Which Season is the best? [discussion]
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I'm wondering what people think. I have my answer, but I'll wait to give it. Let's go.
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Well obviously the first season is the best,i actually can't wait for the final season and take control of Clementine again,i'm sure they can do better than season 2 and 3.Seriously there's no way season 4 is worse than season 3 at this point.
Season 1. It had such an atmosphere... There were many interactions between characters, you felt like you were in charge of something. Lee was a smart, down to earth guy who was a good guy who was able to do bad things to protect Clementine and the group. He had a difficult background which you learn about as you go. Lee may be the smartest guy of the TT TWD series so far, honestly. Carver was an interesting character, so I wonder why they got rid of him like that and why they made him go from a balanced, clever individual to a pure evil unstable guy.
But yeah I'd definitely say S1 - S2 - S3 in that order.
It's like you said Telltale's problems are the different writers used for each episode,you can see that in season 2,they were probably going for another direction with Carver,and it was obvious the fight at the end was supposed to be Kenny Vs Luke or Save Luke or Kenny,but the writers thought that doing something unpredictable is better.
But yeah i didn't found that "atmosphere" we had in season 1 and 2,when i was playing Javier.
Oh definitely Season 1, followed by S2 and then S3! I have a feeling that even if S4 is bad, it can't really be worse than S3 haha
I'm currently playing through the games again in the lead up to this new season so it's all fresh in my mind, right now I'm at Season 2 Episode 3. From doing this I've realised how dramatically different the writing for the first and most recent games really is.
In the first season it consistently takes breaks, allowing the player to talk to the characters around them and find out more about them (if they chose to do so) allowing them to have a stronger connection to the characters when they inevitably die (and adding replayability as next time you play you may discover things you never found about them last time around). On the other hand S3 makes very little attempts to do this, so when the characters die you really just don't care. The only character death I can say had an effect on me was Mariana (the only other character name I remember other than Javier and Clem) but that was only because she was a little girl and it was a shocking death from out of nowhere!
The writers for this coming season appear to be competent though, and after TellTale's recent staff cut downs they are probably going to be able to concentrate more on making this game as in depth and fresh as the first season... hopefully haha (p.s. I read somewhere that this new game was going to be bringing back the hub areas that I just wrote about, can anyone confirm this? Thanks a lot :)x)
I think you're right.
In terms of quality and enjoyment, S1 is slightly ahead of S2 for me, followed by every trip to the dentist I've ever taken, waiting in the ER for 4 hours, the time I forgot my Ellios in the oven and tried to eat it despite it being burnt black, and then ANF. That order.
"Seriously there's no way season 4 is worse than season 3 at this point."
Season 1 was the best for me. Everything about it just worked, and its really that simple. Season 2 was really good and I enjoyed it a lot, it wasnt better than Season 1 but I found it to be a good continuation of Clem's story after Season 1.
I wish A New Frontier wasnt considered a season.
Season One (original release), but mostly because it knew how to deliver:
*its story
*its gameplay
*its characters
*its music (although I do wish more of the tracks were memorable)
The closest any other season got was Michonne with its characters.
I've definitely got a soft spot for season 2 thanks to the cabin crew and Jane, but really, the original has gotta be the best. It was well thought out, the hubs were the most detailed and explorable that they've ever been, and the ending tied things up in a sad, yet satisfying way.
I like season 2 the best, simply for the experience it gave me, playing as Clementine was a great way to experience the zombie apocalypse IMO, I recognize that Season 1 had a superior cast, atmosphere and characterization, but the experience for me was better in season 2, its one of the games I have been the most immersed in because I enjoyed it so much
Season 1, easily.
In terms of quality Season 1 was the best. But I’m in the minority here, I enjoyed Michonne out of all the games. Because of it’s plot, atmosphere, characterisation and just PAIGE.
Breaking the unlucky streak by replying with the protacted answer.
I mean, it's just kinda is that way and will probably always be. Even if Season 2 conceptual speaking was shaping up to be an even better sequel and many of its characters probably beat the shit out of some of the Original Generation's on that same level, Season 1 did what it did, stuck to its guns, and left a somewhat monumental impact--and it did well.
Season 1 was the best due to the amount of character interaction and development, explorable hubs, consistency in episode length and quality, and having a cohesive story start to finish. You can tell that they knew exactly what story they wanted to tell from the beginning and that their hearts and souls were put into making it.
Season 2 was also great but ran into problems with the rewrites and episode length. I enjoyed Michonne for being a self-contained adventure but having a comic book character for protagonist was a bit gimmicky.
I would like to say Season 1 so as to not sound like a noob, but the atmosphere of Season 2 has always had a soft spot on my heart. It was the first video game I played through in just one day.
I feel like this is half of Telltale's problem. They dont truly plan out the story anymore. Season 1 worked so well because they knew exactly how they wanted it to end. They didnt just wing it. Season 2 went through a lot of changes through development but it did have an actual plot that was meant to stretch across the season from day 1. It changed a lot but at least that original plan was still here in some type of way. Then ANF came with releasing episode 1 and 2, and then later being confirmed by Melissa Hutchinson that episode 3 didn't even have a script by the time episode 2 finished and even then every day she came in to recorded the script was changed AGAIN. ANF was pretty much doomed from the start simply because they had no idea where the hell they were going with the story from day 1.
They weren't planning on killing Lee until episode 3 i think
Well, this has certainly gone the exact way I thought it would.
For me, it'd be S1... although S2 is in a very, very, VERY close second. Some people consider S2 inferior to S1, and I can totally get why, and while I do think S1 is just a tad bit better, I enjoyed S2 on almost the exact same level as I did S1. For me, the difference is pretty much S1 having 1 or 2 more characters/scenes that I liked than S2, to put it as simply as I can.
Then third place goes to Michonne. And I will stick by the opinion that this series is dreadfully underrated, and nothing will sway me from this feeling. It was extremely short, the way choices were handled (mainly in ep 3) wasn't the best, but its pretty clear the team working on it had a vision. I can respect a team that tells the story they want to tell, the best that they can within whatever constraints they have.
Then good old ANF comes in last, unsurprisingly. Now, some people here might know that I actually don't loathe ANF, but that doesn't mean I consider it the cream of the crop. ANF at a baseline was enjoyable enough, but the level of investment I had in it compared to the other three games? Definitely not on the same level. I don't think it's woefully terrible, but it's definitely the weakest outing thus far. And given the fact that it had a pretty troubled development cycle (to say the absolute least), it isn't really a surprise. For all the problems people cite S2 as having, the team working on it still seemed to have a general idea where they were going in the end. Even if the story got knocked off course a little bit around the middle, they found a way to wrap it back around into a good finale, at least in my opinion.
ANF on the other hand, it felt like the plot was the victim of a game of hot potato a few times-- there's elements between episodes that definitely seem to shift. Going back to S2, even if it suffered from a similar thing, it happened on a much smaller scale in comparison. If you took any episode of S2, then tried to predict a 'trajectory' of where the story would go, it'd probably land in the same basic spot. If you did the same with ANF though, that trajectory would probably fall in wildly different areas, particularly if you are looking at episode 2 and episode 3. Seems like the biggest shift on where things were going happened between these two.
Take the New Frontier: our encounters with them in the first two episodes paints them as being this roaming group of raiders/marauders. Then when we get to episode 3, its revealed that, as a matter of fact, that's not what they're like at all-- it's a full-fledged community of relatively normal people, and the particular group of guys we ran into were part of this splinter group/militant faction. Now, that development isn't inherently bad. In fact, I think it's a rather interesting turn of events. The problem is, episodes 1 and 2 don't really leave any hints that things were going in such a direction. Quite frankly, it just kind of happened. And I think that's a much worse shift than say, Carver in episode 2 suddenly becoming more angry and evil in episode 3. If anything, you could make a few arguments in regards to Carver-- all the things he does in episode 3, he basically did in episode 2 as well; manipulation, torture, murder, subjugation... you name it. I'd argue that the Carver we see in episode 3 is more the 'true' Carver, while the one we saw in episode 2 was more calm and calculating because he wasn't in complete control. Him playing things a bit more intelligently/conservatively when he's not lording over his castle makes sense, don't you think?
But again, with ANF, you don't really have the luxury of a similar argument. There's just not as much ground or reasoning to base it upon. There were basic hints of a 'higher up' in episode 2 ("We don't have the go ahead!"), but not to a degree that suggests there was a functioning community behind the foot soldiers we ran into. Or take Jesus mentioning that the New Frontier 'took over' Richmond. The way he talks about it, he makes it sound hostile. Like they came in, forced whoever was there out, and took over. But the fact that it's a functioning community in episode 3 would seem to suggest that this 'take over' wasn't as hostile as it was being made out to be.
But enough of all that, this is just going off topic at this point.
TL;DR for anyone out there intimidated by all this text:
S1 > S2 > Michonne > ANF
No,i think what you said was interesting and it's not really off topic for me.
I concur with most of this.
They weren't planning on doing a season 2 until episode 3, they decided Lee was going to die from the start of development though