's story will continue" and all those determinant characters will be too much for Telltale. If he does come … moreback, they'll be killed in a cheap flashback at the start OR Javier will somehow be separated from his family. I still don't expect him to return (and I hope he's not playable if he returns).
I thought David said he did go back if I heard correctly during episode 3.
And they may be adults but that doesn't give them the right to go behind the man's back like that. Kate was still David's wife and Javi was his brother. Of course there are no more divorce courts but Kate had plenty times to confess that she had feelings for Javier over years of David's absence like at Dr.Lingard's clinic room. I know alot of treachery was going on.. but they still could of found a moment of brief peace to discuss it like three adults. Officially breaking up with David instead of him thinking all is still well about getting reunited with his wife.
For Javier I felt it would of made more sense (for his brother's sake in avoiding conflict) to try and beat Tripp to getting with Elenore or since he's supposedly bi now try and talk to Jesus. And I don't mean through prayer.
Yup, sick definition.
Javi and Kate didn't need David's "knowledge, consent and approval". That guy treated both like trash and wanted to l… moreeave his family anyway. He didn't even try to search for them when the world turned to shit. David can go to hell and is the last person who needs to give "approval". Javi and Kate are adult people, they can do whatever they want.
Nope. Javi asks David if he even tried to get back home, which he denies and tries to justify with something like "mimimi zombies and death everywhere, I had no reason to believe anyone of you made it".
And about "telling the truth".
Imagine to be in Javi and Kate's situation. David was a hot-headed ex-military who constantly bullied Javi in the past, verbally abused Kate to a point where she was afraid of breaking some drinking glass. David, a man who was ready to leave all of them for the military before the outbreak even started. Then they wait 3 months for David to return. But nope, nothing.
4 years later, Mariana is brutally killed in cold-blood and also Kate gets shot by a group that calls itself the "New Frontier". Prescott is overrun and completely destroyed as well. They arrive at Richmond and see that "the boss" (as Max calls him) is no other than David.
Don't you think there are hundreds of more important things than telling your hot-headed ex-military brother that his former Wife and you have fallen in love?
I thought David said he did go back if I heard correctly during episode 3.
And they may be adults but that doesn't give them the right to… more go behind the man's back like that. Kate was still David's wife and Javi was his brother. Of course there are no more divorce courts but Kate had plenty times to confess that she had feelings for Javier over years of David's absence like at Dr.Lingard's clinic room. I know alot of treachery was going on.. but they still could of found a moment of brief peace to discuss it like three adults. Officially breaking up with David instead of him thinking all is still well about getting reunited with his wife.
For Javier I felt it would of made more sense (for his brother's sake in avoiding conflict) to try and beat Tripp to getting with Elenore or since he's supposedly bi now try and talk to Jesus. And I don't mean through prayer.
He was alright. The way I played him he was very loyal to his brother, did as he was told and really played the martyr, therefore he was a bit of a patsy in my game. I really enjoyed his scenes with David though.
I actually liked Javier, in his defense, his character suffers from development and characteristics that are based on a player's choice much like Clementine and Lee.
I dislike him as a pc. He's too much of a nice guy and he's someone who I can't really relate with. Basically, he is your typical "good guy" main character. This is boring.
I'm sure David thought it was pretty important information. Also David's attitude still doesn't make it right for them to nearly cheat behind his back. There were quiet moments before the chaos when they could of mentioned it to David. Kate sure picked the worst possible time so just about anytime before would of sufficed. Kate i know for sure even said herself that they'd have to talk with David about it when they stole the armoured car. So she knew what was right atleast.
And I've never heard any evidence of verbal abuse. It really just looked like Kate didn't want to hear David's mouth about his cup. Much like kids don't want their mother or father to wail on them for breaking a TV set, window or glass vase. If Kate was abused that badly she would not have talked so boldly to David most times. Even with Javi there because he's not going to always be around and even if he is he likely would always loose a fight against his military trained and more aggressively pushy brother.
Nope. Javi asks David if he even tried to get back home, which he denies and tries to justify with something like "mimimi zombies and death … moreeverywhere, I had no reason to believe anyone of you made it".
And about "telling the truth".
Imagine to be in Javi and Kate's situation. David was a hot-headed ex-military who constantly bullied Javi in the past, verbally abused Kate to a point where she was afraid of breaking some drinking glass. David, a man who was ready to leave all of them for the military before the outbreak even started. Then they wait 3 months for David to return. But nope, nothing.
4 years later, Mariana is brutally killed in cold-blood and also Kate gets shot by a group that calls itself the "New Frontier". Prescott is overrun and completely destroyed as well. They arrive at Richmond and see that "the boss" (as Max calls him) is no other than David.
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I hate that he overshadowed Clem so much. Otherwise he's just boring but not an awful character. If anything Javier ought to have been the guy with the 5 min flashbacks. As he and his family wasn't that interesting anyhow.
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He was ok and served his purpose telltale made him for. I'd like to see him in Clementines story as a NPC main character in the Luke/Kenny role that actually lives. Telltale has a unique opportunity to really play with the character in Clementines story. My only concern is he will eventually end up like Luke,Kenny,Jane and Lee.
With that said for the sake of preserving Javiers character i think it's best if we end his story in Richmond.
Javier was a bit flat when it came to personality. I still put him after Lee and Clem for player characters. Javi just seemed to have little depth to him aside from cuckolding his brother's wife. We only know he's a gambling "bisexual" baseball player and open to family betrayal if it's for love. Half of New Frontier was essentially the same love triangle Rick, Shane and Lori had.. except from Shane's perspective, not Rick's.
I thought I saw someone that said people loved Shane?
This picture summarizes how I feel about Javier. He's as bland as white bread. He just comes off as standard main character 101
I don't like him for honesty I hate him.
Yeah I'm.. not quite understanding your question.
You saw someone and they told you people loved Shane?
I meant to say I've seen people in this community imply that Shane is a really great character or something along those lines.
Fans actually loved him so much he won a poll that determined "The Best Walking Dead Villain"
He beat both Negan and the Governor...
I like him. He's an okay guy. He's not Lee, but that's fine. I didn't have any expectations for him when I started off as a new character. He was a guy that, like many others, was willing to anything to protect his family and keep them all safe while he was also struggling with his relationship with his brother.
I remember back when the first season of TWDG was in progress, they were gonna have Lee and Clem have a brother/sister type relationship before they changed it to a father/daughter relationship, which has worked out very well.
Now, in my perspective, the relationship with Javi and Clem was like a big brother/little sister type of relationship.
I loved the way he said. "Oh my... FUCK THAT. Fuck you. Helicopter."
Same here!
I
him. Nuff said. 
Huh. Still haven't gotten the chance to watch the show [from the beginning], so I'll just assume it's cause he's more "human" or normal or something.
His story is finished. He won't come back.
Hate him.
I bet 50 cents we'll see him again at some point in the future
one of my fav. character in ANF
Well, I would expect Clem to head back to Richmond at some point. Even at the end of the season/DLC, it would make sense to bring AJ back to a stable environment where they have most (if not all) the supplies to take care of an infant.
See, my general concern and the only reason I wouldn't want him to come back is, I'm scared TT might kill him off for shock value or some BS.
It specifically said "Clementine's story will continue" and all those determinant characters will be too much for Telltale. If he does come back, they'll be killed in a cheap flashback at the start OR Javier will somehow be separated from his family. I still don't expect him to return (and I hope he's not playable if he returns).
This is one of the reasons I don't want him to return. He's one of my faves and I'm scared TT will kill him off for shock value.
I liked David better be he was okay too.
Honestly, I wouldn't put it past TT to pull that shit.
Like, for example: Gabe is determinant.
We all know if he returns, he's getting axed in the first 10 minutes, and I really don't want TT to pull that shit with Javier.
That's probably going to be the same for all of the Determinant characters. Depending on who you got, they will most likely die early on.(Basically what happened with Kenny and Jane) Maybe if we're lucky and they will pull a Conrad and some how survive the entire season.
They can't kill Javi yet, he need to be with Jesus first.
The Shane from the TV show was great and Rick's first nemesis this is true. He had issues but was portrayed well and I wish Shane had gotten to stick around like Carol. Shane was a whole dimension more interesting than Carol and don't know why folks love Carol so much but Shane could of left and came back. Maybe be waiting for Rick at Alexandria as a constable before the saviours showed up. Would of made for a pleasantly awkward surprise.
And that's bullshit. Goddamn shipping-themed copout.
"family betrayal"? Some people here clearly have a sick definition of loyalty.
If your "brother" is a fuqing maniac and murders people in cold-blood, there is not special "family"-treatment. He gets the same treatment as anyone else who commits the same crimes.
Betrayal (depending on choices) as in openly admitting to, or going along with being in some sort of relationship affair with his brother's wife even after having discovered David to be alive and well. But Kate and Javier shared equivalent weight in that responsibility to David.
Yup, sick definition.
Javi and Kate didn't need David's "knowledge, consent and approval". That guy treated both like trash and wanted to leave his family anyway. He didn't even try to search for them when the world turned to shit. David can go to hell and is the last person who needs to give "approval". Javi and Kate are adult people, they can do whatever they want.
i hope he's not playable too, but i think they'll go with separate family thing. nobody has a happy ending in twd.
I thought David said he did go back if I heard correctly during episode 3.
And they may be adults but that doesn't give them the right to go behind the man's back like that. Kate was still David's wife and Javi was his brother. Of course there are no more divorce courts but Kate had plenty times to confess that she had feelings for Javier over years of David's absence like at Dr.Lingard's clinic room. I know alot of treachery was going on.. but they still could of found a moment of brief peace to discuss it like three adults. Officially breaking up with David instead of him thinking all is still well about getting reunited with his wife.
For Javier I felt it would of made more sense (for his brother's sake in avoiding conflict) to try and beat Tripp to getting with Elenore or since he's supposedly bi now try and talk to Jesus. And I don't mean through prayer.
Nope. Javi asks David if he even tried to get back home, which he denies and tries to justify with something like "mimimi zombies and death everywhere, I had no reason to believe anyone of you made it".
And about "telling the truth".
Imagine to be in Javi and Kate's situation. David was a hot-headed ex-military who constantly bullied Javi in the past, verbally abused Kate to a point where she was afraid of breaking some drinking glass. David, a man who was ready to leave all of them for the military before the outbreak even started. Then they wait 3 months for David to return. But nope, nothing.
4 years later, Mariana is brutally killed in cold-blood and also Kate gets shot by a group that calls itself the "New Frontier". Prescott is overrun and completely destroyed as well. They arrive at Richmond and see that "the boss" (as Max calls him) is no other than David.
Don't you think there are hundreds of more important things than telling your hot-headed ex-military brother that his former Wife and you have fallen in love?
He was alright. The way I played him he was very loyal to his brother, did as he was told and really played the martyr, therefore he was a bit of a patsy in my game. I really enjoyed his scenes with David though.
I thought he was a solid character.
I actually liked Javier, in his defense, his character suffers from development and characteristics that are based on a player's choice much like Clementine and Lee.
I dislike him as a pc. He's too much of a nice guy and he's someone who I can't really relate with. Basically, he is your typical "good guy" main character. This is boring.
I'm sure David thought it was pretty important information. Also David's attitude still doesn't make it right for them to nearly cheat behind his back. There were quiet moments before the chaos when they could of mentioned it to David. Kate sure picked the worst possible time so just about anytime before would of sufficed. Kate i know for sure even said herself that they'd have to talk with David about it when they stole the armoured car. So she knew what was right atleast.
And I've never heard any evidence of verbal abuse. It really just looked like Kate didn't want to hear David's mouth about his cup. Much like kids don't want their mother or father to wail on them for breaking a TV set, window or glass vase. If Kate was abused that badly she would not have talked so boldly to David most times. Even with Javi there because he's not going to always be around and even if he is he likely would always loose a fight against his military trained and more aggressively pushy brother.
I hate that he overshadowed Clem so much. Otherwise he's just boring but not an awful character. If anything Javier ought to have been the guy with the 5 min flashbacks. As he and his family wasn't that interesting anyhow.
Well I agree, but TT did say we'd only be "checking in" on her.