You know, this just gives further credence to my issue with the games feeling the need to kill off an overwhelming majority of it's characters. There are so very few established characters out there they could feasibly follow for an episode or two. If they do decide to do more games in the same/similar continuity, they're almost certainly gonna have to do newer characters and probably different locals.
The only thing I'm concerned about during the future of the game, if it has one, is the fact that they haven't made a character that the fanbase truly cared about since Season 1 with Lee and Clem. Killing off Clem would probably be the worst possible thing regarding the series because they would've killed off one of the most, if not the most, cared about characters in the entire series. They've time jumped so much it's hindering the development of characters like AJ and even Clem at this point. We've only seen a few months of her entire childhood, and now she's a teenager. Telltale hasn't done a good job at character development in a while for this series.
You know, this just gives further credence to my issue with the games feeling the need to kill off an overwhelming majority of it's characte… morers. There are so very few established characters out there they could feasibly follow for an episode or two. If they do decide to do more games in the same/similar continuity, they're almost certainly gonna have to do newer characters and probably different locals.
I honestly don't know what to say on this.
Like, I should reinstate that almost everything is bound to have it's fan[ba]s[e], but then I have to remember my own damn point.
The only thing I'm concerned about during the future of the game, if it has one, is the fact that they haven't made a character that the fan… morebase truly cared about since Season 1 with Lee and Clem. Killing off Clem would probably be the worst possible thing regarding the series because they would've killed off one of the most, if not the most, cared about characters in the entire series. They've time jumped so much it's hindering the development of characters like AJ and even Clem at this point. We've only seen a few months of her entire childhood, and now she's a teenager. Telltale hasn't done a good job at character development in a while for this series.
How about an idea (if TFS is in fact not final TWD game from them) that they might go back to the very beginnings of The Walking Dead? I mean to the time when the outbreak started and follow a new group of survivors, new characters etc.? Maybe with a possible cameos from previous characters that appeared in previous series (like Molly, Christa, Lilly, Vernon, maybe 400 days characters)?
Actually it may not be that bad. Assuming ANF Season 2 would be a prequel to Season 4, Clem would be in it regardless of if she lives or dies in Season 4. It would probably take place during the giant time gap in between Season 3 and 4.
For me, one of the few appeals of ANF was the often complicated, yet loving relationships within the Garcia family.....Too many determinant characters in Javier's immediate family in order for that dynamic to exist in a sequel (at least in any meaningful way).
Clem would be in it regardless of if she lives or dies in Season 4
The problem with this is if it's going to be about Javier and his journey, Clementine should be nowhere in this game. Nobody wanted to have Clem in ANF and NOT get to play as her. If they were going to make ANF, it should've been a mini series where Clementine didn't show up at all. In "ANF S2", Clem shouldn't be anywhere present.
Actually it may not be that bad. Assuming ANF Season 2 would be a prequel to Season 4, Clem would be in it regardless of if she lives or dies in Season 4. It would probably take place during the giant time gap in between Season 3 and 4.
How about an idea (if TFS is in fact not final TWD game from them) that they might go back to the very beginnings of The Walking Dead? I mea… moren to the time when the outbreak started and follow a new group of survivors, new characters etc.? Maybe with a possible cameos from previous characters that appeared in previous series (like Molly, Christa, Lilly, Vernon, maybe 400 days characters)?
Just a thought.
For me, one of the few appeals of ANF was the often complicated, yet loving relationships within the Garcia family.....Too many determinant … morecharacters in Javier's immediate family in order for that dynamic to exist in a sequel (at least in any meaningful way).
A New Frontier really made me want a Walking Dead game where you can build a community from scratch. Not one of those garbage P2W mobile games, a legit Walking Dead game where you can create a character and try to build a community.
I have a feeling that this wont be the "final" season about Clementine. It all really depends how well this season will be received and how TFS ends. If this is atleast the second best game in the series and Clem is still alive in the end, i can see them making another game. Especially if other Telltale titles fail to get similar popularity as The Walking Dead series. Clementine is the face of TT and returning to her story at a point where the company needs to "get out there more" would be logical. If this season ends up being another flop then I think this will be The Final Season.
I don't even watch the TV Show, so when I think of the Walking Dead, Clementine is the first person that comes to mind for me.
Killing her off and ending the series would be a gigantic waste of potential. Apparently they dropped the whole love angle with Gabe, they dropped ANF completely in Season 4, and I feel like after Season 4 a lot of questions would still be unanswered.
From what it looks like on this site, the Walking Dead seems to be the most popular game they've made. I don't understand why they're in such a rush to end it if they actually are ending it.
Right now, more points to this being Clem's last season. The voice actor had to "say goodbye" to the character already. Although, she may grow up after this season and need a deeper voice if it were to continue.
I have a feeling that this wont be the "final" season about Clementine. It all really depends how well this season will be received and how … moreTFS ends. If this is atleast the second best game in the series and Clem is still alive in the end, i can see them making another game. Especially if other Telltale titles fail to get similar popularity as The Walking Dead series. Clementine is the face of TT and returning to her story at a point where the company needs to "get out there more" would be logical. If this season ends up being another flop then I think this will be The Final Season.
Killing her off and ending the series would be a gigantic waste of potential.
Totally agree. This 4th season will pretty much be only the third game that has Clementine in a significant role. ANF was just a terrible mistake in the middle and wasnt really about Clem. (What were they thinking not making her the protagonist and not continuing her story based on the S2 endings?)
The voice actor had to "say goodbye" to the character already.
Goodbye but not farewell? As in see u again? If they were to make another season, they would announce it in like 3+ years
I don't even watch the TV Show, so when I think of the Walking Dead, Clementine is the first person that comes to mind for me.
Killing he… morer off and ending the series would be a gigantic waste of potential. Apparently they dropped the whole love angle with Gabe, they dropped ANF completely in Season 4, and I feel like after Season 4 a lot of questions would still be unanswered.
From what it looks like on this site, the Walking Dead seems to be the most popular game they've made. I don't understand why they're in such a rush to end it if they actually are ending it.
Right now, more points to this being Clem's last season. The voice actor had to "say goodbye" to the character already. Although, she may grow up after this season and need a deeper voice if it were to continue.
I have a feeling that this wont be the "final" season about Clementine. It all really depends how well this season will be received and how … moreTFS ends. If this is atleast the second best game in the series and Clem is still alive in the end, i can see them making another game. Especially if other Telltale titles fail to get similar popularity as The Walking Dead series. Clementine is the face of TT and returning to her story at a point where the company needs to "get out there more" would be logical. If this season ends up being another flop then I think this will be The Final Season.
Well i think it should be the last one. Their games in general aren’t getting better in my opinion (please don’t bite my head off for my view because it’s how i have felt about Telltale for a long time). I just think there’s no point them endlessly dragging this series out to make it a cash cow even more than it already is
I haven't played other TT games than twd, but the quality of the games has dropped season by season in this series which is a shame when u think about the potential it has had. If TFS continues this pattern then i think it should be the last one. But I believe that this series still has the potential if these new changes they are making work and make the game much better. The story obviously has to be the best part in a TT game and Clementines story still has the potential to make great games and stories.
Their games in general aren’t getting better in my opinion
And if their games continue being like this for a few years after TFS then I can see them going at twd and clem again. Especially if TFS will be a (yuge) success.
Well i think it should be the last one. Their games in general aren’t getting better in my opinion (please don’t bite my head off for my vie… morew because it’s how i have felt about Telltale for a long time). I just think there’s no point them endlessly dragging this series out to make it a cash cow even more than it already is
I just wish they make these games for eternity. Only thing i dislike is that the episodes release every month, why not all in one month and i want them to make choices really matter and have some serious consequences, thats how telltale games are supposed to be..
Something like Detroit Become Human, but Telltale are joke to them.
Detroit is way WAY better than Telltale for the choice aspect. I’ve lost count at how many different ways a character can die in DBH. Such a fantastic game
I just wish they make these games for eternity. Only thing i dislike is that the episodes release every month, why not all in one month and … morei want them to make choices really matter and have some serious consequences, thats how telltale games are supposed to be..
Something like Detroit Become Human, but Telltale are joke to them.
And Detroit isn't a game that's going to see a sequel. Boggles my mind when people compare a one and done game to a series. And I'm a big fan of the devs. I enjoyed Indigo Prophecy, Heavy Rain, Beyond. All they produce are one off games that will never see a sequel, so each of these games has much more freedom than any franchise would have.
Detroit is way WAY better than Telltale for the choice aspect. I’ve lost count at how many different ways a character can die in DBH. Such a fantastic game
All they produce are one off games that will never see a sequel, so each of these games has much more freedom than any franchise would have.
Actually, I’d disagree with that. These “one and done” games don’t have nearly as much freedom as franchises do because once they pick a story, that’s what they’re doing. There’s rarely any time for subplots because of the length of the main plot, so you’re really only getting one or two stories with the occasional break.
Franchises, on the other hand, can tell whatever story and whatever sub plot they want whenever they want to because they have multiple episodes and seasons, giving them more freedom than the stand alone games.
And Detroit isn't a game that's going to see a sequel. Boggles my mind when people compare a one and done game to a series. And I'm a big fa… moren of the devs. I enjoyed Indigo Prophecy, Heavy Rain, Beyond. All they produce are one off games that will never see a sequel, so each of these games has much more freedom than any franchise would have.
These “one and done” games don’t have nearly as much freedom as franchises do because once they pick a story, that’s what they’re doing. There’s rarely any time for subplots because of the length of the main plot, so you’re really only getting one or two stories with the occasional break.
I have no idea what Detroit is, but that is indeed a major aspect in me becoming so disappointed and disinterested in this game series.
All they produce are one off games that will never see a sequel, so each of these games has much more freedom than any franchise would have.… more
Actually, I’d disagree with that. These “one and done” games don’t have nearly as much freedom as franchises do because once they pick a story, that’s what they’re doing. There’s rarely any time for subplots because of the length of the main plot, so you’re really only getting one or two stories with the occasional break.
Franchises, on the other hand, can tell whatever story and whatever sub plot they want whenever they want to because they have multiple episodes and seasons, giving them more freedom than the stand alone games.
These “one and done” games don’t have nearly as much freedom as franchises do because once they pick a story, that’s what they’re doing. The… morere’s rarely any time for subplots because of the length of the main plot, so you’re really only getting one or two stories with the occasional break.
I have no idea what Detroit is, but that is indeed a major aspect in me becoming so disappointed and disinterested in this game series.
And each season or sequel has to take into account any decisions you might have made. A self contained game doesn't need to worry about consistency, it's done when it's done.
All they produce are one off games that will never see a sequel, so each of these games has much more freedom than any franchise would have.… more
Actually, I’d disagree with that. These “one and done” games don’t have nearly as much freedom as franchises do because once they pick a story, that’s what they’re doing. There’s rarely any time for subplots because of the length of the main plot, so you’re really only getting one or two stories with the occasional break.
Franchises, on the other hand, can tell whatever story and whatever sub plot they want whenever they want to because they have multiple episodes and seasons, giving them more freedom than the stand alone games.
I know.
That's just what happens when you skim a conversation you have little clue and/or don't really care about and see something you'd like to concur/comment on.
And each season or sequel has to take into account any decisions you might have made. A self contained game doesn't need to worry about consistency, it's done when it's done.
I agree, but it's much easier to form a story driven game when you know you won't have to follow up with a sequel. Take Heavy Rain, you can end it in a variety of ways. But it ends very conclusively, compare that to season 1 or 2 of TWDG, where we're kind of left wondering. When a series has to build on the choices players make, it has to do so carefully
I agree, but it's much easier to form a story driven game when you know you won't have to follow up with a sequel. Take Heavy Rain, you can … moreend it in a variety of ways. But it ends very conclusively, compare that to season 1 or 2 of TWDG, where we're kind of left wondering. When a series has to build on the choices players make, it has to do so carefully
Clementine is so young they could easily keep the series going. It's just a matter if they want to at this point.
I honestly think it's a huge mistake to scrap their biggest franchise if this is actually the last season.
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I honestly don’t see how they would make more twd games but if they did, I would play them.
If "TWD:TFS" is only the end of Clementine's story, then I can only imagine telltale going back to the Garcias with Javier as the lead role.
You know, this just gives further credence to my issue with the games feeling the need to kill off an overwhelming majority of it's characters. There are so very few established characters out there they could feasibly follow for an episode or two. If they do decide to do more games in the same/similar continuity, they're almost certainly gonna have to do newer characters and probably different locals.
The only thing I'm concerned about during the future of the game, if it has one, is the fact that they haven't made a character that the fanbase truly cared about since Season 1 with Lee and Clem. Killing off Clem would probably be the worst possible thing regarding the series because they would've killed off one of the most, if not the most, cared about characters in the entire series. They've time jumped so much it's hindering the development of characters like AJ and even Clem at this point. We've only seen a few months of her entire childhood, and now she's a teenager. Telltale hasn't done a good job at character development in a while for this series.
I honestly don't know what to say on this.
Like, I should reinstate that almost everything is bound to have it's fan[ba]s[e], but then I have to remember my own damn point.
Not to mention, you know,...the pop setmind.
I'm actually seriously offended by this joke. Don't joke like that.It's not funny at all.?
How about an idea (if TFS is in fact not final TWD game from them) that they might go back to the very beginnings of The Walking Dead? I mean to the time when the outbreak started and follow a new group of survivors, new characters etc.? Maybe with a possible cameos from previous characters that appeared in previous series (like Molly, Christa, Lilly, Vernon, maybe 400 days characters)?
Just a thought.
Actually it may not be that bad. Assuming ANF Season 2 would be a prequel to Season 4, Clem would be in it regardless of if she lives or dies in Season 4. It would probably take place during the giant time gap in between Season 3 and 4.
For me, one of the few appeals of ANF was the often complicated, yet loving relationships within the Garcia family.....Too many determinant characters in Javier's immediate family in order for that dynamic to exist in a sequel (at least in any meaningful way).
The problem with this is if it's going to be about Javier and his journey, Clementine should be nowhere in this game. Nobody wanted to have Clem in ANF and NOT get to play as her. If they were going to make ANF, it should've been a mini series where Clementine didn't show up at all. In "ANF S2", Clem shouldn't be anywhere present.
I'd probably like that.
This.
Well, at best if you thought it was egalitarian enough in focus and/or development, let alone liked it.
A New Frontier really made me want a Walking Dead game where you can build a community from scratch. Not one of those garbage P2W mobile games, a legit Walking Dead game where you can create a character and try to build a community.
I have a feeling that this wont be the "final" season about Clementine. It all really depends how well this season will be received and how TFS ends. If this is atleast the second best game in the series and Clem is still alive in the end, i can see them making another game. Especially if other Telltale titles fail to get similar popularity as The Walking Dead series. Clementine is the face of TT and returning to her story at a point where the company needs to "get out there more" would be logical. If this season ends up being another flop then I think this will be The Final Season.
I don't even watch the TV Show, so when I think of the Walking Dead, Clementine is the first person that comes to mind for me.
Killing her off and ending the series would be a gigantic waste of potential. Apparently they dropped the whole love angle with Gabe, they dropped ANF completely in Season 4, and I feel like after Season 4 a lot of questions would still be unanswered.
From what it looks like on this site, the Walking Dead seems to be the most popular game they've made. I don't understand why they're in such a rush to end it if they actually are ending it.
Right now, more points to this being Clem's last season. The voice actor had to "say goodbye" to the character already. Although, she may grow up after this season and need a deeper voice if it were to continue.
Totally agree. This 4th season will pretty much be only the third game that has Clementine in a significant role. ANF was just a terrible mistake in the middle and wasnt really about Clem. (What were they thinking not making her the protagonist and not continuing her story based on the S2 endings?)
Goodbye but not farewell? As in see u again?
If they were to make another season, they would announce it in like 3+ years
...What.
You know exactly what lol
Wouldn't "get out there more" mean doing other things besides what they're used to doing?
Fair enough, I think his meaning was to get in touch with current fans than to draw in others
Yeah, I meant at a situation where other things aren't really working out for them
Well i think it should be the last one. Their games in general aren’t getting better in my opinion (please don’t bite my head off for my view because it’s how i have felt about Telltale for a long time). I just think there’s no point them endlessly dragging this series out to make it a cash cow even more than it already is
I haven't played other TT games than twd, but the quality of the games has dropped season by season in this series which is a shame when u think about the potential it has had. If TFS continues this pattern then i think it should be the last one. But I believe that this series still has the potential if these new changes they are making work and make the game much better. The story obviously has to be the best part in a TT game and Clementines story still has the potential to make great games and stories.
And if their games continue being like this for a few years after TFS then I can see them going at twd and clem again. Especially if TFS will be a (yuge) success.
I just wish they make these games for eternity. Only thing i dislike is that the episodes release every month, why not all in one month and i want them to make choices really matter and have some serious consequences, thats how telltale games are supposed to be..
Something like Detroit Become Human, but Telltale are joke to them.
Detroit is way WAY better than Telltale for the choice aspect. I’ve lost count at how many different ways a character can die in DBH. Such a fantastic game
And Detroit isn't a game that's going to see a sequel. Boggles my mind when people compare a one and done game to a series. And I'm a big fan of the devs. I enjoyed Indigo Prophecy, Heavy Rain, Beyond. All they produce are one off games that will never see a sequel, so each of these games has much more freedom than any franchise would have.
Actually, I’d disagree with that. These “one and done” games don’t have nearly as much freedom as franchises do because once they pick a story, that’s what they’re doing. There’s rarely any time for subplots because of the length of the main plot, so you’re really only getting one or two stories with the occasional break.
Franchises, on the other hand, can tell whatever story and whatever sub plot they want whenever they want to because they have multiple episodes and seasons, giving them more freedom than the stand alone games.
I have no idea what Detroit is, but that is indeed a major aspect in me becoming so disappointed and disinterested in this game series.
Like SolidStryker said, it isn’t a series and it wasn’t necessarily just about Detroit, but alright, nothing I can do to change your opinion.
And each season or sequel has to take into account any decisions you might have made. A self contained game doesn't need to worry about consistency, it's done when it's done.
I know.
That's just what happens when you skim a conversation you have little clue and/or don't really care about and see something you'd like to concur/comment on.
Consistency should be present in both types of games, but this is completely off topic from the main thread so I’m just gonna drop it here.
I agree, but it's much easier to form a story driven game when you know you won't have to follow up with a sequel. Take Heavy Rain, you can end it in a variety of ways. But it ends very conclusively, compare that to season 1 or 2 of TWDG, where we're kind of left wondering. When a series has to build on the choices players make, it has to do so carefully
Clementine is so young they could easily keep the series going. It's just a matter if they want to at this point.
I honestly think it's a huge mistake to scrap their biggest franchise if this is actually the last season.
ANF made it quite clear that they wanted to stray away from the story they started in S1. If they're gonna end it, I'm glad they do it right.