you are over reaching HES A KID RASIED AFTER THE OUTBREAK HE DOESNT HAVE THAT SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH TO.A PERSON WHO LIVED BEFORE THE OUTBREAK WILL FIND DISTURBING. got it？
That's right. But Aj's not here and he's not real. I'm talking and disagreeing with you. But like Dex-Starr said, i'm done. I wasn't trying to convince anyone but continuing a conversation with someone who won't listen to anything anyone is saying is redundant and pointless.
I am resigning from my un-obligated duty of trying to convince you Marlon was no longer a threat once the gun was out of his hands, and had given up. Please enjoy this picture of frogs talking about some box
That's right. But Aj's not here and he's not real. I'm talking and disagreeing with you. But like Dex-Starr said, i'm done. I wasn't trying … moreto convince anyone but continuing a conversation with someone who won't listen to anything anyone is saying is redundant and pointless.
You have it completely wrong. AJ was happy that he caught a fish and helped get food for the group. He wasn't relishing the fact that he ended an animal's life. He wasn't tearing the fish's scales off and laughing at its suffering. He caught it and put it in the bucket and was happy. His wording was a bit off but he wasnt being a psycho, he was being an asset.
Ignoring the stupid argument that AJ couldn't see or hear what was going on (everyone else could hear just fine), you mean the same weapon t… morehat the "man" threatening his "mom" took from him, then dropped or had taken from him and thrown down? That same weapon that by sheer virtue of getting it back, AJ would know the "man" no longer had it? That weapon? That one? No, there's literally no excuse for what AJ did. There's absolutely no way he still thought Clem was in enough danger to warrant shooting Marlon. If that were the case, he'd have shot the guy in the train station without a word because that guy never did drop his gun and remained a threat the entire time he was there.
Sure, if AJ had shot him during the standoff, absolutely. But AJ didn't shoot Marlon during the standoff (he couldn't). AJ shot him after th… moree standoff was over and Marlon was no longer a threat. AJ just straight up executed him. He wasn't defending anyone. He executed Marlon.
Let's put this in other terms. Imagine a bank robbery. Robber has the bank manager hostage. Robber is talked down or otherwise disarmed, drops his gun and gives up. As he presents himself to the police for arrest, one of the bank employees picks up the gun the robber dropped and blows his brains out. Is the employee justified? Fuck no lol.
Okay as soon as you became disrespectful, you lost all credibility with me.
Also, I'm pretty sure I've already stated that AJ resembles a child soldier with how he lacks empathy for human life which is something that is exhibited in third world countries. So, no, you aren't stealing my counterargument, either.
Cops oooh yeah let's use modern laws and trials to justify this . No fuck you . You want to justify it look up a war torn third world countr… morey and see what they'd say on the matter. Fuck you you don't get to try to go oh well it would be first degree bullshit the arresting officer is a walker the prosecutor is a walker the judge is a walker the whole damn system are walkers. You execute the threat as soon as you have the chance.
Like I've previously stated, had Clementine never broke out of the basement, odds are he would've still shot Marlon simply because he didn't know what he had done with her.
If he had shot Marlon while Marlon was waving the gun around he'd have been a magician with a spare gun. He didn't have the opportunity to shoot Marlon UNTIL Marlon was disarmed and Marlon was still a threat to his and Clem's safety.
Exactly! That's it for me on Disco Broccoli, I'm changing my avatar to Marlon to show my support for his misunderstood character. Telltale really shouldn't have killed him off this way.
Man...I don't see how anyone could still see Marlon as a threat at that moment. Especially if you talked him down peacefully. If you mean in regards to a future threat, you can't execute someone for something they MIGHT do in the future.
There is the theory floating around that the entire ending sequence where Clem woke up is just a dream and none of it actually happened, Clem's worrying about people not being what they seem and also worrying about AJ's development manifesting in a nightmare and that episode 2 will start with Clem waking up from the nightmare and having to deal with the emotions.
Idk if I buy it, the supporting evidence is... flimsy. The best piece of supporting evidence is how Marlon goes from pretty well put together and nice to a complete asshole without any transition, it's just 0 to 60 in an instant. Clem goes to sleep and he's clearly stressing but still cool, then she wakes up and he's raging violent douchebag mcgee.
Also explains how AJ managed to move from the back of the group, behind Clem, to pick up the gun and move over by Rosie and no one saw it. It's like he teleported, like in a dream.
Exactly! That's it for me on Disco Broccoli, I'm changing my avatar to Marlon to show my support for his misunderstood character. Telltale really shouldn't have killed him off this way.
There is the theory floating around that the entire ending sequence where Clem woke up is just a dream and none of it actually happened, Cle… morem's worrying about people not being what they seem and also worrying about AJ's development manifesting in a nightmare and that episode 2 will start with Clem waking up from the nightmare and having to deal with the emotions.
Idk if I buy it, the supporting evidence is... flimsy. The best piece of supporting evidence is how Marlon goes from pretty well put together and nice to a complete asshole without any transition, it's just 0 to 60 in an instant. Clem goes to sleep and he's clearly stressing but still cool, then she wakes up and he's raging violent douchebag mcgee.
Also explains how AJ managed to move from the back of the group, behind Clem, to pick up the gun and move over by Rosie and no one saw it. It's like he teleported, like in a dream.
i still saw him as a threat and wished i had the option to kill him myself. as soon as i picked "make him leave" option i immediately regretted it because i thought he was gonna go straight to the raiders and sell us out. i was so relieved when aj shot him. i'm kinda surprised aj shoots him no matter what tho. i was teaching aj to be hella hard through the whole episodes so i thought that was the reason, but i guess it's a story thing.
every other option was bad too imo. "forgive and move on" and "lock him in the basement" both seemed like he'd escape or try to turn everyone at the school against me for revenge. he had to die tbh. for safety reasons. i should've been more open to silence being a valid option. ;(
Exactly! That's it for me on Disco Broccoli, I'm changing my avatar to Marlon to show my support for his misunderstood character. Telltale really shouldn't have killed him off this way.
True. If this was a court case, AJ would be getting tried for 1st degree murder. Regardless of how half this forum is trying to justify his … moreactions. If Clem never would've escaped the basement, I'm pretty sure he would've still shot him. Lee wasn't that type of guy.
I've seen that thread and am one of the people that's open to that possibility. It would make for some out-of-the-box storytelling that Telltale hasn't tried before but the show has.
I'll also like to toss in that although we don't know Kirkman's involvement in TWDG, Gimple DOES have some sway.
This would be an escape from their shock value deaths that have been received with poor reception when used in the past w/ John Fairbanks & Mariana. Moreover, it would show they can pull off some Transcendence-esque Hollywood type storytelling for a change. I mentioned in that thread since this game is suppose to be using "Lord of the Flies" as a theme, that Marlon's head shot cold be symbolic for when Simon talked to the impaled Pig's head on the stick during a hallucination.
There is the theory floating around that the entire ending sequence where Clem woke up is just a dream and none of it actually happened, Cle… morem's worrying about people not being what they seem and also worrying about AJ's development manifesting in a nightmare and that episode 2 will start with Clem waking up from the nightmare and having to deal with the emotions.
Idk if I buy it, the supporting evidence is... flimsy. The best piece of supporting evidence is how Marlon goes from pretty well put together and nice to a complete asshole without any transition, it's just 0 to 60 in an instant. Clem goes to sleep and he's clearly stressing but still cool, then she wakes up and he's raging violent douchebag mcgee.
Also explains how AJ managed to move from the back of the group, behind Clem, to pick up the gun and move over by Rosie and no one saw it. It's like he teleported, like in a dream.
That depends. I'm of the opinion that he had already decided he wanted to kill Marlon initially after discovering Clem was missing. Had she not emerged from the basement, I'm positive he would've continued to shoot Marlon whether he revealed his dealings with the raiders or not. AJ's previous act of elbowing him in the groin could also be spun as a mild form of animosity toward him if it's properly argued before the jurors.
Marlon was someone that saved this kid from a car crash surrounded by walkers and he repaid this kindness by being a menace from day 1 & even after Clem recovered. He didn't tell her they didn't like him on the 1st night of dinner simply because there was no reason. He had already made himself come off as an unruly nuisance prior to Clem awakening. I wouldn't be surprised if others like Ruby were trying to figure out how she made it this long with him around, behaving like he does.
Personally I find it absurd that you're demonizing AJ for killing a guy who gave away two members of his group away to raiders, lied about it to the rest of the group (including the younger brother of the girls he betrayed), killed the one person who knew the secret and tried to come clean about it and do the right thing, and then tried framing and murdering a girl over something she didn't do.
"Misunderstood" is a gross understatement and I'm frankly appalled that you would want to "show your support" for such a character. Marlon was a coward and a traitor and what he did is one of the worst offenses we have ever seen from a character in this series.
Exactly! That's it for me on Disco Broccoli, I'm changing my avatar to Marlon to show my support for his misunderstood character. Telltale really shouldn't have killed him off this way.
If the details we've learned about the school can be trusted, then all of the students have been living without any guidance, protection, or direction from adults since the beginning of the outbreak. All of the staff abandoned them to fend for themselves.
This would suggest that Marlon would've been around the same age Clementine had been when we found her as Lee, attempting to lead his friends, and classmates against starvation, undead, and eventually raiders. Depending on dialogue choices, it's learned that 30 or so students have died since this began.
Does this excuse Marlon's decisions, or murdering Brody even accidentally? No. No more so than being born in the outbreak excuses AJ for killing Marlon once he'd been talked down. It's unfortunate, if for no other reason than it eliminates the possibility of interrogating the only surviving person who could provide some answers regarding these raiders. Only he and Brody could've given the group some idea of where they might be, what kind of numbers they might have, and what sort of weapons they might be facing.
Would it have been exact information even if he told us the truth? No, but even knowing if it were a large party all with guns would be really useful. Should Marlon have ultimately died anyway? Quite possibly, but what was to be done with him ought to have been a group decision. I think that would've made an interesting opening to Ep2, speaking to them to sway votes to what the player favors.
Neither Marlon nor AJ are characters without a sympathetic background. It's hard to imagine after so many games with so many people willing to die ( and in fact dying ) for Clementine, an alternate life of abandonment, the stress and toll of life or death decisions on a child some of which resulted in death, and the fear they all have to live with beyond their Lost Boys attitude we stumble into as Clementine.
Personally I find it absurd that you're demonizing AJ for killing a guy who gave away two members of his group away to raiders, lied about i… moret to the rest of the group (including the younger brother of the girls he betrayed), killed the one person who knew the secret and tried to come clean about it and do the right thing, and then tried framing and murdering a girl over something she didn't do.
"Misunderstood" is a gross understatement and I'm frankly appalled that you would want to "show your support" for such a character. Marlon was a coward and a traitor and what he did is one of the worst offenses we have ever seen from a character in this series.
It's not denial, I just think calling Aj a psychopath is to cheap a way to diagnose what he has dude. And maybe you should learn the definition of a psychopath, if you did you wouldn't be suggesting that Aj a little boy at his age, is a psychopath. You can't just chalk it up to oh he's just sick in the head, no there are very good reasons for why Aj is the way he is. And your acting like actual child psychologists, from our world would so easily be able to diagnose Aj you're wrong. A real child psychologist would need to analyze every detail of behavior, his environment, and other factors . After you've done that can you really still call Aj a psychopath?
Interrogating Marlon would have done very little to help us. For all intents and purposes we are already going to assume they are a sizeable group that is armed, him confirming that would change nothing. And there's no telling that Marlon would have even known the exact details. He may have only dealt with a fraction of their group, but like I said it wouldn't matter anyways because for all intents and purposes Clem is already going to assume there is a group of armed adults that we really don't want to tangle with.
I also don't think voting would be the greatest idea. This group has been sheltered more than Clem has and they're already biased because Marlon was their friend. Clem is the best judge here because she is unbiased and has survival in mind after so many years surviving on the road. Keeping Marlon alive, whether exiling him or keeping him around or as a prisoner, is really not a realistic solution and I don't trust the boarding school kids to see that.
Both AJ and Marlon have sympathetic backgrounds, I'm not arguing that. But while AJ's actions were understandable and somewhat impulsive, Martin's actions were mostly calculated and he knew exactly what he was doing. Plus AJ is a very young child while Marlon is practically an adult. Marlon deserves little to no sympathy or support for his actions.
If the details we've learned about the school can be trusted, then all of the students have been living without any guidance, protection, or… more direction from adults since the beginning of the outbreak. All of the staff abandoned them to fend for themselves.
This would suggest that Marlon would've been around the same age Clementine had been when we found her as Lee, attempting to lead his friends, and classmates against starvation, undead, and eventually raiders. Depending on dialogue choices, it's learned that 30 or so students have died since this began.
Does this excuse Marlon's decisions, or murdering Brody even accidentally? No. No more so than being born in the outbreak excuses AJ for killing Marlon once he'd been talked down. It's unfortunate, if for no other reason than it eliminates the possibility of interrogating the only surviving person who could provide some answers regarding these raiders. Only he and Brody could've given t… [view original content]
To be honest, I don't really disagree with your overall point, but where psychopaths aren't able to feel empathy, AJ clearly feels love and empathy for Clementine, and when he apologises to Ruby (rather than with Marlon), he seems genuinely happy to have been forgiven.
If he were genuinely a psychopath, he wouldn't have shown those feelings, unless we're going down the route of him being a sociopath, and those feelings were just an act, but I don't think a 6 year old is smart enough for that.
Of course he is wrong. But I think you forgot that Aj is 6/7 and you're probably alot older. Aj's mindset is completely different than yours. You can't apply your reasoning to the actions of a 6/7 year old. You have to think as an kid who was born in the apocalypse, not as an adult in a (sort of) normal word.
It has nothing to do with our modern laws. I'm making a point. Killing someone after they're no longer a threat is not justified. Period. No… more matter what world you live in. It's murder, or execution, but it's not justified like if he had been shot while waving the gun around threatening people. Marlon had surrendered and was no longer an immediate threat that warranted being killed. He may have been executed later, but in that moment AJ was completely wrong.
I haven't read other comments but it's just like saying "I got to go fishing" or "I got to go hunting". It's basically just a hobby. Fish can't feel pain either.
I know this has already been said 896 times already both in this thread and in other threads but imma say it too (again)
Theres no fuckin way that what AJ did was justified,he didnt shoot Marlon during the "fight" with the screaming and shit he shot him wayyyy after that when he already dropped his gun,started crying like a bitch for like 20 minutes and determinantly tenn forgives him too,and everything so i dont why he thought "oh shit i better look for my gun and shoot him now or hes gonna kill everyone while unarmed and outnumbered"
I know this has already been said 896 times already both in this thread and in other threads but imma say it too (again)
Theres no fuckin w… moreay that what AJ did was justified,he didnt shoot Marlon during the "fight" with the screaming and shit he shot him wayyyy after that when he already dropped his gun,started crying like a bitch for like 20 minutes and determinantly tenn forgives him too,and everything so i dont why he thought "oh shit i better look for my gun and shoot him now or hes gonna kill everyone while unarmed and outnumbered"
how many "bad guys" has aj been around for him to think that?,as many said already "hes been mostly alone with clem" so where did he get that idea? i dont think clem said,hey when u see a bad guy (whatever that means) fuckin kill him.
Kill bad guys Marlon=bad guy Pretty simple.
how many "bad guys" has aj been around for him to think that?,as many said already "hes … morebeen mostly alone with clem" so where did he get that idea? i dont think clem said,hey when u see a bad guy (whatever that means) fuckin kill him.
It just doesnt make sense for him to do that no matter what your choices are
As far as i know (i could b wrong tho ) Clem is not stupid so its not really possible that she taught him its that simple
See a "bad guy",kill him,so he didnt do it because of this
Instinct,not really even to a 4,5,6 whatever boy its quite obvious he wasnt a threat anymore
Basically people that hate him have a point,and the explanation for why he did it only makes sense if he shot him during the fight but he didnt,even if it becomes magically justified over night,what he did was still wrong,and ep 2's first dialogue choices should b "WTF,AJ?" "disarm aj" "kick ajs ass"
The kid was born into death and destruction so perhaps he would see the world in a different shade than folks born preapocalypse. After Clemmy killed Eli when it wasn't necessary I don't think she really has a right to put down a practical toddler for killing a boy that was lethal just minutes prior. Maybe AJ thought he'd be dangerous still. Killed Brody and pointed a gun at Clementine. Boy is only about 7 tops and born into the bullshit and daily killing of monsters and people from his first days. This is understandable.
The kid was born into death and destruction so perhaps he would see the world in a different shade than folks born preapocalypse. After Clem… moremy killed Eli when it wasn't necessary I don't think she really has a right to put down a practical toddler for killing a boy that was lethal just minutes prior. Maybe AJ thought he'd be dangerous still. Killed Brody and pointed a gun at Clementine. Boy is only about 7 tops and born into the bullshit and daily killing of monsters and people from his first days. This is understandable.
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you are over reaching HES A KID RASIED AFTER THE OUTBREAK HE DOESNT HAVE THAT SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH TO.A PERSON WHO LIVED BEFORE THE OUTBREAK WILL FIND DISTURBING. got it？
That's right. But Aj's not here and he's not real. I'm talking and disagreeing with you. But like Dex-Starr said, i'm done. I wasn't trying to convince anyone but continuing a conversation with someone who won't listen to anything anyone is saying is redundant and pointless.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c85dd718-da9d-4c2d-a017-a67463dd3596
You're Damn right, this conversation could continue for hours and it wouldn't lead anywhere.
i chose to make him leave because there wasn't an option to shoot him myself. good for aj tho.
You have it completely wrong. AJ was happy that he caught a fish and helped get food for the group. He wasn't relishing the fact that he ended an animal's life. He wasn't tearing the fish's scales off and laughing at its suffering. He caught it and put it in the bucket and was happy. His wording was a bit off but he wasnt being a psycho, he was being an asset.
cue the Ric Flair voice WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
COSIGN.
TKO by @Hillbilly_Dave
For real, though!
lol
Okay as soon as you became disrespectful, you lost all credibility with me.
Also, I'm pretty sure I've already stated that AJ resembles a child soldier with how he lacks empathy for human life which is something that is exhibited in third world countries. So, no, you aren't stealing my counterargument, either.
Like I've previously stated, had Clementine never broke out of the basement, odds are he would've still shot Marlon simply because he didn't know what he had done with her.
Exactly! That's it for me on Disco Broccoli, I'm changing my avatar to Marlon to show my support for his misunderstood character. Telltale really shouldn't have killed him off this way.
There is the theory floating around that the entire ending sequence where Clem woke up is just a dream and none of it actually happened, Clem's worrying about people not being what they seem and also worrying about AJ's development manifesting in a nightmare and that episode 2 will start with Clem waking up from the nightmare and having to deal with the emotions.
Idk if I buy it, the supporting evidence is... flimsy. The best piece of supporting evidence is how Marlon goes from pretty well put together and nice to a complete asshole without any transition, it's just 0 to 60 in an instant. Clem goes to sleep and he's clearly stressing but still cool, then she wakes up and he's raging violent douchebag mcgee.
Also explains how AJ managed to move from the back of the group, behind Clem, to pick up the gun and move over by Rosie and no one saw it. It's like he teleported, like in a dream.
She's Dealt with.a lot of shit but her psyche isn't that.... professional. And how would one explain her "Winning"
i still saw him as a threat and wished i had the option to kill him myself. as soon as i picked "make him leave" option i immediately regretted it because i thought he was gonna go straight to the raiders and sell us out. i was so relieved when aj shot him. i'm kinda surprised aj shoots him no matter what tho. i was teaching aj to be hella hard through the whole episodes so i thought that was the reason, but i guess it's a story thing.
every other option was bad too imo. "forgive and move on" and "lock him in the basement" both seemed like he'd escape or try to turn everyone at the school against me for revenge. he had to die tbh. for safety reasons. i should've been more open to silence being a valid option. ;(
Well technically, he'd probably be charged for second-degree murder. Marlon's death didn't seem to be willfully premeditated by AJ.
Confidence. She's got confidence in spades.
He says it to Clem after their return from the train station supply run with Violet & Louis @ dinner the 2nd night.
Why exactly do you feel "that kid had to go"?
You sure you want to ask? This is the same person who said they wanted to kill Brody because she yelled at her.
he was a violent and impulsive coward which made him very dangerous.
I've seen that thread and am one of the people that's open to that possibility. It would make for some out-of-the-box storytelling that Telltale hasn't tried before but the show has.
I'll also like to toss in that although we don't know Kirkman's involvement in TWDG, Gimple DOES have some sway.
"One of Gimple’s responsibilities in his new role is to expand the universe of The Walking Dead. He told The Hollywood Reporter earlier this year: “We’re going to be doing traditional stuff, non-traditional stuff, stuff people don’t expect...Gaming and other platforms fall under Gimple’s umbrella as well as television."
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This would be an escape from their shock value deaths that have been received with poor reception when used in the past w/ John Fairbanks & Mariana. Moreover, it would show they can pull off some Transcendence-esque Hollywood type storytelling for a change. I mentioned in that thread since this game is suppose to be using "Lord of the Flies" as a theme, that Marlon's head shot cold be symbolic for when Simon talked to the impaled Pig's head on the stick during a hallucination.
its the zombie apocalypse dont judge me ;(
That depends. I'm of the opinion that he had already decided he wanted to kill Marlon initially after discovering Clem was missing. Had she not emerged from the basement, I'm positive he would've continued to shoot Marlon whether he revealed his dealings with the raiders or not. AJ's previous act of elbowing him in the groin could also be spun as a mild form of animosity toward him if it's properly argued before the jurors.
Marlon was someone that saved this kid from a car crash surrounded by walkers and he repaid this kindness by being a menace from day 1 & even after Clem recovered. He didn't tell her they didn't like him on the 1st night of dinner simply because there was no reason. He had already made himself come off as an unruly nuisance prior to Clem awakening. I wouldn't be surprised if others like Ruby were trying to figure out how she made it this long with him around, behaving like he does.
Personally I find it absurd that you're demonizing AJ for killing a guy who gave away two members of his group away to raiders, lied about it to the rest of the group (including the younger brother of the girls he betrayed), killed the one person who knew the secret and tried to come clean about it and do the right thing, and then tried framing and murdering a girl over something she didn't do.
"Misunderstood" is a gross understatement and I'm frankly appalled that you would want to "show your support" for such a character. Marlon was a coward and a traitor and what he did is one of the worst offenses we have ever seen from a character in this series.
If the details we've learned about the school can be trusted, then all of the students have been living without any guidance, protection, or direction from adults since the beginning of the outbreak. All of the staff abandoned them to fend for themselves.
This would suggest that Marlon would've been around the same age Clementine had been when we found her as Lee, attempting to lead his friends, and classmates against starvation, undead, and eventually raiders. Depending on dialogue choices, it's learned that 30 or so students have died since this began.
Does this excuse Marlon's decisions, or murdering Brody even accidentally? No. No more so than being born in the outbreak excuses AJ for killing Marlon once he'd been talked down. It's unfortunate, if for no other reason than it eliminates the possibility of interrogating the only surviving person who could provide some answers regarding these raiders. Only he and Brody could've given the group some idea of where they might be, what kind of numbers they might have, and what sort of weapons they might be facing.
Would it have been exact information even if he told us the truth? No, but even knowing if it were a large party all with guns would be really useful. Should Marlon have ultimately died anyway? Quite possibly, but what was to be done with him ought to have been a group decision. I think that would've made an interesting opening to Ep2, speaking to them to sway votes to what the player favors.
Neither Marlon nor AJ are characters without a sympathetic background. It's hard to imagine after so many games with so many people willing to die ( and in fact dying ) for Clementine, an alternate life of abandonment, the stress and toll of life or death decisions on a child some of which resulted in death, and the fear they all have to live with beyond their Lost Boys attitude we stumble into as Clementine.
It's not denial, I just think calling Aj a psychopath is to cheap a way to diagnose what he has dude. And maybe you should learn the definition of a psychopath, if you did you wouldn't be suggesting that Aj a little boy at his age, is a psychopath. You can't just chalk it up to oh he's just sick in the head, no there are very good reasons for why Aj is the way he is. And your acting like actual child psychologists, from our world would so easily be able to diagnose Aj you're wrong. A real child psychologist would need to analyze every detail of behavior, his environment, and other factors . After you've done that can you really still call Aj a psychopath?
Interrogating Marlon would have done very little to help us. For all intents and purposes we are already going to assume they are a sizeable group that is armed, him confirming that would change nothing. And there's no telling that Marlon would have even known the exact details. He may have only dealt with a fraction of their group, but like I said it wouldn't matter anyways because for all intents and purposes Clem is already going to assume there is a group of armed adults that we really don't want to tangle with.
I also don't think voting would be the greatest idea. This group has been sheltered more than Clem has and they're already biased because Marlon was their friend. Clem is the best judge here because she is unbiased and has survival in mind after so many years surviving on the road. Keeping Marlon alive, whether exiling him or keeping him around or as a prisoner, is really not a realistic solution and I don't trust the boarding school kids to see that.
Both AJ and Marlon have sympathetic backgrounds, I'm not arguing that. But while AJ's actions were understandable and somewhat impulsive, Martin's actions were mostly calculated and he knew exactly what he was doing. Plus AJ is a very young child while Marlon is practically an adult. Marlon deserves little to no sympathy or support for his actions.
To be honest, I don't really disagree with your overall point, but where psychopaths aren't able to feel empathy, AJ clearly feels love and empathy for Clementine, and when he apologises to Ruby (rather than with Marlon), he seems genuinely happy to have been forgiven.
If he were genuinely a psychopath, he wouldn't have shown those feelings, unless we're going down the route of him being a sociopath, and those feelings were just an act, but I don't think a 6 year old is smart enough for that.
Of course he is wrong. But I think you forgot that Aj is 6/7 and you're probably alot older. Aj's mindset is completely different than yours. You can't apply your reasoning to the actions of a 6/7 year old. You have to think as an kid who was born in the apocalypse, not as an adult in a (sort of) normal word.
I haven't read other comments but it's just like saying "I got to go fishing" or "I got to go hunting". It's basically just a hobby. Fish can't feel pain either.
I'll go watch the ep again. I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
I know this has already been said 896 times already both in this thread and in other threads but imma say it too (again)
Theres no fuckin way that what AJ did was justified,he didnt shoot Marlon during the "fight" with the screaming and shit he shot him wayyyy after that when he already dropped his gun,started crying like a bitch for like 20 minutes and determinantly tenn forgives him too,and everything so i dont why he thought "oh shit i better look for my gun and shoot him now or hes gonna kill everyone while unarmed and outnumbered"
Kill bad guys
Marlon=bad guy
Pretty simple.
how many "bad guys" has aj been around for him to think that?,as many said already "hes been mostly alone with clem" so where did he get that idea? i dont think clem said,hey when u see a bad guy (whatever that means) fuckin kill him.
Guess we need to find out just what we have taught him between ANF and now.
he was too young to be taught anything
It just doesnt make sense for him to do that no matter what your choices are
) Clem is not stupid so its not really possible that she taught him its that simple
As far as i know (i could b wrong tho
See a "bad guy",kill him,so he didnt do it because of this
Instinct,not really even to a 4,5,6 whatever boy its quite obvious he wasnt a threat anymore
Basically people that hate him have a point,and the explanation for why he did it only makes sense if he shot him during the fight but he didnt,even if it becomes magically justified over night,what he did was still wrong,and ep 2's first dialogue choices should b "WTF,AJ?" "disarm aj" "kick ajs ass"
The kid was born into death and destruction so perhaps he would see the world in a different shade than folks born preapocalypse. After Clemmy killed Eli when it wasn't necessary I don't think she really has a right to put down a practical toddler for killing a boy that was lethal just minutes prior. Maybe AJ thought he'd be dangerous still. Killed Brody and pointed a gun at Clementine. Boy is only about 7 tops and born into the bullshit and daily killing of monsters and people from his first days. This is understandable.
Eli being the guy in Prescott that sold her the bad bullets? That was an accident and we all know it.