They said Clementine's personality will be different in this season depending on our choices but Clementine had the same personality no matter what you even choose in this game. You're not fooling me with that stupid ending card. It won't even affect the next installment with Clementine. Fuck you, Telltale.
I don't think she had the same personality. There is some variation in her dialogue lines.
You can make different choices in the flashbacks creating her personality and finally is important who from the Garcia's will survive.
Telltale promised in the future episodes to not kill off the surviving Garcia's like they did with Kenny and Jane. The story will continue with the surviving cast.
It is not sure Ava/Tripp really died. Alyssa just said in the ama Tripp really died in episode 4...
They said Clementine's personality will be different in this season depending on our choices but Clementine had the same personality no matt… moreer what you even choose in this game. You're not fooling me with that stupid ending card. It won't even affect the next installment with Clementine. Fuck you, Telltale.
It is not sure Ava/Tripp really died. Alyssa just said in the ama Tripp really died in episode 4...
Please don't one of those poor Telltale slaves. They are always talking shit. Do you really think Episode 1 was too big to be released as whole? We fell for it. Also, she didn't even say anything about them in episode 5 unless you have proof.
Telltale promised in the future episodes to not kill off the surviving Garcia's like they did with Kenny and Jane. The story will continue with the surviving cast.
Just like they promised that Season 2 Endings will make a big impact in Season 3.
I don't think she had the same personality. There is some variation in her dialogue lines.
Those dialogues don't mean jack shit.
You can make different choices in the flashbacks creating her personality and finally is important who from the Garcia's will survive.
Doesn't change the fact that none of our choices (Except Season 2 endings) from the previous seasons never affected Clementine. They even said that Watching Carver Die will affect her but it doesn't add anything but a stupid callback and Jane's thoughts if you stayed with her.
I don't think she had the same personality. There is some variation in her dialogue lines.
You can make different choices in the flashbacks… more creating her personality and finally is important who from the Garcia's will survive.
Telltale promised in the future episodes to not kill off the surviving Garcia's like they did with Kenny and Jane. The story will continue with the surviving cast.
It is not sure Ava/Tripp really died. Alyssa just said in the ama Tripp really died in episode 4...
And well, Season 2 endings really meant something.
The scars for example. The flashbacks and some personality difference.
And I still believe the old version was better and more close to comics.
I feel the original version was too disturbing for this public. The brandings was probably disturbing. You don't see heavy torture in telltale games the way in the comics. Like the slaughterhouse was probably too disturbing.
This why the comics are much better to me. The comics only is the real walking dead.
In the comics for example young teenage girls are raped or sexual active. I am sure telltale won't go this way.
It is not sure Ava/Tripp really died. Alyssa just said in the ama Tripp really died in episode 4...
Please don't one of those poor T… moreelltale slaves. They are always talking shit. Do you really think Episode 1 was too big to be released as whole? We fell for it. Also, she didn't even say anything about them in episode 5 unless you have proof.
Telltale promised in the future episodes to not kill off the surviving Garcia's like they did with Kenny and Jane. The story will continue with the surviving cast.
Just like they promised that Season 2 Endings will make a big impact in Season 3.
I don't think she had the same personality. There is some variation in her dialogue lines.
Those dialogues don't mean jack shit.
You can make different choices in the flashbacks creating her personality and finally is important who from the Garcia's will survive.
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Give me the goddamn location. I don't wanna waste time looking through all the pages.
See, you just expected 42 different movies.
If you keep defending Telltale's bullshit, you're wasting your time.
I feel the original version was too disturbing for this public. The brandings was probably disturbing. You don't see heavy torture in telltale games the way in the comics. Like the slaughterhouse was probably too disturbing.
I DON'T CARE. This series is rated M. The final version of the game didn't make me feel emotional like the previous games. I was always like "Meh".
She did. Just read the whole Ama.
Pgfff
See, you just expected 42 different movies.
And well, Season 2 endings really meant somethi… moreng.
The scars for example. The flashbacks and some personality difference.
And I still believe the old version was better and more close to comics.
I feel the original version was too disturbing for this public. The brandings was probably disturbing. You don't see heavy torture in telltale games the way in the comics. Like the slaughterhouse was probably too disturbing.
This why the comics are much better to me. The comics only is the real walking dead.
In the comics for example young teenage girls are raped or sexual active. I am sure telltale won't go this way.
She did. Just read the whole Ama.
Give me the goddamn location. I don't wanna waste time looking through all the pages.
See, y… moreou just expected 42 different movies.
If you keep defending Telltale's bullshit, you're wasting your time.
I feel the original version was too disturbing for this public. The brandings was probably disturbing. You don't see heavy torture in telltale games the way in the comics. Like the slaughterhouse was probably too disturbing.
I DON'T CARE. This series is rated M. The final version of the game didn't make me feel emotional like the previous games. I was always like "Meh".
I played S2 Clem as an edgy and cold-blooded character. When I started playing Episode 1 of ANF and saw the Clem, I though like "wow they really remembered how I played her, I wonder how this situation would go if you played as a nice character". And then I learned they just made her edgy and evil for everyone. This was a second big disappointment with the game.
I knew she wasn't the Clementine I had raised and looked after the second she shot Eli in cold blood. And don't give me that "It was an acci… moredent!" or "He sold her faulty bullets; he deserved it!" or "He tried to kill Javier!" shit. I know he attacked him, but there were so many other ways that situation could have been resolved, but instead, she instigated and raised her gun at him first, and pulled the trigger more than once. She then intentionally reloaded it, and you know what's the most fucked?
She didn't even care that she had just murdered someone. All she cared about was not getting caught. And as the cherry on top, she expected Javier, someone who she had just threatened to shoot, kinda made him make a deal with her about handing over the van (which had everything they owned), and held him hostage. This was one of the most fucked scenes in my opinion, and it showed me my choices from season two didn't mean jack-shit.
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Pff you all complain about Clem, but my Javi is probably Gay or bisexual
XD
I rejected Kate
I were always nice with Paul
At the and I say him nice armor
Then he replied well…hum…yeah… ok
XD
It didn't exactly ruin her character for me, what I'm trying to say is the period scene made her out of character moments much worse than it… more already is. At least for me.
It made me uncomfortable because I didn't want to believe that she's actually going through that. I know, it's realistic, but couldn't Telltale do that scene in later seasons when Clem is much older?
I must agree! I feel like TT felt like they had to mature Clem quickly cause we might get bored with her or something along those lines. Like making her some sort of badass would make her more appealing to us when we love her for her. And like you said, with her going head over heels for Gabe did make it really cringy. But I guess it was TT's way of showing us Clem isn't our little girl anymore. She swears like a 8th grader and just has this "I don't care about anything, when I actually do care" kind of thing going on. But given the path she's been on, it kinda gives her a reason to be to herself. Plus with the whole "period thing" I wish Lee was there to explain it ;_; But at her age she didn't need "the talk" yet.
Dude, even the adults changed in so many ways on apocalypse so dont expect otherwise for Clem. She bashed a zombie's brain when she was 9 and determinantly in same day she shot someone in the brain. She was killing zombies when she was 11. Determinantly she took care of baby when she was 12. She was killing The New Frontier guards when she is 13. These are not normal things. Of course witnessing the change of Clementine is not something that can be prevented because this is what it needs to happen if you are living in the apocalypse and if you are just a kid.
The problem is that TellTale has streamlined all Clementines into the "badass" edgelord version of her. TellTale doesn't give a crap that yo… moreu spend two seasons molding her ethics and personality. Her fawning all over Gabe in e5 despite being disgusted by that kind of thing in e1 is just ridiculous. There is no character consistency anymore in general. Almost every freaking character pulls a 180 in every new episode they're in.
I think Clem just hit an all time low after Lee. Like yeah she's young and all but I think Mariana was her age or close and never really did anything determinately on her own.
Dude, even the adults changed in so many ways on apocalypse so dont expect otherwise for Clem. She bashed a zombie's brain when she was 9 an… mored determinantly in same day she shot someone in the brain. She was killing zombies when she was 11. Determinantly she took care of baby when she was 12. She was killing The New Frontier guards when she is 13. These are not normal things. Of course witnessing the change of Clementine is not something that can be prevented because this is what it needs to happen if you are living in the apocalypse and if you are just a kid.
I must agree! I feel like TT felt like they had to mature Clem quickly cause we might get bored with her or something along those lines. Lik… moree making her some sort of badass would make her more appealing to us when we love her for her. And like you said, with her going head over heels for Gabe did make it really cringy. But I guess it was TT's way of showing us Clem isn't our little girl anymore. She swears like a 8th grader and just has this "I don't care about anything, when I actually do care" kind of thing going on. But given the path she's been on, it kinda gives her a reason to be to herself. Plus with the whole "period thing" I wish Lee was there to explain it ;_; But at her age she didn't need "the talk" yet.
Mariana was 10. And I was always pretty sure that she and Gabe did indeed retrieve survival and combat training from Kate and Javier(a rarity, I ironically assure you), they're lifestyle and the possible favoritism meant they rarely got to use it, to Mariana's content and Gabe's agitation.
I think Clem just hit an all time low after Lee. Like yeah she's young and all but I think Mariana was her age or close and never really did anything determinately on her own.
Did he though? Like, I know it's just the typical cliche of the asshole guard getting killed--but an edgy "badass" no less--, but in the context of what we were given, it honestly just seemed like she decided she didn't need him anymore(which is more or less what it was) or simply took offense to him pointing out the painfully obvious fact that she has poor hygiene.
Which honestly, I can see why someone might rush in to say it's both.
He was needlessly cruel...complacent in Carver's plans...plus lets remember...he was her captor...so if shooting him in the dick also helped destract the walkers so they could start their escape...well so much the better.
Did he though? Like, I know it's just the typical cliche of the asshole guard getting killed--but an edgy "badass" no less--, but in the con… moretext of what we were given, it honestly just seemed like she decided she didn't need him anymore(which is more or less what it was) or simply took offense to him pointing out the painfully obvious fact that she has poor hygiene.
Which honestly, I can see why someone might rush in to say it's both.
Like making her some sort of badass would make her more appealing to us when we love her for her.
This applies to the series as a whole since In Harm's Way. And the fanbase had a fairly significant hand in that, to be blunt.
True, I mean to me Mari and Clem obviously aren't BFF's, but they've had their share of similar scenarios. What I'm getting at is even though they've both been put to the test, (and prevailed) they've dealt with it and themselves differently. What I don't get is how can the environment (they have no control over) be to blame? Like in TWD series, the world has gone to shit, but somehow Negan can find a way to laugh and make cheesy jokes. Survival instincts?
Mariana was 10. And I was always pretty sure that she and Gabe did indeed retrieve survival and combat training from Kate and Javier(a rarit… morey, I ironically assure you), they're lifestyle and the possible favoritism meant they rarely got to use it, to Mariana's content and Gabe's agitation.
He was needlessly cruel...complacent in Carver's plans...plus lets remember...he was her captor...so if shooting him in the dick also helped destract the walkers so they could start their escape...well so much the better.
True, I mean to me Mari and Clem obviously aren't BFF's, but they've had their share of similar scenarios.
I guess. The key(read:HUGE) difference is that Clementine had Lee and numerous other people to protect and teach her, have her do a variety things with/for them, and experienced a bunch of dramatic horror and shit that meant she didn't always have someone to consistently care about and relate to; Mariana got to cruise around with comparatively minimal danger and a strong yet chill uncle, a cautious and nonaggressive stepmom, and an overachieving big brother to protect her and do most of the hard work for four years straight.
So basically, they're both lucky but in significantly different ways.
What I don't get is how can the environment (they have no control over) be to blame?
Like in TWD series, the world has gone to shit, but somehow Negan can find a way to laugh and make cheesy jokes. Survival instincts?
Some people adapt easier than others. In the case of characters like Negan and Nate, they're just sick/hedonisitc assholes with terrible senses of humor.
True, I mean to me Mari and Clem obviously aren't BFF's, but they've had their share of similar scenarios. What I'm getting at is even thoug… moreh they've both been put to the test, (and prevailed) they've dealt with it and themselves differently. What I don't get is how can the environment (they have no control over) be to blame? Like in TWD series, the world has gone to shit, but somehow Negan can find a way to laugh and make cheesy jokes. Survival instincts?
True, I mean to me Mari and Clem obviously aren't BFF's, but they've had their share of similar scenarios.
I guess. The key(read:HUG… moreE) difference is that Clementine had Lee and numerous other people to protect and teach her, have her do a variety things with/for them, and experienced a bunch of dramatic horror and shit that meant she didn't always have someone to consistently care about and relate to; Mariana got to cruise around with comparatively minimal danger and a strong yet chill uncle, a cautious and nonaggressive stepmom, and an overachieving big brother to protect her and do most of the hard work for four years straight.
So basically, they're both lucky but in significantly different ways.
What I don't get is how can the environment (they have no control over) be to blame?
Like in TWD series, the world has gone to shit, but somehow Negan can find a way to laugh and make cheesy jokes. Survival instincts?
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That's pretty much along the lines how most of the bigger major characters are created/written, yes. Including Kenny himself.
So Marianna is OG!Clementine/Sarah with every advantage possible, be it having a consistent family to positively help her along over the years or being a chocolate whore instead of an apple jill.
XD *chocolate/walkman whore. I hate nitpicking, but that little concept that every tween introduced would be some sort of Clem's opposite. But I'm glad TT didn't go for the whole "looking into a mirror" route when it comes to kids Clem's age. They kinda didn't have a choice but they didn't over do it.
That's pretty much along the lines how most of the bigger major characters are created/written, yes. Including Kenny himself.
So Marianna… more is OG!Clementine/Sarah with every advantage possible, be it having a consistent family to positively help her along over the years or being a chocolate whore instead of an apple jill.
I hate nitpicking, but that little concept that every tween introduced would be some sort of Clem's opposite.
Did you forget to put something in this sentence? Cause it looks like you left something out there and thus it sounds like it wants to say something else.
But I'm glad TT didn't go for the whole "looking into a mirror" route when it comes to kids Clem's age. They kinda didn't have a choice but they didn't over do it.
Eh, to each their own. Personally, one of the things I want the Final Season to do is finally give Clementine a proper evil counterpart to actually interact with.
With that said, that is a sticking point I have with the last two episodes for ANF.
XD *chocolate/walkman whore. I hate nitpicking, but that little concept that every tween introduced would be some sort of Clem's opposite. B… moreut I'm glad TT didn't go for the whole "looking into a mirror" route when it comes to kids Clem's age. They kinda didn't have a choice but they didn't over do it.
Did you forget to put something in this sentence? Cause it looks like you left something out there and thus it sounds like it wants to say something else.
Like you know that old cliche "Hey we're two different people but we're still the same, it'll take a while for us to bond but we'll be besties" in video games? H8 that with a passion. Like I'm not saying if Mariana would've of still been alive I would've loved for them to become a tag-team or anything, just hate when it's forced.
I hate nitpicking, but that little concept that every tween introduced would be some sort of Clem's opposite.
Did you forget to put … moresomething in this sentence? Cause it looks like you left something out there and thus it sounds like it wants to say something else.
But I'm glad TT didn't go for the whole "looking into a mirror" route when it comes to kids Clem's age. They kinda didn't have a choice but they didn't over do it.
Eh, to each their own. Personally, one of the things I want the Final Season to do is finally give Clementine a proper evil counterpart to actually interact with.
With that said, that is a sticking point I have with the last two episodes for ANF.
Oh, that thing. It depends on how it's done, really. Plus, it provides a form of character development to help make things interesting.
I know one for letdowns for many people is the fact that Javier and Clementine seemed destined to be something like that and the game proper toned it down significantly before forgetting it altogether in Above the Law.
Did you forget to put something in this sentence? Cause it looks like you left something out there and thus it sounds like it wants to say s… moreomething else.
Like you know that old cliche "Hey we're two different people but we're still the same, it'll take a while for us to bond but we'll be besties" in video games? H8 that with a passion. Like I'm not saying if Mariana would've of still been alive I would've loved for them to become a tag-team or anything, just hate when it's forced.
I know one for letdowns for many people is the fact that Javier and Clementine seemed destined to be something like that and the game proper toned it down significantly before forgetting it altogether in Above the Law.
Yes exactly! That's why I'm not all that worried about new characters in Clem's age group and a little older to become on-going for S3. My guess is she'd be around 17 or 18, cause they don't want her to age that much but just enough.
Oh, that thing. It depends on how it's done, really. Plus, it provides a form of character development to help make things interesting.
I… more know one for letdowns for many people is the fact that Javier and Clementine seemed destined to be something like that and the game proper toned it down significantly before forgetting it altogether in Above the Law.
I know one for letdowns for many people is the fact that Javier and Clementine seemed destined to be something like that and the game proper… more toned it down significantly before forgetting it altogether in Above the Law.
Yes exactly! That's why I'm not all that worried about new characters in Clem's age group and a little older to become on-going for S3. My guess is she'd be around 17 or 18, cause they don't want her to age that much but just enough.
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They said Clementine's personality will be different in this season depending on our choices but Clementine had the same personality no matter what you even choose in this game. You're not fooling me with that stupid ending card. It won't even affect the next installment with Clementine. Fuck you, Telltale.
I don't think she had the same personality. There is some variation in her dialogue lines.
You can make different choices in the flashbacks creating her personality and finally is important who from the Garcia's will survive.
Telltale promised in the future episodes to not kill off the surviving Garcia's like they did with Kenny and Jane. The story will continue with the surviving cast.
It is not sure Ava/Tripp really died. Alyssa just said in the ama Tripp really died in episode 4...
Please don't one of those poor Telltale slaves. They are always talking shit. Do you really think Episode 1 was too big to be released as whole? We fell for it. Also, she didn't even say anything about them in episode 5 unless you have proof.
Just like they promised that Season 2 Endings will make a big impact in Season 3.
Those dialogues don't mean jack shit.
Doesn't change the fact that none of our choices (Except Season 2 endings) from the previous seasons never affected Clementine. They even said that Watching Carver Die will affect her but it doesn't add anything but a stupid callback and Jane's thoughts if you stayed with her.
She did. Just read the whole Ama.
Pgfff
See, you just expected 42 different movies.
And well, Season 2 endings really meant something.
The scars for example. The flashbacks and some personality difference.
And I still believe the old version was better and more close to comics.
I feel the original version was too disturbing for this public. The brandings was probably disturbing. You don't see heavy torture in telltale games the way in the comics. Like the slaughterhouse was probably too disturbing.
This why the comics are much better to me. The comics only is the real walking dead.
In the comics for example young teenage girls are raped or sexual active. I am sure telltale won't go this way.
Give me the goddamn location. I don't wanna waste time looking through all the pages.
If you keep defending Telltale's bullshit, you're wasting your time.
I DON'T CARE. This series is rated M. The final version of the game didn't make me feel emotional like the previous games. I was always like "Meh".
Ok sorry Gabe lol
Try harder
I played S2 Clem as an edgy and cold-blooded character. When I started playing Episode 1 of ANF and saw the Clem, I though like "wow they really remembered how I played her, I wonder how this situation would go if you played as a nice character". And then I learned they just made her edgy and evil for everyone. This was a second big disappointment with the game.
What does that have to do with anything? lol
Periods make girls angry and different. There's your answer.
I must agree! I feel like TT felt like they had to mature Clem quickly cause we might get bored with her or something along those lines. Like making her some sort of badass would make her more appealing to us when we love her for her. And like you said, with her going head over heels for Gabe did make it really cringy. But I guess it was TT's way of showing us Clem isn't our little girl anymore. She swears like a 8th grader and just has this "I don't care about anything, when I actually do care" kind of thing going on. But given the path she's been on, it kinda gives her a reason to be to herself. Plus with the whole "period thing" I wish Lee was there to explain it ;_; But at her age she didn't need "the talk" yet.
Dude, even the adults changed in so many ways on apocalypse so dont expect otherwise for Clem. She bashed a zombie's brain when she was 9 and determinantly in same day she shot someone in the brain. She was killing zombies when she was 11. Determinantly she took care of baby when she was 12. She was killing The New Frontier guards when she is 13. These are not normal things. Of course witnessing the change of Clementine is not something that can be prevented because this is what it needs to happen if you are living in the apocalypse and if you are just a kid.
He deserved it.
Agreed
Telltale is all like "Isn't this how kids mature in real life?" Lol
I think Clem just hit an all time low after Lee. Like yeah she's young and all but I think Mariana was her age or close and never really did anything determinately on her own.
I love how you're agreeing with the guy who's agreeing with someone else.
This applies to the series as a whole since In Harm's Way. And the fanbase had a fairly significant hand in that, to be blunt.
Mariana was 10. And I was always pretty sure that she and Gabe did indeed retrieve survival and combat training from Kate and Javier(a rarity, I ironically assure you), they're lifestyle and the possible favoritism meant they rarely got to use it, to Mariana's content and Gabe's agitation.
Did he though? Like, I know it's just the typical cliche of the asshole guard getting killed--but an edgy "badass" no less--, but in the context of what we were given, it honestly just seemed like she decided she didn't need him anymore(which is more or less what it was) or simply took offense to him pointing out the painfully obvious fact that she has poor hygiene.
Which honestly, I can see why someone might rush in to say it's both.
Search your feelings...you know it to be true!
He was needlessly cruel...complacent in Carver's plans...plus lets remember...he was her captor...so if shooting him in the dick also helped destract the walkers so they could start their escape...well so much the better.
Lul
Really?? if that's the case...do we even know what we want? :0
True, I mean to me Mari and Clem obviously aren't BFF's, but they've had their share of similar scenarios. What I'm getting at is even though they've both been put to the test, (and prevailed) they've dealt with it and themselves differently. What I don't get is how can the environment (they have no control over) be to blame? Like in TWD series, the world has gone to shit, but somehow Negan can find a way to laugh and make cheesy jokes. Survival instincts?
I wouldn't say cruel so much as dickish, but whatever.
Which was pointless/dumb considering barely 3 walkers come after him close to the building while they're still close to it.
And this is supposed to be the smart, pragmatic character, don'cha know.
Sorta, but not really. Or at the very least, we're just really persnickety about the details.
I guess. The key(read:HUGE) difference is that Clementine had Lee and numerous other people to protect and teach her, have her do a variety things with/for them, and experienced a bunch of dramatic horror and shit that meant she didn't always have someone to consistently care about and relate to; Mariana got to cruise around with comparatively minimal danger and a strong yet chill uncle, a cautious and nonaggressive stepmom, and an overachieving big brother to protect her and do most of the hard work for four years straight.
So basically, they're both lucky but in significantly different ways.
Some people adapt easier than others. In the case of characters like Negan and Nate, they're just sick/hedonisitc assholes with terrible senses of humor.
It's like we know what we want, but TT has to be one step ahead ha, and one screw up is the deal breaker. But TT isn't perfect.
Think Telltale tried to show us in a way "this is what Clem woulda became" hence Mariana's lifestyle? Or is that a reach?
That's pretty much along the lines how most of the bigger major characters are created/written, yes. Including Kenny himself.
So Marianna is OG!Clementine/Sarah with every advantage possible, be it having a consistent family to positively help her along over the years or being a chocolate whore instead of an apple jill.
XD *chocolate/walkman whore. I hate nitpicking, but that little concept that every tween introduced would be some sort of Clem's opposite. But I'm glad TT didn't go for the whole "looking into a mirror" route when it comes to kids Clem's age. They kinda didn't have a choice but they didn't over do it.
Did you forget to put something in this sentence? Cause it looks like you left something out there and thus it sounds like it wants to say something else.
Eh, to each their own. Personally, one of the things I want the Final Season to do is finally give Clementine a proper evil counterpart to actually interact with.
With that said, that is a sticking point I have with the last two episodes for ANF.
Like you know that old cliche "Hey we're two different people but we're still the same, it'll take a while for us to bond but we'll be besties" in video games? H8 that with a passion. Like I'm not saying if Mariana would've of still been alive I would've loved for them to become a tag-team or anything, just hate when it's forced.
Oh, that thing. It depends on how it's done, really. Plus, it provides a form of character development to help make things interesting.
I know one for letdowns for many people is the fact that Javier and Clementine seemed destined to be something like that and the game proper toned it down significantly before forgetting it altogether in Above the Law.
Yes exactly! That's why I'm not all that worried about new characters in Clem's age group and a little older to become on-going for S3. My guess is she'd be around 17 or 18, cause they don't want her to age that much but just enough.
That's really not what I was getting at there, but whatever.