Possible new companion for Clementine in S4?
Anyone? I know this might already sounds bullsh*t. Just my idea/concept. (This time its not a freaking dog..)
I mean what if its a new companion that Clementine can depend on? Maybe... someone new or someone she met during the early days... if its the first one.. then its like Javier... only flashbacks needed.. to tell the backstory of the character.. maybe.
If its the second option then a flashbacks with the motel survivors or with Lee... and Clem.
What are your opinions? Bad? I know.. HML
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I’d rather have her companion be a whole group like in S2 rather than one person. She can depend on most of the people in her new group if they’re trustworthy enough (and knowing Clem she’ll trust them after only 5 minutes of knowing them).
But if I had to choose one person in that group she can depend on the most, I’ll have it be someone around her age, someone she can relate to. Sort of like a Carl and Sophia type relationship from the comics (real close friends with small feelings for each other).
Well yea. That's pretty much the whole premise behind, Tristan, an OC that I and GohanFGC created for the Fanfic we've been working on for TFS thus far. The idea is that Clementine would meet him at the Mc Carroll ranch and is essentially a MALE Version of Herself to an extent. He would ALSO be the one whose put the most amount of effort into looking after AJ since Lingard dropped him off.
We all know that Alfred is going to be creeping up on Clementine next season
I think most of the good companions from the earlier seasons are either missing or dead but a new character around her age would be nice. Though, hopefully not another Gabe situation.
If she's going to have a companion, it should be one of two things:
I agree for the most part. Although if u wanna be technical about it, the whole Gabe situation wasn't really an Option Considering the fact that it was Non Determinant. That being said, I wouldn't necessarily be Opposed to another romance assuming it was Determinant (which it probably WOULD be since we're playing as Clementine anyway), and not Forced and Poorly Done as you said.
I agree 100%.
Actually, I think that The Final Season needs to have both things u mentioned. One Character should serve as the first thing, and Another Character should serve as the Second thing.
IT SHOULD'VE BEEN AVA
See, I'm of a mixed mindset when it comes to this topic.
On one hand, she does need someone to interact with at points during this "Final Season" or else it runs the risk of being inherently boring and empty for the sake of bragging it's all about her. A character that's actually the same age as her could work since they technically never really had that before(or in Gabe's case, seemingly retconed it for the sake of "tradition"). Or even better, either a [younger] boy(because we had an overflow of girls long before this point) or a new mother figure would be interesting changes of pace from what we've previously had in bulk. Personally, I've been wanting a character that actually conflicts with her on a personal level to deal with, but that's probably another matter entirely.
On the other hand, they've blown through so many different perfectly good supporting and conflicting characters that I honestly struggle to believe this new character wouldn't just be an uncomfortable rehash at some point. And going back to the same age thing, having them be there for a romance subplot(straight or bi-curious) like I've seen a select few people talking about would be really trite--especially given the "development" in ANF that was totally not an easy cover for a lack of anything of note for her to do in the later episodes. Not to mention that Clementine's character has been kinda up in the air as of late to put it nicely or something of a cynical joke to put not.
So all in all, she needs at least two different characters to bounce off of during the Final Season for any substantial character motivated drama to be had, but Telltale has their work cut out for them.
The second option I'm pointing out is maybe Lee and the group may have met this person... (at Clem's age I'm assuming and wanted to find a settlement on his own for some reason is my concept) I don't like the idea saying that he should be dead or missing like you said.
I just like to think like Clem in the alone ending of season 2 following up to Season 3 (ANF). She survived on her own, whilst taking care of AJ alone, I don't know if they come across some food supplies or what not. Just take the Alone ending for example and just staple it to the new companion if Telltale ever would want a new companion for Clem.
Maybe if you have anything to say 'bout this one, well go ahead
For:
It'd be nice to have a companion for Clem at her age.. maybe like Gabe but less "Gabe" but more of a "Lee". You see what I'm laying here?
If you don't get it this companion is much more protective of Clem and maybe like a Glenn and Maggie type of thing (except those scenes, don't like it :P)
You say someone younger, that's cute. But I kinda disagree about it. But I get what you put there. I know
I agree, give her two with at least one being her age (and maybe a surviving S1 character).
Indeed.
Someone understands
Yea. It's not all that different from what I stated further up. "A Male Version of Clementine" if you will.
I honestly don't know how I feel about this.
On one hand, I would kinda like another ensemble cast to interact with and learn about. But on the other, you run into several obvious issues where 1. we've had so many characters that there is an inherent risk of overlap(particularly with the everpresent Kenny-types and the trend of "lesser" older kids/youths), 2. having too many characters to sufficiently focus on at once was a recurring issue in Season 2, 3. the increasingly shorter episode lengths and weaker characterizations doesn't leave much room for hope, and 4. it runs the risks of overly distracting from the main plot and defeats the purpose of initially teasing the Final Season as "Clementine's Story."
Egh...read my post for general thought on this.
Who?
Well, technically, you could say it's technically determinate since nothing comes of it outside of the zigzaggy copout that is the Teamup to Save Richmond ending. And even that's limited to Janiacs.
Ugh, pass. Just sounds like a waste of time borne from ignoring the inherent problem.
What are you talking about here?
Yeah, that would've been neat. It's funny, because I originally thought Ava was a close friend and even a partner to Clementine(her answer to Kate) before the premiere dropped.
The way they handled Ava was shitty. What walker waits to attack?! There is so much that could've happened with her in TFS. I mean she could've even stayed with the Garcia's hunting down Joan (if that's what they plan to do) what a waste man
Ava has to be one of the only people that can be trusted to travel with Cleam 
But somehow a walker finds a way to unbuckle his seatbelt at the right time completely unbothered by Javi.
I kinda thought that too. Though it kinda made me somewhat worried about how Gabe would've reacted to it. Poor Kid woulda had his feelings hurt.
He’s one of Clementine’s friends from pre-apocalypse. He is determinantley mentioned in the drug store when you are moving the drawer with clem. I believe she mentions him when you choose the “do you need anything” option
Wait...are you for real?
Yeah, look it up somewhere. He’s probably on the wiki too for the unseen characters. Probably. But he was mentioned in my game, so yeah, I am for real
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Alfred_(Video_Game)
Yep, there he is
Oh! I see now! Lee was asking Clem if she had any Allergies or what-have-you. Clementine says "My Friend Alfred has a Peanut Allergy." That's pretty funny. Lel.
We're going off topic real fast now
Give us a kid character her age that she can open up to, but make them capable and not annoying unlike Sarah and Gabe.
I didn’t mean anyone in particular is dead or missing but the majority of people Clem has cared for are mostly gone for whatever reasons and at the end of season 2 she is only left with Kenny and Jane.
For your second point, taking not of:
Maybe Clem, when she’s on her own, comes across this companion and eventually begin to trust him or her. This is until someone like Christa who has a bad past with this person appears, leaving Clem torn between two sides. Just a thought, I’m not that creative.
Not really. What @Melton23 was saying was that Clem's friend Alfred (Or AL if u like) whom she mentioned to Lee could wind up being a potential companion for Clem in TFS. I actually like that idea because if a romance did wind up happening between them, it wouldn't be forced since they pretty much already knew eachother at one point. Very Good.
We should petition to see Alfred. Nice season 1 throwback that nobody will understand unless they have seen the dialogue
I would like to see another mentor character similar to how Lee, Jane, and Kenny taught Clem new skills. This character teaches Clementine new survival skills such as hunting, hand-to-hand combat, how to treat injuries and illness, etc. as well as sharpens Clem's preexisting survival skills. It would also be interesting to see another character who starts out kind of similiar to Gabe or Sara a weaker person who often makes hasty irrational decisions and can be a major liability but as the game progresses Clementine gets multiple choices to teach and shape the new character which results in the new character evolving into a different person. Such as the character becoming less of a liability, more of a liability, more sympathetic, less sympathetic, barely changing at all, etc.
Anymore opinions?
If I've gotta think up a type of companion for Clem, then right off the bat no forced romance. There can be romance, but for the love of almighty tuna god, no Gabe 2.0. If she can make a friend for life that's what matters most. If she can look at them and the word that instantly comes to mind is 'home', then even better.
They've gotta be cool [like, near to Molly of level cool, but not quite] and has to mostly know what they're doing when it comes to surviving, so they've got to be independent, and bring some useful [possibly new] skills aboard Clem can learn, and vice versa. They've gotta have some sense of humor about them too, something that'll work off of Clementine's serious nature and throw her through a few wtf loops at first--maybe piss her off on the odd occasion. Yet they've gotta have a likable quality about them so she's not shoving them at the first walker she sees.
They can be flawed, be overconfident sometimes in their capabilities and do stupid things within the range of their character if they think it for the right cause. Perhaps they're not great with people and can't talk themselves out of a bad spot, or are traumatized by something they need to overcome, or have a mental illness or disability of sorts.
Basically as long as they aren't a pansy, has a personality that works well with Clem's, and they aren't there for the body count, we're golden.
Hey, that's pretty much what @Cocoa2736 and I were talking about. This type of dynamic between them would be fantastic!
Oh god I just read what Coco posted. Yes to all of it! Where on earth did you guys find this personality test in particular? Can you please link it? It might help me with writing.
https://16personalities.com/ It's actually a very useful website.
Honestly, Clementine doesn't need anymore mentors or [male] parental figures in her life. Older sibling figures might also need to be strayed from due to Luke and Jane covering that base already. And Kenny and Javier more than filled the Uncle quota.
While I take umbridge with the term liability, that would indeed be a great way to redeem the determinant relationships system.
Make it a younger boy though. There's an overabundance of girls and there just straight up needs to be no more [major] kids/youths that are older than her. Ever. Again
Thank you
I know Clem is already quite capable on her own but it wouldn't hurt to see someone teach her new skills or at least sharpen her old skills to make her an even better survivor than she already is. I don't want a mentor who is constantly being her parental figure, she has already more than proven herself of being capable of raising herself now. The more I think of it, I actualy think it would be cool if a character who was both a mentor to Clem as well as a student. Let's say a character who isn't very good at defending his/or herself but is a very good doctor and/or good at fixing broken technology. That character teaches Clem how to treat injuries better and/or fix broken machines and in return Clementine teaches that person to better defend themselves so it is a relationship of mutual benefit.
I love you for that.
Would you agree that Clem is just one of those people who actually doesn't need anyone to travel with? Like me personally I think Clem herself is enough for everyone, simply because she can deliver on her own. If it had to be anyone it would definitely have to be Ava. She's the only one in my eyes who had potential to be one of the most loved.
@PapaHutDomino
Honestly, kinda hard to confidently say at this point. Her characterization is too up in the air to really gauge, especially right now.
Eh, the novelty has practically dried up at this point, if you ask me.
Like, I know Jane was supposed to be an indication of what she would end up like, but Jane was also an example of what she shouldn't be like.
I can agree that Ava would've been the right way to go. I've seen a few people lightly compare her Jane in the past and thinking about it, I suppose there is some similarity there--in a positive manner. Ava, despite arguably being more stoney in the present, is definitely more compassionate and patient while still being practical and [literally] strong(which makes my impression from that screenshot interestingly accurate).
With that said, my concern is admittedly less on whether the audience loves them and more on what they actually bring to the table in terms of drive and character dynamics. Not saying Ava wouldn't fit, though.