If this particular scenario absolutely has to come up, either have Clementine finally get into an actual fight she has to win like a real woman, for Pete's sake. Or, if we can't grant that wish(at least with him; fingers crossed otherwise), probably just shoot him in the opposite/same shoulder for karmic irony. It's like poetry--it rhymes.
The truth of the matter is Arvo was just a minor inconvenience ultimately and given how ANF concluded what was apparently Clementine's arc in that installment, some hardcore revenge would be doubly OOC and self-defeating. It's telling that something as nominally serious as getting shot in the shoulder by a rifle barely affects Clementine outside of her shoulder being a little sore but apparently easy to ignore and it isn't even referenced in A New Frontier where any type of lingering thought about it would've been relevant. Honestly, I just don't see anything really happening involving him in general, which is something of a shame but a acceptable one at this point.
Either way, it'd really depend on both Clementine's characterization(pfft!) and Arvo's hypothetical role, really.
This is a tough one cause Clem has really changed over the years. But I think she's over it now. If she does happen to come across him again in S4, she'll most likely be in shock/disbelief. Same goes for Arvo. But if Telltale makes our Clem become this edgy-loner-teen-sruvivor, she'd kill him then wallow over it for a few days. But if it's the Clem we knew, she'd avoid him and let him be.
This is a tough one cause Clem has really changed over the years. But I think she's over it now. If she does happen to come across him again… more in S4, she'll most likely be in shock/disbelief. Same goes for Arvo. But if Telltale makes our Clem become this edgy-loner-teen-sruvivor, she'd kill him then wallow over it for a few days. But if it's the Clem we knew, she'd avoid him and let him be.
But I think she's over it now.
If she ever...under it to begin with.
If she does happen to come across him again in S4, she'll most likely be in shock/disbelief.
Sorry, not sorry.
I’ll fucking murder that piece of shit, along with Mike and (determinant) Bonnie if they’re still with him. I wanted to kill him since he sent his group to attack us, every dialogue or choice I had towards Arvo in Episode 5 was directed towards getting him killed. Him shooting me was just icing on top of the murder cake that Telltale was refusing to hand out. Thankfully, even after all these years, that cake still looks delicious, and I want it all to myself.
I’ll fucking murder that piece of shit, along with Mike and (determinant) Bonnie if they’re still with him. I wanted to kill him since he sent his group to attack us
I’ll fucking murder that piece of shit, along with Mike and (determinant) Bonnie if they’re still with him. I wanted to kill him since he se… morent his group to attack us, every dialogue or choice I had towards Arvo in Episode 5 was directed towards getting him killed. Him shooting me was just icing on top of the murder cake that Telltale was refusing to hand out. Thankfully, even after all these years, that cake still looks delicious, and I want it all to myself.
I wouldn't mind seeing him, it's just that that involves them actually doing something with him and honestly, not only is there the pigeonhole issue to deal with but there's also the facts that bringing him back could prove be a considerable distraction from ...whatever the heck they're gonna come up with to make The Final Season interesting.
LOL dude it's such a dramatic scene but I couldn't stop laughing the imagery. How did you think of this lol.
It's literally the first thing that came to mind when you said that. It helps that Brainscratchcomms did a commentary of it two or three months ago.
If she ever...under it to begin with.
Same. I'd live without seeing him. But some people just still have that grudge and the "DoN't … moretOuCH mAh cLeAm" thing going on lol.
Sorry, not sorry.
LOL dude it's such a dramatic scene but I couldn't stop laughing the imagery. How did you think of this lol.
1. Sent his group implies he wasn't there
2. They weren't there to attack them
3. The whole "Rob the entire group back" thing was Buricko's idea and apparently decided on the spot at that
I’ll fucking murder that piece of shit, along with Mike and (determinant) Bonnie if they’re still with him. I wanted to kill him since he se… morent his group to attack us, every dialogue or choice I had towards Arvo in Episode 5 was directed towards getting him killed. Him shooting me was just icing on top of the murder cake that Telltale was refusing to hand out. Thankfully, even after all these years, that cake still looks delicious, and I want it all to myself.
I've never really played Clem as a vengeful type of person, so while I doubt they'd ever be on good terms, more than anything I think she'd rather just walk away and keep herself from having anything to do with him. She'd have more important things to worry about anyways.
Honestly, I'd rather not see a scenario where Arvo is bought back in the Final Season just for a chance of vengeance. I just don't care for how Arvo was written in No Going Back to justify the treatment he had received from Kenny.
His character was handled in a way to cheaply justify taking a random disabled foreigner hostage for a crime that they not be fully responsible for due to his side of the story never being told, and beat him senseless if he dares to open his mouth when he shouldn't, until he snaps and shoots Clementine in retaliation over Kenny's abuse, and his own perceived vengeance of how he saw a young girl shoot down his wounded sister in cold blood.
If I were to be frank, this is basically similar to how Life is Strange tries to justify Chloe stealing from a handicapped fund from a school she doesn't like to pay off a loan from a drug dealer, only more extreme.
Honestly, I'd rather not see a scenario where Arvo is bought back in the Final Season just for a chance of vengeance.
I just don't care for how Arvo was written in No Going Back to justify the treatment he had received from Kenny.
His character was handled in a way to cheaply justify taking a random disabled foreigner hostage for a crime that they not be fully responsible for due to his side of the story never being told, and beat him senseless if he dares to open his mouth when he shouldn't, until he snaps and shoots Clementine in retaliation over Kenny's abuse, and his own perceived vengeance of how he saw a young girl shoot down his wounded sister in cold blood.
Agreed.
Not to mention that it was yet another instance of plot/character/story material for Clementine being shortchanged and/or transplanted in favor of Kenny.
If I were to be frank, this is basically similar to how Life is Strange tries to justify Chloe stealing from a handicapped fund from a school she doesn't like to pay off a loan from a drug dealer, only more extreme.
Oh, nice. Something to look forward to if I ever get around to watching that actually game.
Honestly, I'd rather not see a scenario where Arvo is bought back in the Final Season just for a chance of vengeance. I just don't care for … morehow Arvo was written in No Going Back to justify the treatment he had received from Kenny.
His character was handled in a way to cheaply justify taking a random disabled foreigner hostage for a crime that they not be fully responsible for due to his side of the story never being told, and beat him senseless if he dares to open his mouth when he shouldn't, until he snaps and shoots Clementine in retaliation over Kenny's abuse, and his own perceived vengeance of how he saw a young girl shoot down his wounded sister in cold blood.
If I were to be frank, this is basically similar to how Life is Strange tries to justify Chloe stealing from a handicapped fund from a school she doesn't like to pay off a loan from a drug dealer, only more extreme.
I'd live without seeing him.
I wouldn't mind seeing him, it's just that that involves them actually doing something with him and hon… moreestly, not only is there the pigeonhole issue to deal with but there's also the facts that bringing him back could prove be a considerable distraction from ...whatever the heck they're gonna come up with to make The Final Season interesting.
LOL dude it's such a dramatic scene but I couldn't stop laughing the imagery. How did you think of this lol.
It's literally the first thing that came to mind when you said that. It helps that Brainscratchcomms did a commentary of it two or three months ago.
I just don't hate Arvo. Also, I do think he's a teenager and I think his resentment towards Clementine was somewhat justified. Not to the extent where they had to fight each other, but that was not all on Arvo. But, really, I'm not trying to start anything.
the most vengeance id do would be stealing supplies from him but still letting him go because i never kill a character that is determinant since i play the walking dead games with the mindset of keeping every character alive for as much time as possible no matter what the game wants me to do.
the most vengeance id do would be stealing supplies from him but still letting him go because i never kill a character that is determinant … moresince i play the walking dead games with the mindset of keeping every character alive for as much time as possible no matter what the game wants me to do.
the most vengeance id do would be stealing supplies from him
You sure you wanna do that, pal?
i play the walking dead games w… moreith the mindset of keeping every character alive for as much time as possible no matter what the game wants me to do.
Same.
Or usually, anyway. I can't really think of any particular exception though.
I think his resentment towards Clementine was somewhat justified.
Do you seriously want an angry Kenny mob after you on this forum?!?!?!? I'm convinced you do Shampa!!
But, really, I'm not trying to start anything.
No way lol, condoning Arvo shooting Clem but not condoning Kenny for kicking his butt is sooo not gonna help I bet if Bonnie, Mike & Arvo stayed and Kenny found out what he did and ultimately gave him the Carver treatment, you'd call him a monster. Tsk tsk tsk.
I just don't hate Arvo. Also, I do think he's a teenager and I think his resentment towards Clementine was somewhat justified. Not to the ex… moretent where they had to fight each other, but that was not all on Arvo. But, really, I'm not trying to start anything.
Noo way. Too quick & easy Clem didn't get shot a pass out instantly, she had enough time to actually feel it. Arvo deserves a slow and passionate death imo .
Oh, nice. Something to look forward to if I ever get around to watching that actually game.
Recently I've had a realization that Chloe Price from Life is Strange is remarkably similar to Kenny in quite a lot of ways. They both even have a complex about certain people not backing them up 100%!
Oh, well then, it would technically be getting even.
@RichWalk23 Recently I've had a realization that Chloe Price from Life is Strange is remarkably similar to Kenny in quite a lot of ways. They both even have a complex about certain people not backing them up 100%!
Yeah, I recall @RavenSnowstorm saying something to that effect.
Oh, nice. Something to look forward to if I ever get around to watching that actually game.
Recently I've had a realization that Chl… moreoe Price from Life is Strange is remarkably similar to Kenny in quite a lot of ways. They both even have a complex about certain people not backing them up 100%!
I dont remember the whole episode between Clem and Arvo except a bits and pieces but i dont think i would have any vengeance on him i guess it would depend on how the scene would pla out and the dialogue between them. Lily is another matter, but even then i would prefer not to shoot her.
I would fucking murder him, zero mercy. Mike and Bonnie as well because their betrayal was almost worse than shooting Clem. We trusted them, Rebecca trusted them with her child, and they were willing to leave the kids to starve and die. It's completely unforgivable but you just know they would give us some sob story if we find them again. Fuck that they're dying painfully.
I don't see any potential in bringing Arvo back. It seems 90% of the fanbase wants him dead, so not having a "kill him mercilessly" option is completely out of the table. To bring a character back just so the fans go "fuck yeah, shot straight in the face XD" and have it most likely be something with no repercussion on any other character and completely unrelated to the season's plot is just pointless and unnecessary.
If he did show up, I'd like an option to avoid him/get away from him completely.
I would like an option to have him be eaten by walkers like Clem incapacitates him and lets walkers eat him. Just saying you know Clementine did nothing wrong to him if anything she saved Arvo and saved his sister.
I would like an option to have him be eaten by walkers like Clem incapacitates him and lets walkers eat him. Just saying you know Clementine did nothing wrong to him if anything she saved Arvo and saved his sister.
I hated Arvo and sided with Kenny because he is the most protective of the group. He would not let AJ out of his sight and still cared about Clementine. I could not find any reason to have sympathy on Arvo since I knew he was going to betray the group or send them to an ambush.
Just saying you know Clementine did nothing wrong to him if anything she saved Arvo and saved his sister.
Too bad that quickly killed said sister and got Arvo abused for two days by the increasingly unstable Kenny.
Granted, I'm sure that if he played a similar role in the projected version of No Going Back, it's possible that he had a greater group liking in the church/town who would've gotten hostile the moment they saw the group, but whatever.
I hated Arvo and sided with Kenny because he is the most protective of the group. He would not let AJ out of his sight and still cared about… more Clementine. I could not find any reason to have sympathy on Arvo since I knew he was going to betray the group or send them to an ambush.
Well to be honest why did they spare Arvo? Because of plot. The Kenny that I know from Season 1 would've taken out Arvo and my Clementine did not speak to the group after this literally anytime they talked to me or asked me to do something I would click the silent option because I know that they are being stupid by keeping an enemy with them and then feeling sympathy for him when he ambushed Clementine and her group even though I did not take medicine from him.
Neither of which technically happened.
Granted, I'm sure that if he played a similar role in the projected version of No Going Back, it's… more possible that he had a greater group liking in the church/town who would've gotten hostile the moment they saw the group, but whatever.
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Personally, likely nothing if I can help it.
If this particular scenario absolutely has to come up, either have Clementine finally get into an actual fight she has to win like a real woman, for Pete's sake. Or, if we can't grant that wish(at least with him; fingers crossed otherwise), probably just shoot him in the opposite/same shoulder for karmic irony. It's like poetry--it rhymes.
The truth of the matter is Arvo was just a minor inconvenience ultimately and given how ANF concluded what was apparently Clementine's arc in that installment, some hardcore revenge would be doubly OOC and self-defeating. It's telling that something as nominally serious as getting shot in the shoulder by a rifle barely affects Clementine outside of her shoulder being a little sore but apparently easy to ignore and it isn't even referenced in A New Frontier where any type of lingering thought about it would've been relevant. Honestly, I just don't see anything really happening involving him in general, which is something of a shame but a acceptable one at this point.
Either way, it'd really depend on both Clementine's characterization(pfft!) and Arvo's hypothetical role, really.
This is a tough one cause Clem has really changed over the years. But I think she's over it now. If she does happen to come across him again in S4, she'll most likely be in shock/disbelief. Same goes for Arvo. But if Telltale makes our Clem become this edgy-loner-teen-sruvivor, she'd kill him then wallow over it for a few days. But if it's the Clem we knew, she'd avoid him and let him be.
I would let Clementine skin him alive.
If she ever...under it to begin with.
Sorry, not sorry.
Same. I'd live without seeing him. But some people just still have that grudge and the "DoN't tOuCH mAh cLeAm" thing going on lol.
LOL dude it's such a dramatic scene but I couldn't stop laughing
the imagery. How did you think of this lol.
I like the way you think.
I’ll fucking murder that piece of shit, along with Mike and (determinant) Bonnie if they’re still with him. I wanted to kill him since he sent his group to attack us, every dialogue or choice I had towards Arvo in Episode 5 was directed towards getting him killed. Him shooting me was just icing on top of the murder cake that Telltale was refusing to hand out. Thankfully, even after all these years, that cake still looks delicious, and I want it all to myself.
ALL OF THIS
Hey @ShampaFK
Ahem, orchestrated by Jane..
I wouldn't mind seeing him, it's just that that involves them actually doing something with him and honestly, not only is there the pigeonhole issue to deal with but there's also the facts that bringing him back could prove be a considerable distraction from ...whatever the heck they're gonna come up with to make The Final Season interesting.
It's literally the first thing that came to mind when you said that. It helps that Brainscratchcomms did a commentary of it two or three months ago.
1. Sent his group implies he wasn't there
2. They weren't there to attack them
3. The whole "Rob the entire group back" thing was Buricko's idea and apparently decided on the spot at that
Misplaced hate.
...
I've never really played Clem as a vengeful type of person, so while I doubt they'd ever be on good terms, more than anything I think she'd rather just walk away and keep herself from having anything to do with him. She'd have more important things to worry about anyways.
Honestly, I'd rather not see a scenario where Arvo is bought back in the Final Season just for a chance of vengeance. I just don't care for how Arvo was written in No Going Back to justify the treatment he had received from Kenny.
His character was handled in a way to cheaply justify taking a random disabled foreigner hostage for a crime that they not be fully responsible for due to his side of the story never being told, and beat him senseless if he dares to open his mouth when he shouldn't, until he snaps and shoots Clementine in retaliation over Kenny's abuse, and his own perceived vengeance of how he saw a young girl shoot down his wounded sister in cold blood.
If I were to be frank, this is basically similar to how Life is Strange tries to justify Chloe stealing from a handicapped fund from a school she doesn't like to pay off a loan from a drug dealer, only more extreme.
Agreed.
Not to mention that it was yet another instance of plot/character/story material for Clementine being shortchanged and/or transplanted in favor of Kenny.
Oh, nice. Something to look forward to if I ever get around to watching that actually game.
I want to flag him alive and feed him his own torn off skin
Oh no doubt about it. If things happen to get too hectic in the writer's room, I can definitely see "anything Arvo" being used as a crutch.
Perfect placement
And so it begins lol
I just don't hate Arvo. Also, I do think he's a teenager and I think his resentment towards Clementine was somewhat justified. Not to the extent where they had to fight each other, but that was not all on Arvo. But, really, I'm not trying to start anything.
the most vengeance id do would be stealing supplies from him but still letting him go because i never kill a character that is determinant since i play the walking dead games with the mindset of keeping every character alive for as much time as possible no matter what the game wants me to do.
You sure you wanna do that, pal?
Same.
Or usually, anyway. I can't really think of any particular exception though.
i dint first time thought and he still called his group on me so might as well just take the supplies this time.
THIS!!!!
Do you seriously want an angry Kenny mob after you on this forum?!?!?!? I'm convinced you do Shampa!!
No way lol, condoning Arvo shooting Clem but not condoning Kenny for kicking his butt is sooo not gonna help
I bet if Bonnie, Mike & Arvo stayed and Kenny found out what he did and ultimately gave him the Carver treatment, you'd call him a monster. Tsk tsk tsk.
Noo way. Too quick & easy
Clem didn't get shot a pass out instantly, she had enough time to actually feel it. Arvo deserves a slow and passionate death imo 
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Recently I've had a realization that Chloe Price from Life is Strange is remarkably similar to Kenny in quite a lot of ways. They both even have a complex about certain people not backing them up 100%!
Oh, well then, it would technically be getting even.
Yeah, I recall @RavenSnowstorm saying something to that effect.
I hadn't made that connection, but it does not surprise me. I hate both characters.
I dont remember the whole episode between Clem and Arvo except a bits and pieces but i dont think i would have any vengeance on him i guess it would depend on how the scene would pla out and the dialogue between them. Lily is another matter, but even then i would prefer not to shoot her.
I would fucking murder him, zero mercy. Mike and Bonnie as well because their betrayal was almost worse than shooting Clem. We trusted them, Rebecca trusted them with her child, and they were willing to leave the kids to starve and die. It's completely unforgivable but you just know they would give us some sob story if we find them again. Fuck that they're dying painfully.
hmph
I don't see any potential in bringing Arvo back. It seems 90% of the fanbase wants him dead, so not having a "kill him mercilessly" option is completely out of the table. To bring a character back just so the fans go "fuck yeah, shot straight in the face XD" and have it most likely be something with no repercussion on any other character and completely unrelated to the season's plot is just pointless and unnecessary.
If he did show up, I'd like an option to avoid him/get away from him completely.
I would like an option to have him be eaten by walkers like Clem incapacitates him and lets walkers eat him. Just saying you know Clementine did nothing wrong to him if anything she saved Arvo and saved his sister.
Too bad that quickly killed said sister and got Arvo abused for two days by the increasingly unstable Kenny.
I hated Arvo and sided with Kenny because he is the most protective of the group. He would not let AJ out of his sight and still cared about Clementine. I could not find any reason to have sympathy on Arvo since I knew he was going to betray the group or send them to an ambush.
Neither of which technically happened.
Granted, I'm sure that if he played a similar role in the projected version of No Going Back, it's possible that he had a greater group liking in the church/town who would've gotten hostile the moment they saw the group, but whatever.
Well to be honest why did they spare Arvo? Because of plot. The Kenny that I know from Season 1 would've taken out Arvo and my Clementine did not speak to the group after this literally anytime they talked to me or asked me to do something I would click the silent option because I know that they are being stupid by keeping an enemy with them and then feeling sympathy for him when he ambushed Clementine and her group even though I did not take medicine from him.