that s exactly what im saying that was one of my problems with a new frontier since they could have done it but chose to get Lazy about it and just go with Javier only with 5 minutes of Clem per episode which is why i think a 50/50 split would work giving everyone their slice of Clementine and more survival based Plot while having her look for AJ and finding a new group while at the same time having Javier Leading Richmond , Negotiating with other big groups , having people scout for other people and several other things that cant be done with Just Clem and an overraching plot focusing on a single group and the group that opposes them .
telltale managed to have 5 different playable characters in different areas so what s the big deal with 2 ?
Because Telltale promise… mored the fans Clem and Javi will have 50/50 playtime when New Frontier was announced and in development. Fans are just furious that it didn't happen and simply our trust with them is declining.
My memory isn't the clearest about this stuff but I thought they said we will get to play as them both and people assumed it would be 50-50 (I admit I also thought it would be 50-50) season 4 needs to be what season 3 was supposed to be. But to season 1 standards. Plz telltale y u no listen ;_; I enjoyed season 3 but I admit it wasn't perfect
telltale managed to have 5 different playable characters in different areas so what s the big deal with 2 ?
Because Telltale promise… mored the fans Clem and Javi will have 50/50 playtime when New Frontier was announced and in development. Fans are just furious that it didn't happen and simply our trust with them is declining.
having Javier Leading Richmond , Negotiating with other big groups , having people scout for other people and several other things that cant be done with
Actually, I think that's being saved as DLC later this season. Clem's story is too big to be left as DLC.
Her story being finished as DLC in a crappy season will be a slap to the face to fans and Telltale's own company.
that s exactly what im saying that was one of my problems with a new frontier since they could have done it but chose to get Lazy about it a… morend just go with Javier only with 5 minutes of Clem per episode which is why i think a 50/50 split would work giving everyone their slice of Clementine and more survival based Plot while having her look for AJ and finding a new group while at the same time having Javier Leading Richmond , Negotiating with other big groups , having people scout for other people and several other things that cant be done with Just Clem and an overraching plot focusing on a single group and the group that opposes them .
I'm either down for that or for a scene that involves clem getting cornered by a group of walkers. Then satisfying sounding baseball bat outta nowhere. A few doinks later and saved. And those people we saw in the concept art for a new frontier (mainly in episode 4 and 5) should accompany javier (or whoever survived season 3) so we wouldn't have to deal with some random people who have nothing to do with Richmond. Less mouths to feed when come returns and all that will be super sad if my Conrad dies though :c
that s exactly what im saying that was one of my problems with a new frontier since they could have done it but chose to get Lazy about it a… morend just go with Javier only with 5 minutes of Clem per episode which is why i think a 50/50 split would work giving everyone their slice of Clementine and more survival based Plot while having her look for AJ and finding a new group while at the same time having Javier Leading Richmond , Negotiating with other big groups , having people scout for other people and several other things that cant be done with Just Clem and an overraching plot focusing on a single group and the group that opposes them .
Sophia always had been very protected with a community unlike Clementine.
The ANF Clem is the most unrealistic of all.
Walking alone like a fancy super kid unharmed with such annoying attitude.
Very Disney character.
If they kill off Clem soon I won't even care for this reason.
Only Season one felt like a real Walking Dead game.
The many stories even unscreen felt like the real walking dead universe.
A real young girl walking alone in this dark world would have encountered much more horror like physical and sexual abuse like the teen Lydi… morea in the comics
Clementine wasn't alone for the majority of S2, the same with NF if you stayed in Wellington, with Kenny, or with Jane.
Not EVERY young girl gets raped in the apocalypse...you do know that, right? Sophia in the comics wasn't raped and she's the same age as Clem, along with Edith from the TV show. Lydia was a part of a group that condoned rape, but she didn't speak up about it because she thought it was normal.
Walking alone like a fancy super kid unharmed with such annoying attitude.
She avoided people at all costs, as said in Ep.1 and she got her finger cut off, so I wouldn't say she was unharmed. She only had an attitude after AJ was taken away from her, can you really blame her for that? She's got nothing left to live for, that changes a person. Look at Kenny after his family and Sarita died, Nick after Pete died, Lily after Larry died, and Sarah after Carlos died.
Her attitude changes after the first half of New Frontier anyway. For starters, she was on her period before Ep.4 so that can be part of the reasoning why she had said attitude, and she finds out AJ is alive.
Sophia always had been very protected with a community unlike Clementine.
The ANF Clem is the most unrealistic of all.
Walking alone like… more a fancy super kid unharmed with such annoying attitude.
Very Disney character.
If they kill off Clem soon I won't even care for this reason.
Only Season one felt like a real Walking Dead game.
The many stories even unscreen felt like the real walking dead universe.
I'd personally love to play as Javi again, but I don't know how they'd fit it into s4 if it's focused on Clementine (like how the Clem flashbacks seemed a little out of place in anf). Javi was such a fun character though, I'm gonna miss him
I would've liked for javi Gar(seeya) to not let clem leave anf alone without fucking anything and instead for all the help she did for him he repay her back by helping her find AJ and that would've been ur 10% javi juice
at least 50% beacause he's cool and clem too so it would be better to play both characters when in different situation for example:''If Javi got caught somewhere trapped then you can control Clem to save Javi'' and inverse something like that
I was thinking of clementine getting trapped by a group of walkers, then you swap control over to javier where all you can see is his bat facing downwards then you get to take them all out, then you say hi and all that, then a new scene where you swap over to clem. Then there should be action scenes where you swap characters after each kill, similar to a few borderlands moments.
at least 50% beacause he's cool and clem too so it would be better to play both characters when in different situation for example:''If Javi got caught somewhere trapped then you can control Clem to save Javi'' and inverse something like that
Walking alone like a fancy super kid unharmed with such annoying attitude.
She avoided people at all costs, as said in Ep.1 and she … moregot her finger cut off, so I wouldn't say she was unharmed. She only had an attitude after AJ was taken away from her, can you really blame her for that? She's got nothing left to live for, that changes a person. Look at Kenny after his family and Sarita died, Nick after Pete died, Lily after Larry died, and Sarah after Carlos died.
Her attitude changes after the first half of New Frontier anyway. For starters, she was on her period before Ep.4 so that can be part of the reasoning why she had said attitude, and she finds out AJ is alive.
I might be helping you fix a problem here but are you aware that when you message people it gets sent multiple times so I shit myself getting ready for a crap ton of comments but they're all the same 1?
He had 6 hours screen time so I wouldn't call it "over" clementine has all fuck off hours of screen time and people said her story was over in season 2, but was it? Nope.
I was thinking of clementine getting trapped by a group of walkers, then you swap control over to javier where all you can see is his bat fa… morecing downwards then you get to take them all out, then you say hi and all that, then a new scene where you swap over to clem. Then there should be action scenes where you swap characters after each kill, similar to a few borderlands moments.
He had 6 hours screen time so I wouldn't call it "over" clementine has all fuck off hours of screen time and people said her story was over in season 2, but was it? Nope.
He was way more interesting than Clementine in Season 2 and ANF.
I only liked the Clem from Season 1. She was way more realistic.
Not t… morehis fancy disney Clem from Season 2 and ANF.
Very unrealistic teen girl character in a real walking dead universe.
A real young girl walking alone in this dark world would have encountered much more horror like physical and sexual abuse like the teen Lydia in the comics and even an adult like Michonne.
But I guess Telltale can't do this with a large public of kids playing this game.
I just received this abusive private message from a certain person just because I expressed myself in this thread for enjoying playing Javi.… more
I don't want any secrecies in my private box:
"zucktheduck sent you a message
zucktheduck
can you shut the fuck up about your stupid fucking boner you have over Javier? literally no one cares about what you think so just shut the fuck up. Javier is over, done, forever."
The 50/50 idea between Javier and Clementine is not bad, the problem is Teltalle's apparent laziness in writing a coherent story. ANF showed up too much running, like it was a Michael Bay movie.
When people say that, it means they hate them for no reason. It is your opinion about a family and there is nothing to be embarrassed about. But you trying to hide it makes me come up with my own conclusion of why you hate them... and what the hell is with the attitude? I asked a question, if you don't feel comfortable saying just say so.
When people say that, it means they hate them for no reason. It is your opinion about a family and there is nothing to be embarrassed about… more. But you trying to hide it makes me come up with my own conclusion of why you hate them... and what the hell is with the attitude? I asked a question, if you don't feel comfortable saying just say so.
I might be helping you fix a problem here but are you aware that when you message people it gets sent multiple times so I shit myself getting ready for a crap ton of comments but they're all the same 1?
When people say that, it means they hate them for no reason
or they just tired of some one asking them for some thing they don't wan… moret/can't revealed.
It is your opinion about a family
yeah its mine and I have the right to keep it to my self.
But you trying to hide it makes me come up with my own conclusion of why you hate them...
what a logical way if thinking.
Wow man, wow, you have the most logical mined a humen being ever had.
There's really no reason at all for hating them for no reason
oh excuse me can you remined me WHEN I said I hate them for no reasons.
Also its my opinion my reasons I have the right to say it or to keep it, why you so eager to know, have ever heard about personal privacy? Every one have his own stuff he can't share so no need to bitch about it.
As I said non of your business.
Is it because they're Cuban?
Wow man, wow, you have the most logical mined a humen being ever had.
There's really no reason at… more all for hating them for no reason
oh excuse me can you remined me WHEN I said I hate them for no reasons.
Also its my opinion my reasons I have the right to say it or to keep it, why you so eager to know, have ever heard about personal privacy? Every one have his own stuff he can't share so no need to bitch about it.
As I said non of your business.
Clementine has spent 3 seasons as the central focus, and has become a little depressing.
I see what you mean, but this series is her… more story, not Javier's. Also, she wasn't the main focus of S3, it was Javi's family. Who isn't depressed nowadays anyway? Javier still has his family while Clementine may have nothing at all (If AJ is dead).
Javier is more of side character material than a main character. He can have a Pete role from the Michonne Mini-series, but nothing bigger than that.
Okay, so I saw this hanging here for a while but didn't even bother clicking on it because, quite frankly, I didn't know if I should bother. While unhealthy saltiness and hate from the likes of Stryder was definitely a factor, the real issue I had was deciding how I feel about the notion period.
As I recently explained in the writers' Character Development thread, Javier himself just isn't that interesting a character, let alone an satisfactorily defined one. I mean, he's definitely a pretty okay and fun one, with a special gimmick to make him stand out, but beyond that, I hesitate to call him an outright good character. That's mainly because Javier, as of this post at least, doesn't really even have much of a character arc throughout the game imo since his motivation--"When family is all you have left…how far will you go to protect it?"--is not only a universal one, but also one that really isn't that adhered to in the plot itself. Half the time, it seems more like he was trying not to make any of them mad at him or David want to kill him than trying to protect them. Even without that, people will no doubt cite how Lee's backstory was a small but important part of his story through Carley and Larry and Clementine's part in his story acted as her backstory, while Javier's backstory is more of a series of informed flaws that are spoken about on occasion but have no relevance to his actual story. Like, I know we were told and even occasionally shown that he was more of a cocky party animal than a family guy originally and David beating him up for not getting home in time when their Pa-pa was on his way out is what convinced him to "clean up his act," but we honestly have little to no worthwhile context to contrast him with throughout the story proper.
The sad truth is that ANF is less Javier's story and more the Garcia Family story with David pretty much being the center pillar of that, for worse or better. Being frank here, my attention was personally almost always focused on seeing how Gabe would develop as a person and exploring Kate's character rather than on how cute Marianna is, or how totally deep and complex David is, or even on Javier in general. At the end of the story, David and Gabe are the most developed and/or interesting [original] characters for many people, with Javier being a Supporting Protagonist and Kate being very neglected even before Above the Law to an extent. And this all ties in with my repressed feelings towards From the Gallows, but since every member of his family can die(with Gabe being the most egregious in that regard), what do you do with him now? Like, I have no doubt that a good writer would see that not as an roadblock, but as a challenge they're confident they can complete, but it's still a significant issue for the rest of us looking in from the outside of a faraway skyscraper.
So, aside from the possibility of playing as him for the sake of maintaining how he was characterized through ANF if "Season 4" really does end with Clementine and AJ returning to Richmond, I'm gonna have to say no.
I agree with pretty much everything you said about Javier. I don't think he hasn't developed at all from Ep.1 through Ep.5, he's still the same ol' Javier from the beginning.
if "Season 4" really does end with Clementine and AJ returning to Richmond,
Okay, so I saw this hanging here for a while but didn't even bother clicking on it because, quite frankly, I didn't know if I should bother.… more While unhealthy saltiness and hate from the likes of Stryder was definitely a factor, the real issue I had was deciding how I feel about the notion period.
As I recently explained in the writers' Character Development thread, Javier himself just isn't that interesting a character, let alone an satisfactorily defined one. I mean, he's definitely a pretty okay and fun one, with a special gimmick to make him stand out, but beyond that, I hesitate to call him an outright good character. That's mainly because Javier, as of this post at least, doesn't really even have much of a character arc throughout the game imo since his motivation--"When family is all you have left…how far will you go to protect it?"--is not only a universal one, but also one that really isn't that adhered to in the plot itself. Half t… [view original content]
either have him as a minor character to play as for a short period of time at the beginning of each episode to show how he would rebuild Richmond from the player's POV/have him and clem both 50/50% playable just like TFTBL as that game did it so perfectly/just have him as a side character to assist clem in looking for aj, as it seems like the most logical choices just in case clem were to fail, javier would be the backup, seeing as he seems just as competent as clementine, if not more. As to who he will leave in charge of Richmond? Kate or David if they are alive. If David is dead and Kate is missing then it should be handed down one of the Prescott survivors. If the player did not choose to forgive Eleanor but Conrad is alive then it will be him, if she is forgiven and Conrad is alive it should still be Conrad, if Conrad is dead however and Eleanor is forgiven then it should be Eleanor in charge, if Conrad is dead and Eleanor is not forgiven then it should be handed down to somebody like fern to watch over until javier returns. This would show players right from the get-go that choices really do matter and would have a huge effect in the coming episodes.
Javier, as of this post at least, doesn't even have much of a character arc
all the more reason to bring him back and add to it, giving him a new purpose as his family is safe, and that purpose is to protect the family he created: being clementine and the Prescott survivor(s) and the rest of Richmond.
Okay, so I saw this hanging here for a while but didn't even bother clicking on it because, quite frankly, I didn't know if I should bother.… more While unhealthy saltiness and hate from the likes of Stryder was definitely a factor, the real issue I had was deciding how I feel about the notion period.
As I recently explained in the writers' Character Development thread, Javier himself just isn't that interesting a character, let alone an satisfactorily defined one. I mean, he's definitely a pretty okay and fun one, with a special gimmick to make him stand out, but beyond that, I hesitate to call him an outright good character. That's mainly because Javier, as of this post at least, doesn't really even have much of a character arc throughout the game imo since his motivation--"When family is all you have left…how far will you go to protect it?"--is not only a universal one, but also one that really isn't that adhered to in the plot itself. Half t… [view original content]
my biggest hope for Gabe is that they make Gabe and Kate a Carley/doug type determinant character i mean im the opposite when it comes to Kate cause i really dont like her since she gives me some flashbacks of Lori who i hated in the show.
Okay, so I saw this hanging here for a while but didn't even bother clicking on it because, quite frankly, I didn't know if I should bother.… more While unhealthy saltiness and hate from the likes of Stryder was definitely a factor, the real issue I had was deciding how I feel about the notion period.
As I recently explained in the writers' Character Development thread, Javier himself just isn't that interesting a character, let alone an satisfactorily defined one. I mean, he's definitely a pretty okay and fun one, with a special gimmick to make him stand out, but beyond that, I hesitate to call him an outright good character. That's mainly because Javier, as of this post at least, doesn't really even have much of a character arc throughout the game imo since his motivation--"When family is all you have left…how far will you go to protect it?"--is not only a universal one, but also one that really isn't that adhered to in the plot itself. Half t… [view original content]
I agree with pretty much everything you said about Javier. I don't think he hasn't developed at all from Ep.1 through Ep.5, he's still the s… moreame ol' Javier from the beginning.
if "Season 4" really does end with Clementine and AJ returning to Richmond,
God I hope not. That'll be a terrible idea.
I'm not going to assume anything here but your vision of clementine really makes her sound like a HUGE idiot. If she had half a brain she would return and keep aj safe instead of risking his life every day, and Richmond has supplies for her. She even says to javier towards the end, she'll bring AJ back if she can find him.
Mainly because I think the Garcia's are boring and considering how much negativity Javier's family is getting from the fans, I'm sure they wouldn't want them to come back.
Honestly, I'd rather be alone again then return to a place that's just been through hell and nearly destroyed along with people who possibly hate Javier and his family for destroying some of their lives.
(Determinantly) Clem raises AJ by herself for nearly a two years without a group. Why can't she do it again?
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that s exactly what im saying that was one of my problems with a new frontier since they could have done it but chose to get Lazy about it and just go with Javier only with 5 minutes of Clem per episode which is why i think a 50/50 split would work giving everyone their slice of Clementine and more survival based Plot while having her look for AJ and finding a new group while at the same time having Javier Leading Richmond , Negotiating with other big groups , having people scout for other people and several other things that cant be done with Just Clem and an overraching plot focusing on a single group and the group that opposes them .
My memory isn't the clearest about this stuff but I thought they said we will get to play as them both and people assumed it would be 50-50 (I admit I also thought it would be 50-50) season 4 needs to be what season 3 was supposed to be. But to season 1 standards. Plz telltale y u no listen ;_; I enjoyed season 3 but I admit it wasn't perfect
Actually, I think that's being saved as DLC later this season. Clem's story is too big to be left as DLC.
Her story being finished as DLC in a crappy season will be a slap to the face to fans and Telltale's own company.
I'm either down for that or for a scene that involves clem getting cornered by a group of walkers. Then satisfying sounding baseball bat outta nowhere. A few doinks later and saved. And those people we saw in the concept art for a new frontier (mainly in episode 4 and 5) should accompany javier (or whoever survived season 3) so we wouldn't have to deal with some random people who have nothing to do with Richmond. Less mouths to feed when come returns and all that
will be super sad if my Conrad dies though :c
Sophia always had been very protected with a community unlike Clementine.
The ANF Clem is the most unrealistic of all.
Walking alone like a fancy super kid unharmed with such annoying attitude.
Very Disney character.
If they kill off Clem soon I won't even care for this reason.
Only Season one felt like a real Walking Dead game.
The many stories even unscreen felt like the real walking dead universe.
She avoided people at all costs, as said in Ep.1 and she got her finger cut off, so I wouldn't say she was unharmed. She only had an attitude after AJ was taken away from her, can you really blame her for that? She's got nothing left to live for, that changes a person. Look at Kenny after his family and Sarita died, Nick after Pete died, Lily after Larry died, and Sarah after Carlos died.
Her attitude changes after the first half of New Frontier anyway. For starters, she was on her period before Ep.4 so that can be part of the reasoning why she had said attitude, and she finds out AJ is alive.
Because I hate javier and I hate the garcias and I don't wanna see any one of them again
I'd personally love to play as Javi again, but I don't know how they'd fit it into s4 if it's focused on Clementine (like how the Clem flashbacks seemed a little out of place in anf). Javi was such a fun character though, I'm gonna miss him
If I'm a hypocrite, I'm proud of it, ty goodbye.
I would've liked for javi Gar(seeya) to not let clem leave anf alone without fucking anything and instead for all the help she did for him he repay her back by helping her find AJ and that would've been ur 10% javi juice
Why do you hate them?
I think it should just be clem. But I am a fan of Javier so some Javier DLC would be wicked
at least 50% beacause he's cool and clem too so it would be better to play both characters when in different situation for example:''If Javi got caught somewhere trapped then you can control Clem to save Javi'' and inverse something like that
I was thinking of clementine getting trapped by a group of walkers, then you swap control over to javier where all you can see is his bat facing downwards then you get to take them all out, then you say hi and all that, then a new scene where you swap over to clem. Then there should be action scenes where you swap characters after each kill, similar to a few borderlands moments.
You got that right.
I might be helping you fix a problem here but are you aware that when you message people it gets sent multiple times so I shit myself getting ready for a crap ton of comments but they're all the same 1?
His time's over.
He had 6 hours screen time so I wouldn't call it "over" clementine has all fuck off hours of screen time and people said her story was over in season 2, but was it? Nope.
it will looks like GTA V
Melton23 is right
No, he wasn't. He really, really wasn't.
I'm sorry to hear you got such a nasty message in your box. All the same, it doesn't change the fact most people don't want Javi back.
The 50/50 idea between Javier and Clementine is not bad, the problem is Teltalle's apparent laziness in writing a coherent story. ANF showed up too much running, like it was a Michael Bay movie.
Non of your business.
When people say that, it means they hate them for no reason. It is your opinion about a family and there is nothing to be embarrassed about. But you trying to hide it makes me come up with my own conclusion of why you hate them... and what the hell is with the attitude? I asked a question, if you don't feel comfortable saying just say so.
or they just tired of some one asking them for some thing they don't want/can't revealed.
yeah its mine and I have the right to keep it to my self.
what a logical way if thinking.
I see.
Is it because they're Cuban? There's really no reason at all for hating them for no reason and hiding why unless you are a racist...
No
Wow man, wow, you have the most logical mined a humen being ever had.
oh excuse me can you remined me WHEN I said I hate them for no reasons.
Also its my opinion my reasons I have the right to say it or to keep it, why you so eager to know, have ever heard about personal privacy? Every one have his own stuff he can't share so no need to bitch about it.
As I said non of your business.
No offence but I think you need anger management if you're getting worked up about small things like this. It might do you some good.
Fixed.
Determinately, he has no one either.
Yeah, I kinda sorta agree.
Okay, so I saw this hanging here for a while but didn't even bother clicking on it because, quite frankly, I didn't know if I should bother. While unhealthy saltiness and hate from the likes of Stryder was definitely a factor, the real issue I had was deciding how I feel about the notion period.
As I recently explained in the writers' Character Development thread, Javier himself just isn't that interesting a character, let alone an satisfactorily defined one. I mean, he's definitely a pretty okay and fun one, with a special gimmick to make him stand out, but beyond that, I hesitate to call him an outright good character. That's mainly because Javier, as of this post at least, doesn't really even have much of a character arc throughout the game imo since his motivation--"When family is all you have left…how far will you go to protect it?"--is not only a universal one, but also one that really isn't that adhered to in the plot itself. Half the time, it seems more like he was trying not to make any of them mad at him or David want to kill him than trying to protect them. Even without that, people will no doubt cite how Lee's backstory was a small but important part of his story through Carley and Larry and Clementine's part in his story acted as her backstory, while Javier's backstory is more of a series of informed flaws that are spoken about on occasion but have no relevance to his actual story. Like, I know we were told and even occasionally shown that he was more of a cocky party animal than a family guy originally and David beating him up for not getting home in time when their Pa-pa was on his way out is what convinced him to "clean up his act," but we honestly have little to no worthwhile context to contrast him with throughout the story proper.
The sad truth is that ANF is less Javier's story and more the Garcia Family story with David pretty much being the center pillar of that, for worse or better. Being frank here, my attention was personally almost always focused on seeing how Gabe would develop as a person and exploring Kate's character rather than on how cute Marianna is, or how totally deep and complex David is, or even on Javier in general. At the end of the story, David and Gabe are the most developed and/or interesting [original] characters for many people, with Javier being a Supporting Protagonist and Kate being very neglected even before Above the Law to an extent. And this all ties in with my repressed feelings towards From the Gallows, but since every member of his family can die(with Gabe being the most egregious in that regard), what do you do with him now? Like, I have no doubt that a good writer would see that not as an roadblock, but as a challenge they're confident they can complete, but it's still a significant issue for the rest of us looking in from the outside of a faraway skyscraper.
So, aside from the possibility of playing as him for the sake of maintaining how he was characterized through ANF if "Season 4" really does end with Clementine and AJ returning to Richmond, I'm gonna have to say no.
I agree with pretty much everything you said about Javier. I don't think he hasn't developed at all from Ep.1 through Ep.5, he's still the same ol' Javier from the beginning.
God I hope not. That'll be a terrible idea.
If Clem had any sense (my version of Clem certainly does), she'd leave Richmond far, far, far, far, far behind.
either have him as a minor character to play as for a short period of time at the beginning of each episode to show how he would rebuild Richmond from the player's POV/have him and clem both 50/50% playable just like TFTBL as that game did it so perfectly/just have him as a side character to assist clem in looking for aj, as it seems like the most logical choices just in case clem were to fail, javier would be the backup, seeing as he seems just as competent as clementine, if not more. As to who he will leave in charge of Richmond? Kate or David if they are alive. If David is dead and Kate is missing then it should be handed down one of the Prescott survivors. If the player did not choose to forgive Eleanor but Conrad is alive then it will be him, if she is forgiven and Conrad is alive it should still be Conrad, if Conrad is dead however and Eleanor is forgiven then it should be Eleanor in charge, if Conrad is dead and Eleanor is not forgiven then it should be handed down to somebody like fern to watch over until javier returns. This would show players right from the get-go that choices really do matter and would have a huge effect in the coming episodes.
all the more reason to bring him back and add to it, giving him a new purpose as his family is safe, and that purpose is to protect the family he created: being clementine and the Prescott survivor(s) and the rest of Richmond.
my biggest hope for Gabe is that they make Gabe and Kate a Carley/doug type determinant character i mean im the opposite when it comes to Kate cause i really dont like her since she gives me some flashbacks of Lori who i hated in the show.
How is clem and aj returning to Richmond a terrible idea? Who in the right mind would risk their child being eaten over being safe?
I'm not going to assume anything here but your vision of clementine really makes her sound like a HUGE idiot. If she had half a brain she would return and keep aj safe instead of risking his life every day, and Richmond has supplies for her. She even says to javier towards the end, she'll bring AJ back if she can find him.
Mainly because I think the Garcia's are boring and considering how much negativity Javier's family is getting from the fans, I'm sure they wouldn't want them to come back.
Honestly, I'd rather be alone again then return to a place that's just been through hell and nearly destroyed along with people who possibly hate Javier and his family for destroying some of their lives.
(Determinantly) Clem raises AJ by herself for nearly a two years without a group. Why can't she do it again?