What were your disappointments with ANF? and your reasons for hating them?
For me they ruined the whole series with ANF, the decisions that have no serious consequences, non charismatic characters, a boring story stop;
One of the important things he had in the first 2 seasons of twd were the sad endings and in the ANF it sucked ..
Hopefully the season finale will be a thousand times better.
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Ugh. Another one of these threads?
Hasn't everyone already explained everything that's wrong with it to the point where nothing new can possibly be added?
I guess, for me, it was that it derailed the series by branching off into a side story about some guy. It didn't help that the story itself was contrived, the protagonist and new cast were unsympathetic and unrealistic, and somebody thought a good idea would be to replace slower moments developing the characters with "super exciting" QTE action. It felt like they were simply appealing to the lowest common denominator. What's done is done, though. Hopefully the rushed ending and reaffirmation of continuing back on track with the series is a sign TT was as eager to put ANF behind them as I was.
I got a little time, so I guess I'll put some stuff out here for now:
Too long to list them all...
Maybe they are new or hope and look for different answers to the same question. I always felt if it was too much of a problem maybe it's a mods job to delete them. Or a users job to just not comment on threads that annoy them with repetitiveness each time like myself. Perhaps their truly is very little more to discuss over New Frontier besides people's disdain for the game and they have the privilege of opening threads to their wishes on a forum for threads if it follows the guidelines.
If a restaurant only serves fries in the entire menu across the nation I don't call their C.E.O each time to say "what? fries again that's it"? I go to a restaurant that has more substance in variety. But to each their own. I would guess you all have similar privileges to complain about threads being the same as folks who make them have the privilege to open them. New Frontier's flop has kind of made the forum a wasteland of negativity I remember when season 2 was over folks were arguing over Kenny and Jane until almost 2 years later and other discussions about Wellington the family and the alone ending. So much discussion few years ago compared to now. With only the constant shitting on the third season. And in a way I can understand it.
They did have 3 years nearly to come with something incredible but they sank their own boat last minute for unknown reasons or basically no reason. So much great cut content gone for that? Might not of made it better than season 1 but definitely would of been stronger than what was released. I don't let it annoy me because I can understand that folks just come here to vent their frustrations with the game that had possibly the most hype of all 3 only to let everyone down or most everyone. Here is a prayer that the final season will kick so much ass hopefully.
The fact that it exists.
Amongst the 50000 problems with the game, problem number 24183 definitely bothers me a lot and is a problem that doesn't get talked about as much as it should. The increase in stupid ass, pointless comedy that relegates the game into a fucking sitcom/rom com. Stupid ass dubstep/drum sound effects when Clementine was beating those Walkers with the bat, Kate's constant rom com/sitcom flirting with Javier (someone on here called her a sitcom mom, lmfao), Kate smoking weed etc. I think they done it to try and appeal to younger players.
What's even funnier is that a New Frontier is over and people keep talking about it like it is their new favourite game. I know haters low-key love it
Well, then it seems you also low-key love the haters since you keep talking about them in every single one of these threads that pop up. It's ok, we are lovable people
Even in the positive threads he shows up to whine about them lol. The damage control is real.
No, A New Frontier always deserves more hate.
Of course I love the haters, they give me a good laugh and a few things to thing about. And without hate, games can't improve
I'm more disappointed in this fanbase than the game itself.
Almost the entirety of the main cast being related to the main character, meaning I dont really get to form my own opinions of the characters
Not really. You can think Kate is a unhealthy love addict, David is an abusive asshole, Gabe a wannabe/tryhard junior asshole, and Mariana is a lazy airhead and still just work with them.
Same can be said for most of the casts, honestly--Jane.
That's one way of looking at it.
Had they truly studied season 2 criticisms then New Frontier would had been an improvement and not a bigger disappointment. Two years of what was going on with season 2, that was weak points with the story.. could had been learned from and I thought surely they would had learned from past mistakes but instead made same or worse mistakes with a new guy nobody cared for. That's how I kind of felt.
Yeah as much as haters do have their benefits they are a bit redundant seeing as anf is in the past.
So it's our fault for Telltale to stab us in the back and give this game to newcomers? Genius.
I think that may be a reason they didn't just dummy out Mariana, incidentally.
Well that and you already developed a relationship with them even though you, as the player, have no idea who they are. The game wants you to look after those people and connect with them. That’s why it failed.
At least with Lee, nobody knew who he was so you can treat them however you liked and they formed their own opinion about you. With Javier, his family and friends will always know him as the “funny, Good-guy Uncle” even if you act like an asshole the whole time.
Gotta love the weekly "Why ANF sucks" or "What are your reasons for hating ANF" circlejerk thread.
I can imagine when S4 has ended, there will still be the weekly "ANF is the worst game of all time" thread. I'll bet my Steam :doug: emoji on it.
The way the s2 endings were handled was completely unacceptable and permanently left a bad mark on the rest of the season.
I agree. I want another dark game like S1.
Lets see...OH!!
Disappointments include:
This is the worst thing Telltale has ever done. I'm giving this a 0.2/10!!
Boo hoo.
Actually, I'd say it looks more like a shitty attempt at replicating motion capture game graphics.
With little to no screentime spent actually engaging in interaction, I might add. Or even looking at her, really.
I can't tell if you're being sardonic here or not.
Compare ANF gameplay with the ones from the previous seasons. They had a lot of exploring and hubs. In ANF Episode 3 we never have Javi explore an area expect the one where we have to open the garage of the factory which is pretty much QTE.
This issue wouldn't have been a big deal if other issues were done right.
More like Clem kisses him if stayed with Jane, the boy she has only known for 3 days and cried the way she did to Lee and Kenny (If killed in S2), the ones she has known for more than 3 months.
Nope. Being serious.
I know right. She didn't kiss Lee or Kenny, but Gabe is so special that he gets a kiss!?
And S2
Javier, both a disappointment and a reason to hate the Season as a whole. Have in mind that I wasn't opposed in the slightest to the idea of Javier as a character having even voted in some polls that I'd honestly rather 100% new character playability. He seemed interesting enough on that little clip at E3 - fresh blood, a blank slate - so bear in mind that my distaste for his inclusion has nothing to do with Clem being shoved away from the spotlight, but more with the character itself - which sucks completely.
Let me start by the worst part of Javier's character - he's so, so, but so incredibly bland. A charismatic, funny, attractive, young guy, I have never seen such thing before in media! What a breath of fresh air! Javier's most distinguishable trait from your average Joe is... that he was a baseball player. That's literally it that separates this "character" from any other generic male protagonist. How unoriginal could Telltale have gotten. What is there of original with this character? How does he make the narrative more gripping/original/interesting in the slightest?
Telltale, instead of giving the character itself, you know, character, and an interesting personality, decided to make the people surrounding him the only interesting part of the character itself. Javier's personality/backstory is irrelevant to the overall plot, adds nothing - his involvement with character's such as David, Mariana, Gabe and Kate however, are what make this guy relevant and "interesting" ( if you can call that interesting) in the slightest.
This lack of any original traits could've been acceptable perhaps had the character been given some development throughout the Season, but that's what's perhaps most abhorrent and stupid about Javier's character: he doesn't change, like, at all. The Javier you see at the first sequence - a pre-apocalipse Javier at that - has the exact same personality as the post apocalipse Javier. You see nothing change after the "4 years later" prompt. It's beyond ridiculous how the fall of society - the goddamn apocalypse - hasn't changed this guy at all. And it gets worse, throughout the Season as he loses family member after family member, as he experiences monstrosity after monstrosity, you see absolutely no permanent change in this guy, by the final scene of ANF Javier could determinantly have lost three of the people most close to him, and guess what he is doing? Joking about, flirting (you know being his incredibly unoriginal and bland self), cutting Clem's hair and casually talking about baseball??? He wasn't hardened in the slightest by 4 years of living in what's literally hell, and he still isn't hardened or affected long term at all by the loss of literally half his remaining family. You explain this to me, because I can't rationalize it. Javier is kept bland, uninteresting and unoriginal throughout the whole Season.
Finally, Javier as a prospect, an idea, was perfect. We had been two Seasons shaping Clementine, making her our own, Season 2 specifically hyped up that we were building "My Clementine". Javier would be the vessel necessary for us, as the player, to experience what we had built through the past Seasons. We'd see her flaws, virtues, beliefs, philosophies, traits we shaped her up to have though Javier's perspective - a potential friend/companion, or, even more interesting, a potential foe? All of it was throw out of the window when they made the girl as linear as they could. We saw, what, 5 determinant lines through the whole season? Less? It's so sad. There are so many combinations of choices for Clementine, all of which tell something different about who she is, but Telltale was just too lazy. A shame.
Ultimately, Javier needed to be both interesting in himself and a way to add continuity to ANF by, through him, having the player experience "My Clementine" - they failed in both aspects. This character sucked and I hope to never see him again.
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I feel you pain. Clenny for life.
leave a like anyways pls ty xoxooxoxo
Added you to my Fuck-You list
I'm honored
Javier is one of the worst video game characters of all time.