Choices from Season 1/2 could affect The Final Season?
I think it would be amazing and it would really show that our choices actually matter if some choices made by Lee/Clementine during Season 1 and 2 (maybe ANF) affected The Final Season in some way.
For example, if Lee chose to leave Lily on the side of the road, she ran away after the walker came after her and has been running for days, Lily finds and joins a group and after a few weeks, they come across a group of survivors, she lets them join their group but they betray her group and kills everyone, she barely manages to survive, she is bitten by a walker during the attack (by this time, she learns that cutting off your arm saves you), she cuts off her arm, she doesn't join groups anymore and this Lily will be more ruthless, less sympathetic and doesn't trust anyone anymore because of recent events. If you chose to bring Lily with you and she steals the AV then she would encounter a completely different group, that group survives for a while until they are attacked, many of the people in the group die and only one of them survive, along with Lily. This Lily is more kind-hearted, trusts people more (because Lee brought her with him and her most recent group), regretful. This could affect a scene in The Final Season such as when Lily meets Clementine again.
If you left Lily in Season 1, then she would have one arm and be alone, she would be slightly more hostile towards Clementine. If you brought Lily with Lee in Season 1, then she would have both her arms and be with someone else and she would be more 'kind'.
Another scenario this could affect is if Lily is the leader of Clementine's group and they encounter a group of survivors, If you left Lily in Season 1, she decides to kill them but Clementine can interfere (if you want her to) and depending on what you say, she can change Lily's mind. If you brought Lily with Lee in Season 1, Lily would decide to let them in, Clementine can choose to disagree with her, depending on what you say, she can change Lily's mind.
Letting the group in or not will matter later in the game. The community will be attacked and Clementine's group has to defend it. Clementine is about to be shot by someone but depending on your choice to let the group in, one of the people from that group will save Clementine. If you chose to kill the group then Clementine will be shot in the shoulder. During the aftermath of the attack, if your Clementine was shot, medical supplies will be used on her instead of another survivor (who will end up dying). If your Clementine wasn't shot, that other survivor will survive.(Also a nice but small detail that could be included in Season 4 is that Lily and Clem could have a conversation and Lily could mention regretting leaving her and Lee (if you said you wanted to leave with her).
This shows that choices made in Season 1 could impact how things go in Season 4. Other choices from Season 1/2 that could affect The Final Season 2 could be whenever to distract the scavengers or sneak away, whenever you save Kenny/Jane etc (even though there aren't many choices from S1/S2 that could impact S4)
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Ya wanna go back and edit this to be a little less cluttered, pal?
That'd be appreciated.
EDIT: Thank you kindly!
The problem is there are nearly no choices or opportunities remaining to have any impact in the final season.
The only season 1 choices that should possibly have an impact are whether Clementine shot the stranger, whether she shot Lee, whether Lee cut his arm, and if Lilly returns then whether she stole the rv or was exiled.
As far as s2 choices, I fully expect to be able to talk to AJ about where he and Clem ended up at the end of s2. If that doesn't get brought up I'll be sorely disappointed.
I really hope we get more conversational "looking back" moments like the conversation between Luke and Clementine in episode 2(?) in the cabin where Clementine can talk about what happened to Lee, and we get moments to look back and tell people about the choices we made.
Hahaha! Telltale have LONG forgotten our season 1 and 2 choices. I would be very surprised if they brought anything back, plus how many people will have the same saves from back then?
There's a flashback in season 2 about Lilly, and I think this flashback is not for nothing, so I'd say it's going to influence SEASON 4
What if in season 1 if lee helped kill Lilly’s father she comes back in season 4 and that affects the relationship between Clem and her?
I don't really see how Lily and Clementine's relationship will be affected by choosing to help kill Larry or not. I think Lily would only mention the moment, and it won't affect her relationship with Clementine because it was Lee's choice, not Clem's
If you mean the dream sequence in Episode 5 then I don't think that has anything to do with Season 4. Lily isn't even in that scene for most people (if you left her).
I’m thinking it might create tension between the two during hard times
If Lilly is not important, why have a flashback about her? The flashback is about Lilly shooting / Carley / Doug in clem's eyes
They don't need saves now that they have the continue your story option, other games have used something similar to import past choices such as Witcher 3 and Dragon Age Inquisition.
They could also have Kenny or Jane cameo if they were left alive?
Oh i know, but is using the continue your story option really going to work? Are Telltale going to make the effort to go back and see what things they could carry over? Even the smallest of things that Lee or someone else may have said that she “will remember that”? I just can’t see that. I would be impressed if they had Clem mention something like “When i was very hungry, Lee fed me an apple” or whatever it was you fed her. That to me would prove to me they have took the time to go back and make our choices feel relevant. But come on we know they won’t
Because Lee made a huge choice that potentially condemned somebody to death by leaving them stranded, on the side of a road in the middle of nowhere? It had nothing to do with Lilly, the entire point of that scene was about making tough choices. You know, like the one she had to make at the end of that same episode.
I also posted this here.
If Christa was to return in the final season, this is a choice I would add if I was over these types of decisions.
If Clementine didn't distract the scavengers: In season 2 if Clementine doesn't choose to distract the scavengers, Christa gets stabbed in the leg with a spear. Christa managed to escape the encounter but also put a lot of strain on her leg in doing so. She cleaned it herself but due to her lack of medical knowledge it never healed back to its former state and Christa developed a permanent limp. So this would affect the way Christa is animated and a few lines of dialogue here and there. Christa can walk around fine but has a limp. She can run when she has to, but it is painful for her to do so and obviously her limp causes her to be a slower runner. For the most part Christa can still hold her own in a fight but her limp does restrict her capabilities a little. Perhaps there could be an instance where a character is dangling from a high ledge and is attempting to pull themself up. While this is happening there is a walker approaching them. Everyone is out of bullets so they can't save the person by simply shooting the walker. Clementine is far away fighting off walkers with her knife. Christa makes a run for it to kill the walker approaching the guy who is dangling from the ledge but because of her limp she is unable to get to the walker in time. The walker bites the guy's arm causing him to lose grip and fall to his death. Perhaps a positive impact this scenario could possibly have would be sometime after the previous event I described. After the death of the one character, Christa wises up and decides to stock up on extra ammo to compensate for her limp. The extra bullets make some of the future fights go smoother.
If Clementine did distract the scavengers: In season 2 if Clementine did distract the scavengers Christa never gets stabbed in the leg so she never developed a permanent limp. This allows her to be a faster runner and she is much more useful in a fight. When the event where one of the new characters is dangling from the ledge happens, Christa is able to catch up to the walker, kill it, and pull the character up from the ledge. However, because of how smoothly this event happens in comparison to the other scenario; Christa doesn't feel the need to stock up on extra ammo than usual after that event. So, some of the struggles in the future don't go as smoothly due to the lack of extra bullets.
leaving Kenny in Wellington. Yesterday he posted this: (maybe he'll come back, but that's up to telltale).
Let's just hope he's not bluffing.
That's a really bad idea imho
NoMoreKennyPlease
Condemned to death ? She stole the RV too, if there is a HISTORY for Kenny and David has HISTORY for anyone, stop saying " it had nothing to do with Lilly " Because there are always possibilities
Given that people keep saying they want to see previous material utilized and/or wish the next game(s) can be like Season 1 again, it'd say there's another strong incentive to for them to at least consider.
Let's hope he is.
[Insert Mara Junot's comment about "Season 3" here]
Not contesting your point here, but
What were you trying to say here, grammatically?
Yes, and all of this happened between the time she stole the RV and when they left her. Maybe I missed the big heartfelt moment Lilly had explaining herself in the flashback, but it literally had nothing to do with Lillys character and everything to do with the choice Lee made and explaining it to Clementine. That was the point of the flashback, not that Lilly will come back in 2 games.
They did a good job with carrying over choices with Batman, I think they could pull making a small few choices impact The Final Season, plus they'd just get flak if they don't.
Time will tell. If only they’d make it exactly like Season 1 was
I do not think Telltale can hit the same target twice.
I agree I love him but you got to leave him
April fools, right?
FuckNO.
This.
If you actually looked at his twitter you would see that this tweet isn't real