Clementine hallucinations idea
What do you think about the idea that Clem hallucinates previous characters, but mainly Lee. I'm mentioning this because that was exactly what was going on with Michonne and her kids. I think it would be absolutely awesome, emotional, and literally the best way to bring back Lee in some way - I think Lee has to be very relevant in some way or other towards Clem in this season, because, since this is the final season for her, psychological climax of Clem NEEDS to be reached, and, since Lee is the character Clem is by far most emotionally connected with without a doubt(even more than AJ), this would be absolutely awesome. Not doing something like this would be a waste of the potential that was built up throughout these seasons. Thoughts?
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Hope they don't do it like in Michonne
They were annoying and felt messy and out of place
NOTE: I have to say that I didn't intend to mean that the hallucinations would basically be negative energy full of feelings of fear, sorrow and guilt(like maybe she shouldn't have gone after stranger idk), just like it was with Michonne, but instead positive, Lee telling Clem he's proud, causing simultaneously tears, sadness, but also happiness in Clementine.
Maybe if Clem doesn't get that head wound from the recent teaser in the first episode, I would be open to having that injury result in her seeing a hallucination of someone from the past. Kinda like how she saw Lee after she was shot. please let it be Luke
I think if they balanced it better and don't overuse it to the same extent as Michonne, it could work. The thing is, if Clementine were to experience hallucinations with characters she knows, like Lee or Kenny, it'd have a much stronger impact than Michonne's children. Because we know these people. We were emotionally invested in them and saw their stories unfold. That gives us a reason to care. It's not some weird ghostly brats trying to badly scare their mother shitless.
But really it comes down to pacing. If Lee showed up as much as Michonne's kids, the nostalgia will end as abruptly as Kenny's car crash, and it'd get annoying. It's all about pacing it right.
tsukuyomi?
I don't want her seeing ghosts for a whole season like michonne.
But ONE scene where she sees the "ghosts" of everyone that's died around her since she was 8... that would be cool. Also a good way to send-off the series. You could do that classic "running down the lines of people thing"
I suppose I wouldn't mind that. In the appropriately told story/plot.
That sounds similar to my "Congratulations" ending/shot suggestion. Not entirely sure without a specific example, though?
I would love that.....for one episode not the full season tho because it'll be repetitive and it'll loose it's charm quickly,good idea tho.
We all wish the season was longer than 4 episodes but nobody wants it to go on that damn long.
I'd for some reason prefer dream sequences over hallucinations.
Yeah, that way, we can really get into the moment instead of having sudden nostalgia/continuity dumped onscreen for a brisk moment
Dreams and Hallucinations are all well and good. But I have always hoped for Clem to have a full on Psychotic Break from reality for awhile. Where some things are real and some things are hallucinations and Clem has to work out what is and isn't real, and there are options where we can have her just go with it. Like build a boat out of a cardboard box and name it the S.S Shitbird, or some other off the wall insanity.
Rick got a phone, let's at least give Clem an iPod with some messages from Lee and her parents on it.
Maybe after that car crash we could have a small scene where clem is still awake after the crash and can see someone trying to help her after the car crash with her having a hallucination of who it is which depending on your endings in season 2 could be either Kenny Jane or Javier ((With kenny appearing if you have either the alone ending where you leave him behind or the wellington ending where he would be seen without the hat. As for Jane you would only see her if you left her on the road. Meanwhile you would Get Javier if you got either the Kenny or Jane endings essentially making it so its someone Clementine knows could still be alive. Then later have her wake up all fixed up and hallucinating the person who s taking care of her to be whichever one of those three you got althought after taking a closer look the hallucination would dissapear.
Personally dont want anything like that. Im afraid it would play out like Michonne, but it probably would be a bit better considering we did know those characters instead of just Michonne and "MUH BABIES"
i feel like it could work if they actually speak to you normally like in the ending of Michonne s final episode instead of just having them appear randomly and do nothing.
Something similar could be when Clem faces walkers she would see them as her zombified parents
The reason why I think hallucinations are better than dreams in my opinion is that they have more impact on Clem than dreams. Remember s2 clem dreaming about lee? Sure it was cool, but when she woke up she didn't really care, it was just a dream. If hallucinations happened, Clem would be awake, and it would really make a greater emotional impact on her than dreams, especially if they involve some shit like Lee's hallucination talking to her - I know it's a bit supernatural but I think it would be still cool and emotional.
Mm, I suppose.
It'd help if they were somewhat extended hallucinations, like by 10 seconds or so. That way, you have time for what you're lookin at to sink in.
She needs to have a dream about the zombie-god visiting her and telling her that her world is his, and that he'll take everyone she knows. He communicates telepathically, so she'd hear his voice in her head with a slight echo, while his lips are still. And he can levitate. And he glows. And his presence can be felt.
I'd like that.
Clem: ''AJ! Wake up!''
AJ: (rubs eyes) ''Huh? Clem? Wha-''
Clem: ''We need to defeat the zombie god!''
AJ: ''Zombie god? Who the fuck is that?''
Clem: ''Swear''
AJ: ''It's getting old, really.''
Clem: ''Forget about that! I saw him in my dream!'' ......
And so, Clementine and AJ would embark on a quest to vanquish the zombie god, and finally relieve Planet Earth from a virus that changed it forever...
Oh fuck...Boss Walker has Dreamscaping powers too!
Off-hand, I dunno, it's been done in many video games I know that.
But it runs the risk of being really cheesy if not done well.
Yeah, no kiddin.
Ah well, a little cheese here and there can be good.
That sounds great. Clem’s been through as much(if not more) trauma then comic Rick’s been through. Something like the time loop scenes in “Life is Strange” episode 5 but with Clem and characters from past seasons would be awesome.
Yes I think that would be great, I think some kind of psychological climax needs to be reached. I just don't want Telltale to make it so ordinary, like just Clem going through different adventures with these new schoolboys, when, at the end of the story, she lives peaceful life in the school(or sacrifices herself for the greater good of AJ and other kids of the school). That would just be a waste. It really needs to have something special, something that's gonna blow fans away, something that's hitting directly into Clementine's past, and basis for her existence and success in survival. So far TWD has made a great build up, and now it's important to just do that "emotional explosion" in last episode, touching on her past - I really think that's how her story should be concluded - otherwise it's a waste of the potential and the amazingness of the character
Agreed. That’s why I’m hoping the main villain for the season is a returning character from Season 1(Lilly or Christa). They both had a major impact on Clementine’s life and would both make for compelling villains. As you said, I hope it’s not just a typical Walking Dead story with Clem dying at the end to save AJ. It needs to have an emotional hook beyond that, and a returning character is the perfect way to do that.
WHAT'S THE SOMETHING! Goodness I'm so thirsty for a good ending and I'm desperately seaching for some good fan-ideas for them.
Clem smokes the weed?
I honestly want a villain who is actually understanding, even moreso than Norma. I want Lily or whoever the villain is to have gone through an arc, in such a fashion that she is actually good and is willing to sacrifice for the greater good of others, willing to throw away the villain archetype and change for the better. Perhaps if she told Clem that her group and the boarding schoolers could work together with everyone being equal, as a true community. If they could come to an understanding of some sort, it's just that there's barely anyone alive by this point and barely any requistions or food. I don't know if it could fundamentally work but I want the story to be more about the struggles that a group faces rather than them having fights with people, although I would love to see a war in a telltale twd game.
I honestly wish they'd move on from Lee. Like I'm honestly sick of him being brought up all the time. Feels as though they'll use any excuse for Clem to say "I'm sad... also I knew a guy named Lee. He was pretty cool. He's dead though"
Lee could have powerful emotional impact. He's not been brought up after s1 a lot at all, and the reason lot of us would want him right now is because it would make one of the best moments ever, like he's the reason Clem is alive and managing to raise aj and she knows that, bringing him back in a way I mentioned would be very emotional for Clem and thus for the players. It's just that so much shit clems been through and basically all thanks to him, after 8 years of his death bringing him would be incredible and the community would agree in general(looking at loads of comments on yt videos)
Lee has been brought up a lot. In S2 with Christa you can say you miss him, then you can tell Luke about him. Plus almost every conversation with Kenny you would talk about him. Then there's the dream about him. It was fine in season 2 as it made sense as the death of Lee was still fresh in the minds of players. But seriously it's time to move on. Couldn't help but roll my eyes every time he was mentioned in ANF. I actually avoided it as much as I could. Lee gets brought up so damn needlessly and often that I'm starting to dislike him.
How many times was he actually mentioned in ANF?
I think one time. When Clementine speaks with Ava.
Heh. I meant in the way that both sides are prepared for the war and start out in separate sides. What happened in Thicker Than Water was just an execution gone wrong. Not a war. Just mass panic and chaos with sides having no order on what to do. Should've been clearer
That was miy point.
The menu card and Above the Law were clearly setting a multi-sided Civil War within Richmond, but Thicker than Water and especially From the Gallows didn't go through with it.