If you had to change someone's reason for death, who would it be and why?
Hey guys. This is that forum noob Malach-ite wou keeps pestering the general populace. The question is basically all in the title. The only rules are that it has to be a character from TWDG AND you cannot change the time of death, only the method/reason.
Me personally; I didn't like the way Jane died in ANF. I feel like she could of had two different death scenes. At the beginning of both, her and Clem would be preparing for a conflict with a rival group (which ends up to be Wellington). If you let the family in, Randy and his family would get scared and bolt with some supplies, unwillingly killing Jane when she tries to stop them. If you don't let the family in, Wellington would attack. Edith would try to negotiate with the girls but Randy would end up as a soldier and say that Clem/Jane caused his family to die. Edith would engage in conflict, killing Jane and Clem barely making it out alive.
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That not changing the time thing seems technically really limiting.
It just has to stay within the same episode. I know this limits your options, but this thread is not asking what character you wanted to see live longer or die sooner.
Ah okay, that makes it easier to get creative.
Well, since you already took the Jane one (sneaky bum lol), I'll go with... Sarah. I'm not entirely sure how they'd go about it, but if you were to go through all that dialogue and coaxing (although I'd really remove that slap they threw in during the trailer scene), then they really should've let her live on to at least episode five. She had a lot of potential to make a comeback with Clem's help to try and have a go at breaking away from her sheltered life, and giving her a more fleshed-out story arc might've given people more satisfaction than seeing her munched on underneath a pile of wood.
Same goes for Nick, really. They both got screwed.
Pretty much all of the determinant characters from season 1, 2 and 3 (except for Carly) were badly written off.
Yeah. I actually thought Carly's death was pretty good, but I wasn't a fan of Doug's. Lilly killing Carly on purpose made it much harder to decide whether to abandon Lilly. But when she accidentally shot Doug, knowing that it actually was Ben's fault after my first playthrough, I just kind of forgave Lilly.
I'm actually (almost) the opposite.
Sarah's deaths. The first one would've made more sense if Clem was pulled away instead of willingly leaving, and the second would've just made more sense in so many other ways.
Kenny. Not season 2 final but his New Frontier's fate.
Perfect way for Ken to had gone was with Ben but got retconned obviously. So many other trashy ways other characters got offed but Kenny was the worst for me for a well known great character.
Nick.
just have him meet up With Clem and Jane when they re looking for Sarah and Luke after that then just have him live up to the trailer and have him die gaining time for them to snap Sarah out of her breakdown.
Either: Kenny actually dies in season 1
or: Conrad falls off the roof and dies in Episode 2
It's been commonly said that Sarah's canon death() should've easily been held off until the end of the episode...and yeah, I agree.
In fact, I'd even go as far as to say it makes near perfect sense for that to happen if they absolutely had to kill her off in that episode(which they technically didn't, but that's another conversation). What's makes this unused scenario(and by extension, one of the many many problems with Sarah's death in general) more egregious is that would've more or less checked off a bunch of opportunity boxes at once. Like, it did always bother me how the episode where Sarah hits her lowest point after suddenly losing her dad is also the same episode to introduce Arvo as a [possible/determinate?] future antagonist, have her be suddenly killed off in the middle of an action sequence, and end in an escalating Mexican(ha) standoff between two groups--and [almost] none of these plot points coincide!
I’d pick Jane. While I️ hated that either way the choice you made in season two didn’t make a difference, her death in season three kinda pissed me off. I️ get that she didn’t want children but she was at least smart enough to know that unless she damages the brain, she would turn (which I️ think we all agree is a fate worse than death, at least for most people). I️ highly doubt she would ever have left Clementine to make the choice to actually put her down as a walker or just leave her there. It just made no sense. How that was a concept that someone came up with and everyone just agreed and it became canon is beyond me.
Kenny and Jane. I love both of their characters and they didn't deserve the crap, badly written, deaths they got.
Jane was very ooc bc I don't think she was stupid enough to just hang herself and not kill the brain. She cared a lot about Clem and I don't believe it was in her character to leave an 11 year old in charge of shooting her in the head.
I mean,,, Kenny's death was just pointless.. It seemed like they were rushing, and wanted him off the series, so they gave him the first death they thought of.
Even though she's been mentioned by a few on this discussion, I too wish to say Jane.
Jane's surprised cheap demise shook me to my core, more so than any character who has perished in the game. I can't explain it.
I had high hopes for her. I felt she and Clementine would make a fine team, that would last a long while. Even thought of the possibility of Jane regaining some of her humanity through Clementine and any news friends they would pick up.
Sadly, it will never be.
She...she could've said it to Clementine and asked if she felt lost. They were in it together.
I still can't believe it. Jane was better than that. Just no sense whatsoever.
If I were helping writing on the play through of ANF, based on the choice of going with Jane and letting the family in, the family will not and I REPEAT WILL not rob them blind. (Another issue of mine is not giving the family a proper chance to develop) Clementine and Jane would talk and Jane will mention later on in the episode after a couple of months gone by. Jane confesses her pregnancy and feels she doesn't know what to do. Clementine brings her to Randy, Gill and Patricia and tells them about her condition and asks for their help in what to do. (FYI that was all just off the top of my head).
Also, if not her, I'd have gone with either Nick or Sarah.
Still, whenever coming back to Jane, my heart is still damaged by the poor fate she was given.
And I still think, her fate be different:
Ben and Kenny just darn gone it why?!