(I actually hate that,it's so out of place i don't understand why they did this).
I imagine it's mainly because of the comic. Jesus … morebeing gay is relatively common knowledge as far as the comics are concerned. Someone probably felt that adding a scene like that would have been a humorous little moment. I truly get the impression that it was intended as an innocent joke, nothing more. Not Telltale trying to make a statement, or trying to be progressive, or anything like that, just poking some fun at the comic readers and/or people familiar with the character of Jesus.
But I'll be honest here; if there's one thing the internet has taught me, it's that people have a knack for blowing things way out of proportion, or twisting something innocent into a problem. People misinterpret things way more than they care to admit. Hell, I admit that I'm guilty of it.
First off, I do want to say I appreciate you attempting to tackle or mention the arguments against your claims.
As for the Lee and Larry stuff, as you mentioned, he pretty much disliked and antagonized everyone, not just Lee. He did with Kenny, Duck, Carley, Doug, Mark, and even at times, his own daughter. While I can see where you're coming from, based on the evidence presented, I am more inclined to see his remark as a combination for Larry's disliking of Lee as a whole for what he did, not his skin color, and because he is younger than him. Remember, he also made disparaging remarks towards Mark, asking if he wanted a handout and to stop being a pansy. And as you pointed out, one of the people he doesn't show a distaste for was Clem, even telling Lee that if anything happened to her, he should watch his ass. I'm less inclined to believe in Larry being a racist if he makes a threat like that towards Lee in regards to Clem, who is also black.
I'm not really sure why someone assuming Lee and Clem are father/daughter is necessarily a racist inclination. If I was in their shoes, regardless of what Clem and Lee's race may be, black or white, I would also assume that they're related based on first glance. And even then, race would not be the only factor here, age is also significant (Lee being 37 and Clem 8/9), as well as the nature of their interactions gives off a father/daughter vibe.
For Jane, this plays more into what is a big theme in TWD as a whole, that being balancing one's humanity by looking out for others along with focusing on your own survival. Obviously, Jane became more of a survivalist and distanced herself from others as a result. With Jamie, it was a decisions that was hard on Jane to make, but you're forgetting the other times Jane forced her sister to keep going when Jamie had pretty much given up a long time ago. She saw the same thing with Sarah in the trailer park, but if you save her and tell Jane to go help Sarah later, she will ultimately try to help Sarah when she's trapped under the rubble.
Concerning the topic at hand, that being overtly political and current issues being unnecessarily shoe horned into games, none of these were meant to be comments or analytical insights into anything going on nor sublet political messaging. Some of these are just comments with little to no meaning behind them, or themes tackling survival and compassion in a post apocalyptic world.
okay, fair enough.
with Lee, on top of Kenny's then-minor racism, he also put up with Larry's. even if Larry wasn't antagonizing Lee over… more being black, he still called Lee 'boy' when addressing him, which is racist infantilization of a grown man. Larry could be just referring to Lee being younger than him, but he doesn't afford this to any other adults in the group even though he clearly shows distaste for anyone who's not Lilly or Clem. additionally, everyone assumes Clem is Lee's daughter immediately with 2 exceptions; Carley, who's done enough research to know that they're not related, and Christa, who is the only other black survivor Lee meets (although to be fair, it could just be because of something else, like her pregnancy, her distrust, or Lee and Clem somehow interacting in a non-familial way).
as for Jane, I wasn't at all referring to arvo, but to Sarah and Jaime. she left her sister to die because Jaime had depression, and sh… [view original content]
How about no romance in general. If telltale were to incorporate romance in TFS it would most likely be determinant... we all remember how shity that was in ANF with Javi and Kate.
I think the main problem with the Jesus scene was that right after Telltale confirmed Javier was Bi. Its just random and weird, and apparently Telltale saw it more of a "confirmation Javier is Bi" than a cute little reference.
I think the main issue is how the whole game they pretty much force the Javi x Kate thing up to episode 4 when you can say no, but even if you go all this way with Kate and even tell her you want to make a family with her, you walk outside and just go "ayy yo Jesus wanna fuck lmao"
If anything it feels really disrespectful to someone who's LGBT. Javier was never presented this way the entire game, but then at the very end of episode 5 with a really quick dialogue, Telltale comes in and goes "HA HE'S BI! LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE WE ARE!" It feels so tacked on just so Telltale can say Javier was Bi. But its just stupid, if Telltale actually cares about "representing" LGBT, they should do that from the very start, instead it feels they are just to scared to actually have it implemented. It could have been as simple as when we are talking to Kate about feelings, could have been an option for Javi to say that maybe he isnt into women, or just go into it more. Something that naturally comes up, and isnt forced, but still represents it. In other words, not random talk, and then Telltale goes on the forums and goes "yeah he bi lmao"
sorry for replying to almost week old comment good sir forgive me fam
(I actually hate that,it's so out of place i don't understand why they did this).
I imagine it's mainly because of the comic. Jesus … morebeing gay is relatively common knowledge as far as the comics are concerned. Someone probably felt that adding a scene like that would have been a humorous little moment. I truly get the impression that it was intended as an innocent joke, nothing more. Not Telltale trying to make a statement, or trying to be progressive, or anything like that, just poking some fun at the comic readers and/or people familiar with the character of Jesus.
But I'll be honest here; if there's one thing the internet has taught me, it's that people have a knack for blowing things way out of proportion, or twisting something innocent into a problem. People misinterpret things way more than they care to admit. Hell, I admit that I'm guilty of it.
It was honestly quite weird to suddenly have Javier be Bi. I don't mind if he is bisexual, but nothing in the story until EP5 indicated that Javier was interested in men so it came off as just a side-note.
I think the main problem with the Jesus scene was that right after Telltale confirmed Javier was Bi. Its just random and weird, and apparent… morely Telltale saw it more of a "confirmation Javier is Bi" than a cute little reference.
I think the main issue is how the whole game they pretty much force the Javi x Kate thing up to episode 4 when you can say no, but even if you go all this way with Kate and even tell her you want to make a family with her, you walk outside and just go "ayy yo Jesus wanna fuck lmao"
If anything it feels really disrespectful to someone who's LGBT. Javier was never presented this way the entire game, but then at the very end of episode 5 with a really quick dialogue, Telltale comes in and goes "HA HE'S BI! LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE WE ARE!" It feels so tacked on just so Telltale can say Javier was Bi. But its just stupid, if Telltale actually cares about "representing" LGBT, they should do that from the very start, instea… [view original content]
I do like javier x Jesus but I too don’t like the fact that he’s suddenly bisexual just because a writer wanted to make that small scene be more than a joke. I could see if him and Kate were flirting she could bring up past boyfriends that never worked or something
It was honestly quite weird to suddenly have Javier be Bi. I don't mind if he is bisexual, but nothing in the story until EP5 indicated that Javier was interested in men so it came off as just a side-note.
I do like javier x Jesus but I too don’t like the fact that he’s suddenly bisexual just because a writer wanted to make that small scene be … moremore than a joke. I could see if him and Kate were flirting she could bring up past boyfriends that never worked or something
I'm not sure why everyone's so opposed to any romances in the game. I mean characters in the TV show tend to go about romancing each other from time to time don't they? I can understand the need for focusing on survival but they're still human beings. I wouldn't want anything to be forced though, and Telltale should have proper dialogues for when the player isn't interested. As for her sexuality...I wouldn't mind her being bi. Or hell as crazy as this might be maybe let us decide what Clem is through the game? That way everyone gets their own option. With all that being said, I'm not saying the game should focus entirely on love. But I do think it could potentially be a good side story.
Meh, Clem never seemed bisexual to me. Romance is okay as long as it's optional and not forced. But Telltale is not very good at romance(e.g. A New Frontier), so I don't expect anything.
I'm not sure why everyone's so opposed to any romances in the game. I mean characters in the TV show tend to go about romancing each other f… morerom time to time don't they? I can understand the need for focusing on survival but they're still human beings. I wouldn't want anything to be forced though, and Telltale should have proper dialogues for when the player isn't interested. As for her sexuality...I wouldn't mind her being bi. Or hell as crazy as this might be maybe let us decide what Clem is through the game? That way everyone gets their own option. With all that being said, I'm not saying the game should focus entirely on love. But I do think it could potentially be a good side story.
I totally agree. It seems like such an afterthought. Like, when I played it it seemed to me that Javi was just paying Jesus a compliment, well two, one telling him he's a badass and the other about his armor, and then Jesus misinterpreted Javi's intentions and starts flirting and getting awkward. I mean yeah, the choice for the badass line is "I like you" but shit, I like The Rock but I ain't trying to fuck him lol. It's as if some fans saw Jesus' response and took as if Javi was bi and meant to flirt and they asked TellTale about it and TellTale was like "uh... yeah totally. We totally meant for it to come across like that. Yep. Completely intentional. Mmhmm."
It was honestly quite weird to suddenly have Javier be Bi. I don't mind if he is bisexual, but nothing in the story until EP5 indicated that Javier was interested in men so it came off as just a side-note.
Its quite unfortunate that people are so against the idea of a optional romance whether straight or homosexual. Its strange to me how so many people are sensitive to the idea of romances in Games, Tv,Movies,etc. But it could also be a double standard that its more acceptable for male protagonists to be shipped to different characters than it is to female ones ,meaning there isn't much opposition to the idea of it. I hope that this isn't the case with this fandom but it seems to be the case especially with you so called overprotective parents of Clementine, like your okay with her killing men and cursing talking about her period but just the thought of Clementine being with someone causes you to flip out yeah that's hypocritical.
This type of comments aren't gonna help you know,just saying.
I'm not even talking about it anymore it's just people coming on this thread and saying "oh i'm tired of you guys" and here we go again,just let this thread die already if you don't have anything good to say.
To be fair, she'll be 16 in TFS. That's legal consenting age in many(most?) places around the world, even some states in the US. Additionally, I'm sure a lot of players are around that age so it's not weird for them to talk or think about it at all.
Because a tv show is different than a game. Especially in a game series driven towards your choices. Have a relationship forced on someone in a game who the player does not want to happen can be annoying
I'm not sure why everyone's so opposed to any romances in the game. I mean characters in the TV show tend to go about romancing each other f… morerom time to time don't they? I can understand the need for focusing on survival but they're still human beings. I wouldn't want anything to be forced though, and Telltale should have proper dialogues for when the player isn't interested. As for her sexuality...I wouldn't mind her being bi. Or hell as crazy as this might be maybe let us decide what Clem is through the game? That way everyone gets their own option. With all that being said, I'm not saying the game should focus entirely on love. But I do think it could potentially be a good side story.
If it's done well then players get choices. Either pursue someone or don't or shut them down if you don't want it. TNF handled the Kate thing poorly for those that were trying to avoid it. It seems that they were depending on people going for Kate and didn't really plan for how to make that brotherly showdown happen without it so even if you denied Kate at every opportunity, it still got pushed there.
Because a tv show is different than a game. Especially in a game series driven towards your choices. Have a relationship forced on someone in a game who the player does not want to happen can be annoying
Which is dumb/weird considering they seemed to be backing off from the half-assed concept with the direction shift in Thicker than Water.
Man, is From the Gallows such a blatantly rushed and lazy hot mess of an episode.
If it's done well then players get choices. Either pursue someone or don't or shut them down if you don't want it. TNF handled the Kate thin… moreg poorly for those that were trying to avoid it. It seems that they were depending on people going for Kate and didn't really plan for how to make that brotherly showdown happen without it so even if you denied Kate at every opportunity, it still got pushed there.
Because a tv show is different than a game. Especially in a game series driven towards your choices. Have a relationship forced on someone in a game who the player does not want to happen can be annoying
I'm just gonna say that this wouldn't even be subject to discussion during a zombie apocalypse, people would have real problems to worry about instead of yammering over their sexuality or being confused about their gender, gimme a break would ya, just give me a good story about survival and keep that nonsens far away from the upcoming season,
Meh, Clem never seemed bisexual to me. Romance is okay as long as it's optional and not forced. But Telltale is not very good at romance(e.g. A New Frontier), so I don't expect anything.
Problem is "optional" romance in Telltale games is kinda non-existent. Each game with a romance constantly pushes down that road, even if you get past the part that should be a "no romance, I dont want this at all" type of choice.
The one "romance" that happens kinda out of no where with no real player input but is determinant is Clem X Gabe, which was horrible. Happens out of no where, and the algorithm that determent why it happens makes even less sense.
Problem is "optional" romance in Telltale games is kinda non-existent. Each game with a romance constantly pushes down that road, even if yo… moreu get past the part that should be a "no romance, I dont want this at all" type of choice.
The one "romance" that happens kinda out of no where with no real player input but is determinant is Clem X Gabe, which was horrible. Happens out of no where, and the algorithm that determent why it happens makes even less sense.
Telltale does have a problem with optional romances but they just need to work on it, yes they fucked up bad with Anf but they have also handled other romances well like Batman. So people need to let that go and not hate on people for wanting it in the game.
Problem is "optional" romance in Telltale games is kinda non-existent. Each game with a romance constantly pushes down that road, even if yo… moreu get past the part that should be a "no romance, I dont want this at all" type of choice.
The one "romance" that happens kinda out of no where with no real player input but is determinant is Clem X Gabe, which was horrible. Happens out of no where, and the algorithm that determent why it happens makes even less sense.
Gabentine makes sense because they're about the same age. Aside from his little sister, Clem is the only other girl around his age that Gabe has seen since the ZA started and at his age his hormones are running rampant and he'd get the hots for just about anyone with a vajimjam. Likewise, Gabe is probably the only boy her age that Clem has spent any time around and just like his hormones are running wild on him, so are hers, as evidenced by her getting her period. It's honestly a perfectly natural response for both of them to crush on each other. The weird thing is it kinda' coming out of nowhere.
All that said, I made sure Gabe died in my game because fuck that little emo bitch baby lol.
Gabentine makes sense because they're about the same age.
That's the only logic everyone subscribed with( initially).
And they were allegedly the same age. Stupid status quo.
Likewise, Gabe is probably the only boy her age that Clem has spent any time around and just like his hormones are running wild on him, so are hers, as evidenced by her getting her period
Gabentine makes sense because they're about the same age. Aside from his little sister, Clem is the only other girl around his age that Gabe… more has seen since the ZA started and at his age his hormones are running rampant and he'd get the hots for just about anyone with a vajimjam. Likewise, Gabe is probably the only boy her age that Clem has spent any time around and just like his hormones are running wild on him, so are hers, as evidenced by her getting her period. It's honestly a perfectly natural response for both of them to crush on each other. The weird thing is it kinda' coming out of nowhere.
All that said, I made sure Gabe died in my game because fuck that little emo bitch baby lol.
Gabentine makes sense because they're about the same age.
That's the only logic everyone subscribed with( initially).
And they wer… moree allegedly the same age. Stupid status quo.
Likewise, Gabe is probably the only boy her age that Clem has spent any time around and just like his hormones are running wild on him, so are hers, as evidenced by her getting her period
. * Insert self-imposed fakeout'd Amid the Ruins callback here. *
It's honestly a perfectly natural response for both of them to crush on each other.
If by natural you mean biological, they sure, maybe. If you meant in terms of their characters, that's [mostly] a damn lie.
The weird thing is it kinda' coming out of nowhere and/or being retcon'd in.
Fixed.
No, Batman still heavily pushes towards a Selina and Bruce romance as well as making a major plot point be involved with them being together, the whole Harvey thinking Selina is cheating, that type of stuff. The sad part is this romance is seen as "better" because her role in the story becomes super small after episode 3 after the romance choice, making it so it was easier to make the romance "fair" because she is just gone if you said yes or no.
Telltale does have a problem with optional romances but they just need to work on it, yes they fucked up bad with Anf but they have also ha… morendled other romances well like Batman. So people need to let that go and not hate on people for wanting it in the game.
Yeah my bad for not clarifying enough but I was kinda talking about Batman the enemy within where you can either friend zone Selina or make her an enemy which makes her a opional romance option.
No, Batman still heavily pushes towards a Selina and Bruce romance as well as making a major plot point be involved with them being together… more, the whole Harvey thinking Selina is cheating, that type of stuff. The sad part is this romance is seen as "better" because her role in the story becomes super small after episode 3 after the romance choice, making it so it was easier to make the romance "fair" because she is just gone if you said yes or no.
I agree 100%. Stole the words right out of my mouth. Well technically not my mouth but rather my fingers…. because well... this is an internet forum and… you communicate by typing words with you fingers rather than speaking because... I’ll... just... shut up now.
I'm just gonna say that this wouldn't even be subject to discussion during a zombie apocalypse, people would have real problems to worry abo… moreut instead of yammering over their sexuality or being confused about their gender, gimme a break would ya, just give me a good story about survival and keep that nonsens far away from the upcoming season,
please and thank you!
Well actually he is not right and here is why. Humans are social creatures, it is not enough to merely survive. People need reasons to survive, loved ones...people counting on them. Simply surviving is not enough for a lot of people. Alone in a world where it may seem hopeless...how do you not eat the end of your gun? So in as much as it is bothersome for some...relationships are important. People are people and will form bonds in any situation.
I agree 100%. Stole the words right out of my mouth. Well technically not my mouth but rather my fingers…. because well... this is an intern… moreet forum and… you communicate by typing words with you fingers rather than speaking because... I’ll... just... shut up now.
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does that include me?
First off, I do want to say I appreciate you attempting to tackle or mention the arguments against your claims.
As for the Lee and Larry stuff, as you mentioned, he pretty much disliked and antagonized everyone, not just Lee. He did with Kenny, Duck, Carley, Doug, Mark, and even at times, his own daughter. While I can see where you're coming from, based on the evidence presented, I am more inclined to see his remark as a combination for Larry's disliking of Lee as a whole for what he did, not his skin color, and because he is younger than him. Remember, he also made disparaging remarks towards Mark, asking if he wanted a handout and to stop being a pansy. And as you pointed out, one of the people he doesn't show a distaste for was Clem, even telling Lee that if anything happened to her, he should watch his ass. I'm less inclined to believe in Larry being a racist if he makes a threat like that towards Lee in regards to Clem, who is also black.
I'm not really sure why someone assuming Lee and Clem are father/daughter is necessarily a racist inclination. If I was in their shoes, regardless of what Clem and Lee's race may be, black or white, I would also assume that they're related based on first glance. And even then, race would not be the only factor here, age is also significant (Lee being 37 and Clem 8/9), as well as the nature of their interactions gives off a father/daughter vibe.
For Jane, this plays more into what is a big theme in TWD as a whole, that being balancing one's humanity by looking out for others along with focusing on your own survival. Obviously, Jane became more of a survivalist and distanced herself from others as a result. With Jamie, it was a decisions that was hard on Jane to make, but you're forgetting the other times Jane forced her sister to keep going when Jamie had pretty much given up a long time ago. She saw the same thing with Sarah in the trailer park, but if you save her and tell Jane to go help Sarah later, she will ultimately try to help Sarah when she's trapped under the rubble.
Concerning the topic at hand, that being overtly political and current issues being unnecessarily shoe horned into games, none of these were meant to be comments or analytical insights into anything going on nor sublet political messaging. Some of these are just comments with little to no meaning behind them, or themes tackling survival and compassion in a post apocalyptic world.
"bisexual clementine"
What's with these threads? There's one for Batman and probably many others. Smh
How about no romance in general. If telltale were to incorporate romance in TFS it would most likely be determinant... we all remember how shity that was in ANF with Javi and Kate.
I think the main problem with the Jesus scene was that right after Telltale confirmed Javier was Bi. Its just random and weird, and apparently Telltale saw it more of a "confirmation Javier is Bi" than a cute little reference.
I think the main issue is how the whole game they pretty much force the Javi x Kate thing up to episode 4 when you can say no, but even if you go all this way with Kate and even tell her you want to make a family with her, you walk outside and just go "ayy yo Jesus wanna fuck lmao"
If anything it feels really disrespectful to someone who's LGBT. Javier was never presented this way the entire game, but then at the very end of episode 5 with a really quick dialogue, Telltale comes in and goes "HA HE'S BI! LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE WE ARE!" It feels so tacked on just so Telltale can say Javier was Bi. But its just stupid, if Telltale actually cares about "representing" LGBT, they should do that from the very start, instead it feels they are just to scared to actually have it implemented. It could have been as simple as when we are talking to Kate about feelings, could have been an option for Javi to say that maybe he isnt into women, or just go into it more. Something that naturally comes up, and isnt forced, but still represents it. In other words, not random talk, and then Telltale goes on the forums and goes "yeah he bi lmao"
sorry for replying to almost week old comment good sir forgive me fam
It was honestly quite weird to suddenly have Javier be Bi. I don't mind if he is bisexual, but nothing in the story until EP5 indicated that Javier was interested in men so it came off as just a side-note.
I do like javier x Jesus but I too don’t like the fact that he’s suddenly bisexual just because a writer wanted to make that small scene be more than a joke. I could see if him and Kate were flirting she could bring up past boyfriends that never worked or something
...Connection?
I'm not sure why everyone's so opposed to any romances in the game. I mean characters in the TV show tend to go about romancing each other from time to time don't they? I can understand the need for focusing on survival but they're still human beings. I wouldn't want anything to be forced though, and Telltale should have proper dialogues for when the player isn't interested. As for her sexuality...I wouldn't mind her being bi. Or hell as crazy as this might be maybe let us decide what Clem is through the game? That way everyone gets their own option. With all that being said, I'm not saying the game should focus entirely on love. But I do think it could potentially be a good side story.
Meh, Clem never seemed bisexual to me. Romance is okay as long as it's optional and not forced. But Telltale is not very good at romance(e.g. A New Frontier), so I don't expect anything.
I wouldn't mind if we got to choose if Clementine liked someone. But leave it to the individual player to decide who.
They sure do.
I totally agree. It seems like such an afterthought. Like, when I played it it seemed to me that Javi was just paying Jesus a compliment, well two, one telling him he's a badass and the other about his armor, and then Jesus misinterpreted Javi's intentions and starts flirting and getting awkward. I mean yeah, the choice for the badass line is "I like you" but shit, I like The Rock but I ain't trying to fuck him lol. It's as if some fans saw Jesus' response and took as if Javi was bi and meant to flirt and they asked TellTale about it and TellTale was like "uh... yeah totally. We totally meant for it to come across like that. Yep. Completely intentional. Mmhmm."
Its quite unfortunate that people are so against the idea of a optional romance whether straight or homosexual. Its strange to me how so many people are sensitive to the idea of romances in Games, Tv,Movies,etc. But it could also be a double standard that its more acceptable for male protagonists to be shipped to different characters than it is to female ones ,meaning there isn't much opposition to the idea of it. I hope that this isn't the case with this fandom but it seems to be the case especially with you so called overprotective parents of Clementine, like your okay with her killing men and cursing talking about her period but just the thought of Clementine being with someone causes you to flip out yeah that's hypocritical.
This is sickening to read I’m tired of you weirdos coming out of the wood work constantly to talk about Clem’s sexuality.
This type of comments aren't gonna help you know,just saying.
I'm not even talking about it anymore it's just people coming on this thread and saying "oh i'm tired of you guys" and here we go again,just let this thread die already if you don't have anything good to say.
To be fair, she'll be 16 in TFS. That's legal consenting age in many(most?) places around the world, even some states in the US. Additionally, I'm sure a lot of players are around that age so it's not weird for them to talk or think about it at all.
All that said, I don't care one way or the other.
Because a tv show is different than a game. Especially in a game series driven towards your choices. Have a relationship forced on someone in a game who the player does not want to happen can be annoying
No no it's spelled bissexual. Completely different. You're gonna trigger someone if you keep confusing orientations like that
If it's done well then players get choices. Either pursue someone or don't or shut them down if you don't want it. TNF handled the Kate thing poorly for those that were trying to avoid it. It seems that they were depending on people going for Kate and didn't really plan for how to make that brotherly showdown happen without it so even if you denied Kate at every opportunity, it still got pushed there.
Which is dumb/weird considering they seemed to be backing off from the half-assed concept with the direction shift in Thicker than Water.
Man, is From the Gallows such a blatantly rushed and lazy hot mess of an episode.
I agree with you, but it shouldn't be a problem if its optional.
I'm just gonna say that this wouldn't even be subject to discussion during a zombie apocalypse, people would have real problems to worry about instead of yammering over their sexuality or being confused about their gender, gimme a break would ya, just give me a good story about survival and keep that nonsens far away from the upcoming season,
please and thank you!
Telltale's kinda bad at romance in general. Its always heavily biased and kinda forces the player to go with it.
Problem is "optional" romance in Telltale games is kinda non-existent. Each game with a romance constantly pushes down that road, even if you get past the part that should be a "no romance, I dont want this at all" type of choice.
The one "romance" that happens kinda out of no where with no real player input but is determinant is Clem X Gabe, which was horrible. Happens out of no where, and the algorithm that determent why it happens makes even less sense.
It shouldn't have been thing outside of occasional fanworks and more TakeThat! jokes to begin with.
Telltale does have a problem with optional romances but they just need to work on it, yes they fucked up bad with Anf but they have also handled other romances well like Batman. So people need to let that go and not hate on people for wanting it in the game.
Gabentine makes sense because they're about the same age. Aside from his little sister, Clem is the only other girl around his age that Gabe has seen since the ZA started and at his age his hormones are running rampant and he'd get the hots for just about anyone with a vajimjam. Likewise, Gabe is probably the only boy her age that Clem has spent any time around and just like his hormones are running wild on him, so are hers, as evidenced by her getting her period. It's honestly a perfectly natural response for both of them to crush on each other. The weird thing is it kinda' coming out of nowhere.
All that said, I made sure Gabe died in my game because fuck that little emo bitch baby lol.
That's the only logic everyone subscribed with( initially).
And they were allegedly the same age. Stupid status quo.
. * Insert self-imposed fakeout'd Amid the Ruins callback here. *
If by natural you mean biological, they sure, maybe. If you meant in terms of their characters, that's [mostly] a damn lie.
Fixed.
I'm hopeful we'll get some decent representation this season. Like, actually decent.
What, you don't like Spacey Asian Dude shackin up with a Considerably Older White Teacher Man?
I don't like (or need) them both non-determinantly dead in their debut episode. With their relationship left ambiguous.
Fair enough.
I did mean biological, yes.
No, Batman still heavily pushes towards a Selina and Bruce romance as well as making a major plot point be involved with them being together, the whole Harvey thinking Selina is cheating, that type of stuff. The sad part is this romance is seen as "better" because her role in the story becomes super small after episode 3 after the romance choice, making it so it was easier to make the romance "fair" because she is just gone if you said yes or no.
Yeah my bad for not clarifying enough but I was kinda talking about Batman the enemy within where you can either friend zone Selina or make her an enemy which makes her a opional romance option.
Yeah I agree
I agree 100%. Stole the words right out of my mouth. Well technically not my mouth but rather my fingers…. because well... this is an internet forum and… you communicate by typing words with you fingers rather than speaking because... I’ll... just... shut up now.
Well actually he is not right and here is why. Humans are social creatures, it is not enough to merely survive. People need reasons to survive, loved ones...people counting on them. Simply surviving is not enough for a lot of people. Alone in a world where it may seem hopeless...how do you not eat the end of your gun? So in as much as it is bothersome for some...relationships are important. People are people and will form bonds in any situation.