Do you expect your s2 ending to play a role in the final season? If not will you be disappointed?
We all know that Telltale dropped the ball when it came to making our s2 endings matter, but considering what a huge decision it was I think it would be wise for them to make it matter in the final season. Give Clementine opportunities to talk about them, let us see how she feels about it and how it has shaped her, hell even another flashback would be cool. I can understand why some players would want to leave it in the past and focus on her future, but it was such a divergent moment for the whole "My Clementine" theme that I hope it will still play a major factor besides just making Clem look slightly different. Not to mention we gotta have the Kenny's hat payoff.
What are your thoughts? Do you expect the s2 endings to be brought up in the final season? Will you be disappointed if they aren't? In your opinion, what is the best way Telltale could make them matter going forward?
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Normally I'd say that I'd be surprised if they even got a brief mention, which might very well be the case, but seeing's how we still have the AJ plotline to deal with, then... maybe.
I can't really see anything other than him having a major role that's continuing from season two, though. It'd be cool if they were to pull something, but I'm not holding out much hope this time. I've learned my lesson unfortunately.
It is unfortunate that nearly everyone has such low expectations at this point that they dont expect the final season to go above and beyond what we are used to, but I guess Telltale did this to themselves.
Yeah
I mean, the fact that they're bringing back at least one of the original season writers is at least a little uplifting, but it's gonna take more than one person to steer this boat around, y'know?
I've always wondered what this series would look like if the season one team had stayed at the helm this entire time. We shouldn't be putting them on a pedestal since everyone's bound to make a mistake every now and again, and maybe the nostalgia's blinding me to some flaws the original might've had, but it's interesting to think about.
I get your sentiment about it taking more than one person to turn this around, but lets hope they don't go overboard and start throwing 10 writers at each episode lol. I'm always going to be in favor of keeping original creators around to work on a series. S1 may not have been without its flaws, but it at least keeps the entries cohesive. You keep the original view without having new people who want to make their own impact with new ideas that risk derailing a good thing. Eventually there's so many people unfamiliar with the product that ideas get thrown at the wall and people see what sticks.
Topic at hand, I have no expectations as to them treating previous entries with any dignity after seeing ANF, let alone mentioning them. We'll probably pick up not long after ANF, and may get a passing reference to having travelled with others before. Probably no specifics or flashbacks, my expectations really only amount to assuming they'll treat this as a stand alone entry as well. Hopefully keeping that bar low will help with any potential disappointment, all I'm going in with is this will be a Clementine story.
I don't expect anything better.
Maybe, and no. It's not even something I consider pivotal for revisiting. What matters is the relationships Clem developed with people.
Kenny has finally been put to rest [by steel,] Jane is commuting with Not!Kur in a frozen hell, Edith may have been shot regardless if she was really unlucky, and I honestly have little concern about what happens with Clementine at this point, so I have little to no real reason to care.
Part of me would be a little happy if Edith did make it out, though.
If it didn't have a major role in ANF, I dont expect that for season 4.
Making those choices matter or not is basically what will determine if Telltale Games is either bringing us their best Season yet or just another good and acceptable Season. They have their fans looking up to them, everyone is involved with Clem's story, so now all they have left to do is come for the kill, they owe it to us to make those choices matter. They can do it by the way characters will act around each other, by bringing back a determinant character, by tailoring the story in a way so we can see how big of a difference it makes.
Precisely this. Faith in Telltale is practically nonexistent after ANF and the final season will determine their legacy and the legacy of TWD series. If they are smart they will go all-out on the final season, sparing no expense and making it as tailored and unique to each playthrough as humanly possible. If they cheap out, even once, that is all they will be remembered for. Their reputation and future as a gaming company hinges on how the final season goes.
I really hope they are reading this, because whether it's the forums or reddit or youtube, basically NOBODY trusts them to make a decent game anymore. They feel betrayed by ANF and rightfully so. The final season needs to make the s2 endings matter at the very least or people will just see it as more of the same streamlined bs. Seriously, people have basically written them off as a viable gaming company but are going to stick it out for Clementine's story. This is probably their one chance to turn their reputation around.
Indeed, they ought to do it the right way. Just like Lee back in Season One, Telltale Games needs to redeem itself and Season Four is its only shot.
Uh, is this really warranted?
They makes games beside The Walking Dead, dude. Like, I realize the fact that their bread and butter being licensed games is sustestance for razz in and of itself, but it's still a market that's wide open like Cartman's mom. And while I haven't played their other games(with Batman still being on my backlog to actually start), most of them were pretty well-made and/or worthy of their respective retinue from what I hear.
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Actually, I would argue that Batman Season 2 deserves MORE than its getting. It's not making NEARLY as much money as it otherwise would. The main reason being that people simply don't trust Telltale enough to be willing to get it, regardless of how GOOD it is. Even QUALITY products don't sell well if consumer confidence is low.
Even though their other games are worthy of attention (like Batman s2 especially), the sales are dismal and show that people are fed up with the Telltale formula after ANF. People aren't even giving the new series a chance based on what they experienced from Telltale but they're going to play s4 due to Clementine, hence the reason why the final season is so crucial to redeeming themselves as a company.
Exactly this
Hm.
Eh, after the absurdity that was S1, S2 of Batman gave me pause, and its handling of the characters hasn't improved much. I can't speak for Guardians, don't care for the series in any medium, but TTs just done a poor job with the franchises. Dabigs not wrong about it there being a market for the games, both Heavy Rain and Until Dawn saw considerable success with releases limited to a single platform. TWD S1 and 2, TWAU, Tales, they all seemed to know what audience they were going after. ANF, Batman, they're just being made and marketed on the hope the name alone will sell it, not the quality of the game or its characters. Minecraft just completely missed the mark. I'm not sure who it was made for, it's a franchise with a very specific appeal to the audiences it draws.
I'd say there will be more references, maybe one more flashback (though I'm quite doubtful on that) but no, I don't think the Season Two ending will matter too much in The Final Season.
I would actually like it if the s1 ending had some role to play. I feel like it had a bigger impact than the s2 ending I got (Kenny, Wellington). But no I would not be disappointed but I don't ever imagine that it's going to be anything else than a reference or two friend's talking about memories.
The final season might be good, but I don’t think the S2 endings will be important at all ... maybe some flashbacks only.
Honestly i don't know why anyone is expecting S2 to play any role in the final season when it nearly had next to no impact in ANF and was completely zeroed out by ANF.
Because making them obsolete in ANF was a big mistake and Telltale knows it, therefore if they want a meaningful final season they will fix the mistake
I want to see kennys hat
At this point i don't see how S2 could make that much of a difference in S4 if telltale tried. Kenny&Jane are both dead plus Clementine is the same character with the same path throughout ANF into S4 regardless of S2. Not to mention Luke's entire group is dead, Wellington is destroyed, Jane's baby is dead, Kenny is ultimately killed and AJ's fate is the same despite S2's endings. Besides bringing Christa back or some minor choices theres not much that can be continued from S2 into S4. Telltale completely screwed any choices of S2 being a major factor in ANF which in result rendered S2's endings absolutely meaningless.
I'm not saying it should make a huge difference, but I'm saying it should still matter and change Clementine's motivations for finding AJ. For example, when Kenny was about to die I promised him that I would take good care of AJ and he said he wouldn't trust anyone else with AJ. That promise should be brought up by Clementine at the very least. Also, lots of people who stayed in Wellington kept Kenny's hat in the hopes of fulfilling Kenny's wishes to let AJ wear it when he is older. Small details, but important to each person's Clementine nonetheless.
And the people who ended up with Jane...?
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A Clementine who ended up with Jane should have some trust issues at the very least and be more conflicted about whether having a baby is a viable option in the apocalypse. Maybe she tries scratching or burning off her tattoo at some point, I don't know. I never ever got this ending so I'm not as attuned to what they would expect.
Youtube is a thing, you know. That's how I experienced some of my initial ...experiences and From the Gallows.
Hur dur thanks for the intelligent comment. I know what happens in those endings, I'm saying that i don't know how it actually feels to be part of those arcs so i can't attest to how I'd like to see it play out as well.
Ah, gotcha.
yes. yes i fucking do