Carlos was not really a doctor

Any doctor, even a first year med student, would be able to easily tell the difference between a human/zombie bite and a dog bite. Even if they don't know exactly what a dog bite looks like, they could easily see that the bite wasn't a human bite, therefore couldn't be a zombie bite. Carlos was not a doctor. He was a fraud and used the "I'm a doctor" lie to make himself an important member of the survivor group as a way to get people to help look after his daughter.

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  • edited April 2018


    Which is exactly why Carver put him in charge of looking after Rebecca.

    Either way, The Bossman has not so recently spoken.

  • I think Carlos was seen as a doctor among the group on the sole basis of being slightly more knowledgeable in regards to the medical field.

    Carlos never really showed any medical experience or knowledge of being a doctor throughout the season. Dr.Lingard showed more medical experience than Carlos.

  • Lingard was definitely a doctor, no doubt in my mind. He showed it. Carlos, not so much. Maybe he watched a lot of those medical dramas like grey's anatomy and knew just enough to BS an interview and pass as a doctor lol.

    Chibikid posted: »

    I think Carlos was seen as a doctor among the group on the sole basis of being slightly more knowledgeable in regards to the medical field.

  • edited April 2018

    Yes. This is what young doctors study; telling a difference between dog and zombie bite. We should all ask our doctors, test their knowledge and separate the real ones from... Carlos types.

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    Yes, that's the takeaway from this lol. Anyone who can't look at a bite and recognize that it doesn't have a human bite pattern can't be a doctor. I'm gonna assume you are not a doctor but I'm betting even you could look at a dog bite and recognize that it's not a human bite. Even if you don't know what it actually is, you'd know it wasn't human.

    But I guess in fairness to Carlos, every adult allied with Clem in season 2 was fucking retarded. They had to be so that the player, playing as the little girl, could still make decisions.

    Yes. This is what young doctors study; telling a difference between dog and zombie bite. We should all ask our doctors, test their knowledge and separate the real ones from... Carlos types.

  • To be fair, Carlos "showing it" kinda required someone to be hurt just enough for him to be able do something.

    So apparently, Kenny didn't come back out of nowhere.

    Lingard was definitely a doctor, no doubt in my mind. He showed it. Carlos, not so much. Maybe he watched a lot of those medical dramas like grey's anatomy and knew just enough to BS an interview and pass as a doctor lol.

  • Check my link.

    Yes. This is what young doctors study; telling a difference between dog and zombie bite. We should all ask our doctors, test their knowledge and separate the real ones from... Carlos types.

  • As I recall, Carlos just put a bandage over Kenny's eye and said "idk, orbital is crushed and he's probably gonna lose the eye," which anyone else in the group could have done. To be fair, he didn't really have the supplies to do any more, but he didn't act as if he could have done more, either. He did know a bone name, the orbital bone (eye socket), but I'm no doctor and I can name several bones in the body lol.

    DabigRG posted: »

    To be fair, Carlos "showing it" kinda required someone to be hurt just enough for him to be able do something. So apparently, Kenny didn't come back out of nowhere.

  • He also mentioned cleaning it and there being a lot of swelling as well, so it's not like he didn't get his hands dirty(which is a disgusting thought, now that I've said it). And it had presumably been a few hours since Bonnie told him to get to work, so he was at it for while.

    As I recall, Carlos just put a bandage over Kenny's eye and said "idk, orbital is crushed and he's probably gonna lose the eye," which anyon

  • edited April 2018

    We discussed this in the past and debunked the whole Carlos not knowing the difference thing and that it actually could have been mistaken for a zombie bite.

  • I always found this to be a weird argument. Im sure if a crazy dead thing starting gnawing on your arm in an inhuman manor it could end up looking like a dog bite. Not to mention half the reason the group doesnt trust Clem is because they already had experience of letting someone in who was bitten, getting their own killed. And finally its not like Carlos has a degree in distinguishing what type of bite mark someone has, the point is they are being careful because this bite could mean death to all of them if they arnt careful, they dont want to risk it no matter what.

  • Yeah Carlos mistaking a dog bite for a human bite really wasn't realistic, but it made for an entertaining story so I don't care.

  • Yeah Carlos mistaking a dog bite for a decaying human bite really wasn't realistic, but it made for an entertaining story so I don't care.

    Fixed.

    Veeeee posted: »

    Yeah Carlos mistaking a dog bite for a human bite really wasn't realistic, but it made for an entertaining story so I don't care.

  • It's worth noting that Stephen McManus(?) stopped just short of saying "Yes, he was" to reference Gameover_Ent's video, which he thought was such a fascinating theory.

  • In the midst of a shattered society, anyone with some more advanced knowledge may well be considered an expert on something. Although we have not yet seen any school or college still functioning in full zombie apocalypse.

  • A zombie bites and they take chunks because they're eating. A dog bites and they latch on to wrestle and do damage. There's a huge difference between a dog bite and a zombie bite, not just shape.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    I always found this to be a weird argument. Im sure if a crazy dead thing starting gnawing on your arm in an inhuman manor it could end up l

  • Yeah but there really is no way to mistake the two. Dog teeth are for ripping and tearing...they are thinner and shaped way differently...human teeth are for cutting and chewing...your front teeth allow for more or less uniform bites that are easily managed for chewing with your back teeth. I have seen both types of bites, even when a human hopped on drugs is biting someone...the teeth are not strong enough to tear flesh like a dog does...human bits tend to be shallow with tons of bruising around the bite from the teeth sliding from the initial bite when someone pulls away. Dog bites are ripped up afairs due to the strength of the neck muscles shaking the pray. If anything they underplayed what Clem's are wound would look like....the ends of her would look pretty shocking. But I forgive them this because Sam was starved and could have been relatively weak.

    Human bite above....Dog Below

    Melton23 posted: »

    We discussed this in the past and debunked the whole Carlos not knowing the difference thing and that it actually could have been mistaken for a zombie bite.

  • Yeah, I still think it’s a bit suspicious that Carlos never knew

    Yeah but there really is no way to mistake the two. Dog teeth are for ripping and tearing...they are thinner and shaped way differently...h

  • Caras, é apenas um jogo!!

  • He does consider it as a strong possibility if you tell him about it. He just doesn't do much beyond [determinately?] apologize for still delaying treatment because plot.

    Melton23 posted: »

    Yeah, I still think it’s a bit suspicious that Carlos never knew

  • Found photograph of Carlos preparing for an emergency medical procedure (pre-apocalypse):

  • Zombies have still been shown to tug not just bite and rip, Sarita has a walker tugging on her hand.

    A zombie bites and they take chunks because they're eating. A dog bites and they latch on to wrestle and do damage. There's a huge difference between a dog bite and a zombie bite, not just shape.

  • Why are people still quibbling over this? There are a lot of things in season 2 that don't make sense, namely a large number of people opening fire on each other at close range with the only resulting fatalities being enemies. Carlos not being able to tell a dog bite from a zombie bite doesn't say he's uneducated it says realism wasn't crucial to the plot the writers ultimately went with.

  • But he literally fixed up Kenny's eye the best that he could. I'm pretty sure that he was a doctor and he just couldn't identify what bit Clem's arm, which is understandable. Also pretty sure that Sarah wouldn't be able to keep it a secret if her dad was lying to literally everyone. Also pretty sure that Carver and his entire community would catch on very fast if their only doctor was a quack.

  • Also pretty sure that Sarah wouldn't be able to keep it a secret if her dad was lying to literally everyone.

    My only question here is wondering why the heck she would be in that position to begin with? :lol:

    But he literally fixed up Kenny's eye the best that he could. I'm pretty sure that he was a doctor and he just couldn't identify what bit C

  • I mean Sarah would clearly remember what her dad actually did for a living and I feel like she would be incapable of going along with that lie for so long.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Also pretty sure that Sarah wouldn't be able to keep it a secret if her dad was lying to literally everyone. My only question here is wondering why the heck she would be in that position to begin with?

  • Sarah was autistic or something. He could have been lying to her her whole life. Maybe he was... idk what you call them, the people that move patients around the hospital, and it was easier to tell her he was a doctor than try to explain the difference.

  • Hm...I suppose that's a fair point.
    The thing is that as far as we've seen, Sarah would probably be more apt to just keep quiet, though that's mostly in reference to situations like what happened in the Greenhouse.

    I mean Sarah would clearly remember what her dad actually did for a living and I feel like she would be incapable of going along with that lie for so long.

  • I really don't think she was austic(Granted, I'm not exactly an expert on the topic), but I suppose she could've be naive enough to just go with the idea...for a little while, anyway.
    The thing is, whether due to knowing him for years or simply having a better grasp at reading people than she sometimes let's on, she's smart enough to gauge his true intent and figure out when he's lying. Thus, she would've realized if he was not actually a hands on medical practitioner.

    You know, if the people around them didn't pick up on his hypothetical fraudulence and expose him first.

    Sarah was autistic or something. He could have been lying to her her whole life. Maybe he was... idk what you call them, the people that mov

  • Out of all the plot holes in TWD you guys chose to argue over this one.

  • But Memes, Wiz, Memes!

    That's what happens when you end up essentially making your character a strawman.

    Out of all the plot holes in TWD you guys chose to argue over this one.

  • You have to admit that it's a pretty glaring one, a doctor that can't even recognize that a bite isn't anywhere close to the shape of a human/zombie bite.

    Out of all the plot holes in TWD you guys chose to argue over this one.

  • carlos is an idiot yes, but not being able to tell a dog bite from a walker bite is hardly the worst thing in season 2

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