I don't agree with absolutely everything he says but he made some good points. He noticed a lot of the significance to the writing of Season 2 that a lot of people unfortunately miss. Season 2's writing isn't as in your face as Season 1 and that is part of the reason I like it so much. It is subtle but effective and if you pay close attention and use your brain you will notice these significances. I really liked how Season 2 inverted the perspective of Season 1.
I remember watching podcasts way back when where the writers were explaining certain writing decisions about Season 2 that were really quite interesting. The dog at the beginning of the the game is meant to foreshadow and symbolize Kenny's arc. An individual that isn’t intentionally harmful but has been through so much pain and torture that they are no longer in control of themselves and at times can be unintentionally dangerous to those around them. Similar to how Clementine had to deal with the dog, she has to deal with Kenny except due to the extra time and relationship she had built with Kenny she has one additional option for her to choose. At the end of Season 2 Clementine has to choose to either put him out of misery, leave him, or pick up the wounded remains and try to fix things.
In that podcast I also remember them talking about how the alone ending is choreographed to resemble the after credits scene of Season 1 to show how much Clementine has grown. At the end of Season 1 Clementine is alone and she spots a potential threat in the distance. She has no idea who those figures are let alone how she would deal with them luckily for her they weren’t a threat. In the alone ending of Season 2 Clementine is put in a similar situation except this time she is well aware of exactly what lays ahead of her, that it is in fact a threat, and what actions she is going to take to deal with it.
The Wellington/Kenny and the Jane scenarios were also quite interesting. If Clem chose to spare Kenny and continues with him in search of Wellington she is put in the scenario of obtaining something greater for herself and AJ but obtaining it requires sacrifice and she has to choose if it is worth losing Kenny to enter Wellington.
The Jane scenarios essentially invert that scenario and put Clementine in the shoes of Edith. Clem sees that the supplies are running low and when the family shows up she is forced to make a decision. Normally the immediate reaction would be to let the family in but after dealing with such an awful experience and realizing that humans are the true monsters of this world, things get a little more complicated. The man was armed and the boy is obviously not the couples real child. While the couple were hopefully just kind people who took in this kid, it wouldn’t be out of the ordinary in the world of the walking dead for a couple to use a child as leverage to achieve food, supplies, and shelter for themselves. There is hardly any food left and Clem must choose if she is going to play it safe and put herself, AJ, and Jane above all else or if she is going to take pity on the family and let them in and deal with the potential risk of losing everything.
The maker of this video makes a lot of good points but the main thing I don't agree with in this video is his stance of there being a "good" ending. I feel like all of the Season 2 endings are powerful in their own way and they are way too morally complex to be "good" or "bad".
Lmao, I remember this vid from way back. I vaguely remember him spending the first few minutes boringly droning on and whining about season 2 in general. I closed tab at the speed of light when he revealed he was a Larry sympathiser. I can just tell that everything the guy says including the title of his video is complete bullshit and where the exact opposite is likely true.
Lmao, I remember watching this years ago. Isn't this the video that (falsely) claimed that if you're 100% anti-Kenny in season 1, he will literally take the boat all for himself without warning as the final "fuck you" to Lee? I would usually simply check myself, but this is an almost 23 minute video that I remember constantly rolling my eyes and facepalming at... so I really don't want to do it again. I did an anti-Kenny/pro-Lilly save once and that didn't happen at all, and that's not even mentioning all the LP's I've seen where that also didn't happen.
It is a bit late to reply to your comment but Job J Stauffer also mentioned it at SDCC last year and he said that when he took the time to look back at Season Two that it did look like Kenny’s was “Clementine’s abusive stepfather”
It is a bit late to reply to your comment but Job J Stauffer also mentioned it at SDCC last year and he said that when he took the time to look back at Season Two that it did look like Kenny’s was “Clementine’s abusive stepfather”
I could have sworn that he said Stepfather as Kenny does kind of slide in as a caretaker for Clementine in Season Two by looking out for her and having her safety in mind. It isn’t always apparent but that is how I view Kenny and Clementine’s relationship in Season Two
I could have sworn that he said Stepfather as Kenny does kind of slide in as a caretaker for Clementine in Season Two by looking out for her… more and having her safety in mind. It isn’t always apparent but that is how I view Kenny and Clementine’s relationship in Season Two
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Oh boy, this false advertising.
I don't hate Kenny but I like the points he makes in the video.
I don't agree with absolutely everything he says but he made some good points. He noticed a lot of the significance to the writing of Season 2 that a lot of people unfortunately miss. Season 2's writing isn't as in your face as Season 1 and that is part of the reason I like it so much. It is subtle but effective and if you pay close attention and use your brain you will notice these significances. I really liked how Season 2 inverted the perspective of Season 1.
I remember watching podcasts way back when where the writers were explaining certain writing decisions about Season 2 that were really quite interesting. The dog at the beginning of the the game is meant to foreshadow and symbolize Kenny's arc. An individual that isn’t intentionally harmful but has been through so much pain and torture that they are no longer in control of themselves and at times can be unintentionally dangerous to those around them. Similar to how Clementine had to deal with the dog, she has to deal with Kenny except due to the extra time and relationship she had built with Kenny she has one additional option for her to choose. At the end of Season 2 Clementine has to choose to either put him out of misery, leave him, or pick up the wounded remains and try to fix things.
In that podcast I also remember them talking about how the alone ending is choreographed to resemble the after credits scene of Season 1 to show how much Clementine has grown. At the end of Season 1 Clementine is alone and she spots a potential threat in the distance. She has no idea who those figures are let alone how she would deal with them luckily for her they weren’t a threat. In the alone ending of Season 2 Clementine is put in a similar situation except this time she is well aware of exactly what lays ahead of her, that it is in fact a threat, and what actions she is going to take to deal with it.
The Wellington/Kenny and the Jane scenarios were also quite interesting. If Clem chose to spare Kenny and continues with him in search of Wellington she is put in the scenario of obtaining something greater for herself and AJ but obtaining it requires sacrifice and she has to choose if it is worth losing Kenny to enter Wellington.
The Jane scenarios essentially invert that scenario and put Clementine in the shoes of Edith. Clem sees that the supplies are running low and when the family shows up she is forced to make a decision. Normally the immediate reaction would be to let the family in but after dealing with such an awful experience and realizing that humans are the true monsters of this world, things get a little more complicated. The man was armed and the boy is obviously not the couples real child. While the couple were hopefully just kind people who took in this kid, it wouldn’t be out of the ordinary in the world of the walking dead for a couple to use a child as leverage to achieve food, supplies, and shelter for themselves. There is hardly any food left and Clem must choose if she is going to play it safe and put herself, AJ, and Jane above all else or if she is going to take pity on the family and let them in and deal with the potential risk of losing everything.
The maker of this video makes a lot of good points but the main thing I don't agree with in this video is his stance of there being a "good" ending. I feel like all of the Season 2 endings are powerful in their own way and they are way too morally complex to be "good" or "bad".
Lmao, I remember this vid from way back. I vaguely remember him spending the first few minutes boringly droning on and whining about season 2 in general. I closed tab at the speed of light when he revealed he was a Larry sympathiser. I can just tell that everything the guy says including the title of his video is complete bullshit and where the exact opposite is likely true.
Lmao, I remember watching this years ago. Isn't this the video that (falsely) claimed that if you're 100% anti-Kenny in season 1, he will literally take the boat all for himself without warning as the final "fuck you" to Lee? I would usually simply check myself, but this is an almost 23 minute video that I remember constantly rolling my eyes and facepalming at... so I really don't want to do it again. I did an anti-Kenny/pro-Lilly save once and that didn't happen at all, and that's not even mentioning all the LP's I've seen where that also didn't happen.
I remember this......ttg actually seen it and commented on it back in s1-2 days but I don't remember what.
lol
It is a bit late to reply to your comment but Job J Stauffer also mentioned it at SDCC last year and he said that when he took the time to look back at Season Two that it did look like Kenny’s was “Clementine’s abusive stepfather”
Eh, Uncle, but whatever
I could have sworn that he said Stepfather as Kenny does kind of slide in as a caretaker for Clementine in Season Two by looking out for her and having her safety in mind. It isn’t always apparent but that is how I view Kenny and Clementine’s relationship in Season Two
Oh, I have no fuckin clue. I just prefer ["Honorary"]Uncle since it makes for a cleaner parallel with Season 1.