I dont think that you have to be a mastermind and need a lot education to search for things like photos, tracks, reading letters etc. ... Also good to know that iam not everyone because I didnt hate the flashbacks of Clem to get to know more about how she came to this point of the story. But I agree it was useless to the story (of the Garcias). ... And I didnt thought that TT wrote in blacke&white but the fanbase reactions (like yours with Jane now) are that way too often.
I just never really been a supporter of Jane because she is one of those characters trying to lead Clem down the path of not doing the right thing and she was always looking out for herself that is why she left Clem and AJ in A New Frontier she couldn't handle having a child that reminded her of Luke or the pain that comes from childbirth so the writers made it clear that she was a selfish person and left Clementine alone. Also doesn't she do nothing to help Clem in the later episode flashback I never played A New Frontier with the Jane ending so I don't know. Also when you said make Clementine have more detective scenes I thought you meant like Batman or The Wolf Among Us where you have to link clues and deduce what happened. Well I did like that the flashbacks made us play as Clem but it would've been better if it was just Clem's story and not Javier's unless he is going to be an ally in The Final Season.
I dont think that you have to be a mastermind and need a lot education to search for things like photos, tracks, reading letters etc. ... Al… moreso good to know that iam not everyone because I didnt hate the flashbacks of Clem to get to know more about how she came to this point of the story. But I agree it was useless to the story (of the Garcias). ... And I didnt thought that TT wrote in blacke&white but the fanbase reactions (like yours with Jane now) are that way too often.
Also the flashbacks are part of why everyone hated A New Frontier because the flashbacks added nothing to the story and didn't really effect the outcome of the game just who Clem was going to help.
I wouldn't just presume the flashbacks will be bad because of the ones in ANF, this time they might actually have meaning and influence decisions Clem makes. Besides, I think the main reason people didn't like them was because of the way Kenny or Jane died.
I'm inclined to disagree with what you are saying about The Final Season. Clementine is like thirteen years old who was only in first grade … morewhen the zombie apocalypse happened. I see no way of Clem being a detective and deducing any clues about the ranch or people there. Also the flashbacks are part of why everyone hated A New Frontier because the flashbacks added nothing to the story and didn't really effect the outcome of the game just who Clem was going to help. Another thing is I believe that all the characters in TellTale's game are not black or white but somewhere in he gray section which is how the characters remain realistic. I always liked Kenny more than Jane because Kenny is similar to Rick in terms of doing the hard things to protect the group. Jane is just annoying to me she is always trying to manipulate Clem into leaving Kenny because she is scared of Kenny just as the rest of the group is. Season 2 was not as amazing as Season 1 but still good except for the ending not really influencing The New Frontier.
Yes I agree I disliked them for killing off Kenny way to quickly. However, I do not see the point of flashbacks in this season because it will be just from Clementine's perspective and we have been with her since the beginning. I mean maybe two flashbacks at most would be ok for this season.
Also the flashbacks are part of why everyone hated A New Frontier because the flashbacks added nothing to the story and didn't really effect… more the outcome of the game just who Clem was going to help.
I wouldn't just presume the flashbacks will be bad because of the ones in ANF, this time they might actually have meaning and influence decisions Clem makes. Besides, I think the main reason people didn't like them was because of the way Kenny or Jane died.
Luke died because Kenny insisted that Arvo take them to the house because it had supplies.
Um, Luke died because Kenny insisted? Kenny was the first to disagree with the idea saying it was a trap, Jane along with the others, were the ones who wanted to go.
During the stand off, what did the Russians want? If the cabin group had given them what they wanted, would they have killed them?
I don't think they would have, the only reason they came was to do the same and that was to take everything like Clem did if you chose to steal the medicine.
Plus, as I've said elsewhere, Kenny would have stolen the meds too if he thought that it could save a pregnant woman and a baby.
Of course, he would have if he had the choice. That being said, I don't think he would take them if Clem said not to, maybe argue why he should, but if Clem said so, he wouldn't take the medicine. Besides, Kenny wouldn't leave Clem and still take some medicine without her knowing, that's for sure.
Nope, you did not. Luke died because Kenny insisted that Arvo take them to the house because it had supplies. Unless Arvo knew the layer of … moreice was too thin to cross he did not lead Luke to his death. Everyone else almost dying because they were walking over ice was not Arvo's fault either. Arvo walked over that same ice, too.
During the stand off, what did the Russians want? If the cabin group had given them what they wanted, would they have killed them?
Plus, as I've said elsewhere, Kenny would have stolen the meds too if he thought that it could save a pregnant woman and a baby.
I agree that Kenny is the only one who understood that Arvo was leading them to a trap. The rest wanted to go because Arvo insisted there was food. Kenny and Clementine have been through this before. Remember Andy, Danny, and Brenda with their dairy? They were promised food, the dairy was in the middle of nowhere like the unfinished house Arvo lived in, and they were betrayed in both situations. Kenny understood that as soon as they arrived there. Also Kenny may be reckless but he is able to back it up because he is good with weapons, intimidating when he has to be, and protective of the people he cares about.
Luke died because Kenny insisted that Arvo take them to the house because it had supplies.
Um, Luke died because Kenny insisted? Ken… moreny was the first to disagree with the idea saying it was a trap, Jane along with the others, were the ones who wanted to go.
During the stand off, what did the Russians want? If the cabin group had given them what they wanted, would they have killed them?
I don't think they would have, the only reason they came was to do the same and that was to take everything like Clem did if you chose to steal the medicine.
Plus, as I've said elsewhere, Kenny would have stolen the meds too if he thought that it could save a pregnant woman and a baby.
Of course, he would have if he had the choice. That being said, I don't think he would take them if Clem said not to, maybe argue why he should, but if Clem said so, he wouldn't take the medicine. Besides, Kenny wouldn't leave Clem and still take some medicine without her knowing, that's for sure.
I'm not entirely sure what point he was trying to make there.
@ShampaFK, @DabigRG, There's comes a time when you have 0 fight left in you for anything. Here's a few reasons Kenny has no more fight left in him. Though some time has passed:
Dealing with Katjaa's suicide and everything with Duck.
Watching/holding Sarita as she slowly goes to the other side. (and watching her get bit and hand chopped off)
Losing a fucking eye!
Longing for this day:
Being the black sheep of the group most of the time.
AND THAT GODDAMN JANE!
Now please, can we put the "Kenny is a time bomb" bs to bed for good ffs?
No, it was a weird poorly written sentence. The second "crap" should have read energy. Nice catch.
"put up another fight"
Is t… morehis a reference to something?
As for that, you'd have to ask PapaHutDomino. I'm not entirely sure what point he was trying to make there.
Hey, I didn't bring it up, even if I somewhat agree with it.
I also more than agree that Kenny had enough of "losing so much" and just needed to at least retire asap.
I'm not entirely sure what point he was trying to make there.
@ShampaFK, @DabigRG, There's comes a time when you have 0 fight left i… moren you for anything. Here's a few reasons Kenny has no more fight left in him. Though some time has passed:
* Dealing with Katjaa's suicide and everything with Duck.
* Watching/holding Sarita as she slowly goes to the other side. (and watching her get bit and hand chopped off)
* Losing a fucking eye!
* Longing for this day:
* Being the black sheep of the group most of the time.
* AND THAT GODDAMN JANE!
Now please, can we put the "Kenny is a time bomb" bs to bed for good ffs?
Hey, I didn't bring it up, even if I somewhat agree with it.
I also more than agree that Kenny had enough of "losing so much" and just needed to at least retire asap.
And yet, I'd rather not risk the chances of Telltale taking the easy way out by reducing her character into a one-dimensional villain, and to give players a chance to kill her in the name of vengeance.
Like it or not, there are those who do like Lilly for who she is, are willing to accept her flaws and mistakes, and can identify with her more that they do with Kenny, Jane, or the majority of the ANF cast.
Lilly should be at the ranch. She was one of the best characters in the series and is a character that can bring conflict, sympathy and deba… morete, which is definitely something that's needed in the game for it's end.
But if Telltale just bring her back to turn her into some unhinged dastardly villain, something a lot of people seem to want, I'll be very disappointed. Lilly was not a bad person, she was a flawed and broken woman who was pushed to her emotional limits mid-way through season 1 after trauma. Turning her into a baddie is just a disservice to what was a truly complex character. I'd much prefer a redemption arc.
Not to mention that she was more or less already pigeonholed down a negative path due to a tie-in deal that got screwed after her hook exit was already set.
I agree wholeheartedly.
And yet, I'd rather not risk the chances of Telltale taking the easy way out by reducing her character into a one… more-dimensional villain, and to give players a chance to kill her in the name of vengeance.
Like it or not, there are those who do like Lilly for who she is, are willing to accept her flaws and mistakes, and can identify with her more that they do with Kenny, Jane, or the majority of the ANF cast.
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I dont think that you have to be a mastermind and need a lot education to search for things like photos, tracks, reading letters etc. ... Also good to know that iam not everyone because I didnt hate the flashbacks of Clem to get to know more about how she came to this point of the story. But I agree it was useless to the story (of the Garcias). ... And I didnt thought that TT wrote in blacke&white but the fanbase reactions (like yours with Jane now) are that way too often.
I just never really been a supporter of Jane because she is one of those characters trying to lead Clem down the path of not doing the right thing and she was always looking out for herself that is why she left Clem and AJ in A New Frontier she couldn't handle having a child that reminded her of Luke or the pain that comes from childbirth so the writers made it clear that she was a selfish person and left Clementine alone. Also doesn't she do nothing to help Clem in the later episode flashback I never played A New Frontier with the Jane ending so I don't know. Also when you said make Clementine have more detective scenes I thought you meant like Batman or The Wolf Among Us where you have to link clues and deduce what happened. Well I did like that the flashbacks made us play as Clem but it would've been better if it was just Clem's story and not Javier's unless he is going to be an ally in The Final Season.
I wouldn't just presume the flashbacks will be bad because of the ones in ANF, this time they might actually have meaning and influence decisions Clem makes. Besides, I think the main reason people didn't like them was because of the way Kenny or Jane died.
Yes I agree I disliked them for killing off Kenny way to quickly. However, I do not see the point of flashbacks in this season because it will be just from Clementine's perspective and we have been with her since the beginning. I mean maybe two flashbacks at most would be ok for this season.
Um, Luke died because Kenny insisted? Kenny was the first to disagree with the idea saying it was a trap, Jane along with the others, were the ones who wanted to go.
I don't think they would have, the only reason they came was to do the same and that was to take everything like Clem did if you chose to steal the medicine.
Of course, he would have if he had the choice. That being said, I don't think he would take them if Clem said not to, maybe argue why he should, but if Clem said so, he wouldn't take the medicine. Besides, Kenny wouldn't leave Clem and still take some medicine without her knowing, that's for sure.
I agree that Kenny is the only one who understood that Arvo was leading them to a trap. The rest wanted to go because Arvo insisted there was food. Kenny and Clementine have been through this before. Remember Andy, Danny, and Brenda with their dairy? They were promised food, the dairy was in the middle of nowhere like the unfinished house Arvo lived in, and they were betrayed in both situations. Kenny understood that as soon as they arrived there. Also Kenny may be reckless but he is able to back it up because he is good with weapons, intimidating when he has to be, and protective of the people he cares about.
@ShampaFK, @DabigRG, There's comes a time when you have 0 fight left in you for anything. Here's a few reasons Kenny has no more fight left in him. Though some time has passed:
Longing for this day:
Being the black sheep of the group most of the time.
Now please, can we put the "Kenny is a time bomb" bs to bed for good ffs?
Hey, I didn't bring it up, even if I somewhat agree with it.
I also more than agree that Kenny had enough of "losing so much" and just needed to at least retire asap.
My point exactly! Though I'd use "rest" instead of retire lol. The word "retire" in this series isn't what it used to be before the outbreak
I agree wholeheartedly.
And yet, I'd rather not risk the chances of Telltale taking the easy way out by reducing her character into a one-dimensional villain, and to give players a chance to kill her in the name of vengeance.
Like it or not, there are those who do like Lilly for who she is, are willing to accept her flaws and mistakes, and can identify with her more that they do with Kenny, Jane, or the majority of the ANF cast.
Not to mention that she was more or less already pigeonholed down a negative path due to a tie-in deal that got screwed after her hook exit was already set.
True we never actually see him die
You're right i'm sure he's ok