A J is a disturbed little boy and there's a hint well before he does the thing

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  • No I don't think he does. Aj shouldn't have shot him because he deserved worse than what he got. And who's to say marlon who said he'd do it again wouldn't do it again? He just got finished killing someone then tried to put the blame on someone else then he wanted to leave. Marlon was a potential threat by living that's what I think.

    Demonarke posted: »

    Obviously it wouldn't happen if he is not the leader anymore. Forgive but never forget obviously you need to know how the real world w

  • Ok well I give up, if you think like that then I'm sorry for you. If you think he deserved death, and even worse than death, then I'm sorry for being rude but you are an idiot.

    Scythenger posted: »

    No I don't think he does. Aj shouldn't have shot him because he deserved worse than what he got. And who's to say marlon who said he'd do it

  • Oh my god guys stop with the arguing.

    Demonarke posted: »

    Ok well I give up, if you think like that then I'm sorry for you. If you think he deserved death, and even worse than death, then I'm sorry for being rude but you are an idiot.

  • edited August 2018

    I'm actually done about talking about marlon. This isn't going to go anywhere. I don't think marlon deserved a second chance. And I think he got off easy when aj killed him. That's the only reason why I wish aj didn't shoot him. You can sympathize with marlon and think he deserved a second chance but I don't.

    We don't know the details of the meeting with the raiders but it's reasonable to believe that Marlon, Brody, and the twins ran into a larger

  • Yeah you are right, that was childish of me, just this way of thinking is medieval and needs to stop.

    NexusFire posted: »

    Oh my god guys stop with the arguing.

  • I wasn't trying to argue. Especially not with marlon sympathizers and apologists. But it's cool. I'm done with this back and forth.

    NexusFire posted: »

    Oh my god guys stop with the arguing.

  • LaFlameSaurusLaFlameSaurus Banned
    edited August 2018

    Damn,that was some deep philosophical type shit bein exchanged back there :D
    yah Marlon is (well was :D now i guess) bad (if u start gettin into how bad,thats wayy too complicated for just a thread about a fuckin game)
    its still hard not to feel bad for the guy tho,if u know hes just a kid and did that shit because he was a pussy mullet head ass boy and scared
    (why do you think clem made that face when he was akin to leave,before u even choose what shes gonna say?)
    yyyy
    maybe its just because of the amazing performance of his voice actor
    naw,i have no idea what they should have done with him,maybe not execute him tho
    AJ is still wrong for shootin an unarmed man

  • I know this isn't war but child soldiers are known for their lack of empathy so why is AJ any different?

  • Then you fucking fire them away at the wall if anything..That only proves she's not competent enough to be handling firearms which is true given her age anyway. I guarantee you she would not have done that to herself even if she believed them all to be blanks because if wrong then dead. AJ who is not as mature or smart at least knew to fire at someone who posed a threat to the group, because he brought death to Brody even if by "accident" like Clem did to Eli. Which technically Clem deserves death or inprisonment since season 3 episode 1. Marlin may have surrendered his gun though he would possibly be an unstable mess in the near future versus a slightly assholish guy who might of made a mistake on bullets who got killed over a PMS teen being wreck less. Not like the guy could test all the bullets at his factory before sale. So really Clem was the unreasonable person in that situation and I wished that we as Javier would of had the option to be the voice of adult reason and talk sense into her and made the guy be determinate. That scene never sat right with me. Very awkward and ridiculous.

    My whole point is besides New Frontier's hundred issues is this.. AJ is not trying to be a psycho because he is not old enough to know better and be taught better because unlike other folks like Clem he never had the chance to live with better. All he knows is killing since it's all around him since he started crawling. Clem knew better and didn't do better yet her mistakes are never called out because what?? "Oh yeah bad writing , or well the guy looked like a Dick or Clementine could of got killed" etc.. You see how she can get more vicious and have plenty of excuses but soon as it's someone else the tune of the same song changes.

    How does one accidentally pull a trigger more than one time until it finally goes off? Why even pull the trigger at all unless you intend to

  • LaFlameSaurusLaFlameSaurus Banned
    edited August 2018

    You see how she can get more vicious and have plenty of excuses but soon as it's someone else the tune of the same song changes.

    Well not really
    Clem made a mistake by being a fuckin idiot and not thinkin for a second that maybe its not a good idea to pull the trigger of a loaded gun,even if its loaded with piss or spit,it was still an accident
    Marlon killed brody,it was an accident too
    AJ killed an unarmed kid because YOLO
    The person AJ is not more wrong since hes a kid
    His actions are more wrong if that makes sense!?
    Had clem shot an unarmed crying mullet pussy kid on purpose,idk but i dont really think people would b defendin her,just sayin

  • People wants people they love to be right, even if they're wrong.

    You see how she can get more vicious and have plenty of excuses but soon as it's someone else the tune of the same song changes. Wel

  • if you compare how Clem was raised by Lee and how AJ was raised by clem,under very similiar circumstances ,then you just know this boy ain't right...

  • LaFlameSaurusLaFlameSaurus Banned
    edited August 2018

    People wants people they love to be right, even if they're wrong.

    how bout
    no
    I dont hate AJ,hes wrong,him shootin that guy was not an accident,even if hes a kid,i dont care im just judgin people by their actions
    I dont love Marlon :D ,he was less wrong in killin brody than aj in killin him,because it was an accident u could clearly see he regretted doin that shit
    everyone loves clem,a lot of people includin me hated ANF clem too
    she was definitely not right,still an accident
    IM JUST STATIN FACTS!
    DAS FAX AND U KNO IT!

  • But you cant compare their circumstances, for the majority of clems life she's been around other people. You can't say the same for Aj who has been with clem for most of his life.

    Clemmy1 posted: »

    if you compare how Clem was raised by Lee and how AJ was raised by clem,under very similiar circumstances ,then you just know this boy ain't right...

  • LaFlameSaurusLaFlameSaurus Banned
    edited August 2018

    Placeholder comment since it doesnt seem like u can delete shit:
    I clicked reply,why is this a new fuckin comment and not a reply?

  • Guys it's just telltale wanting to do drama, we'll see if it's justified in the later episodes, I wouldn't hold my breath though.

  • LaFlameSaurusLaFlameSaurus Banned
    edited August 2018

    has been with clem for most of his life.

    thats exactly why he shouldnt think "bad guy-kill him" how many "bad guys" has he been round to learn to adopt that protocol,he clearly knows the difference between people and "monsters"
    who tought him to kill people u think are bad even if they are not trynna kill u/are crying like lil bitches?
    Clem might be an idiot at times but not to the point of teachin him that
    FAX

    But you cant compare their circumstances, for the majority of clems life she's been around other people. You can't say the same for Aj who has been with clem for most of his life.

  • edited August 2018

    Exactly what I'm saying this whole time dude right on! Some saying give 25yrs to life for 6 year old AJ for trying to protect his "mom" and other members. It's not being hypocritical in the least because New Frontier was shitty ( old news) and Clem shot a guy who did nothing but sit in his chair talking calmly but since Clem did it it's okay. Naw that's called sweeping under the rug. Atleast AJ avenged Brody in a way. Clem protected no one and avenged no one and only proved two things that not all the bullets was bad after all and that she didn't need a gun more so than Conrad. She never even shows remorse either after acting shocked that she took an unarmed guys life like nothing. Then just wanted to cover her own ass by getting Javi (us) to lie for her which you can believe most did. ANF Clementine was vicious, but she was older and suppose to know a bit better apparently and was worse than AJ back then.

    You know what really bothers me about this thread, its the fact that clementine pretty much did the exact same thing in Anf. When she killed

  • In any case, this is YOUR Clementine, and you teach AJ what YOU want to teach him, everyone has different opinions, don't think your decisions will matter all that much except maybe in episode 4 where Telltale might do something similar than in batman ennemy within. Teach AJ to be merciful or teach him to be vengeful, it's your choice. Arguing kinda seems useless at this point nobody is gonna change their mind.

    In any case, for now AJ seems like a little brat to me, sure he will survive, but at the cost of other people's lives ? I won't allow that.

    Also I'm not all that attached to AJ yet, especially after that ending so I really hope he will be Clementine's legacy just like Clementine was to Lee. I want him to become a good person, trying to survive but never losing his humanity.
    But it's just a game so we shouldn't take this so seriously xD

  • LaFlameSaurusLaFlameSaurus Banned
    edited August 2018

    well had AJ shot that guy by accident i would sort of defend him too,even if its still wrong
    Can i defend AJ's actions now even if i try?,well no
    u could had he shot marlon durin the argument,he didnt
    Marlon was a piece of shit,he can b defended,killin brody was an accident,givin the twind was cuz he was scared
    ANF clem was a trash,if u want to u can defend her however because it was an accident
    had god himself killed marlon like that i would think hes a piece of shit and not justified at all

    Ladariel posted: »

    Exactly what I'm saying this whole time dude right on! Some saying give 25yrs to life for 6 year old AJ for trying to protect his "mom" an

  • Like i've posted before, you can't rationalize what Aj did because it was done out of anger for threatening Clementine, not because he was a threat at that time. And in anger you do stupid stuff that's a fact.

    has been with clem for most of his life. thats exactly why he shouldnt think "bad guy-kill him" how many "bad guys" has he been roun

  • Well of course people are hypocrites, like I said, people want people they love to be right.

    Ladariel posted: »

    Exactly what I'm saying this whole time dude right on! Some saying give 25yrs to life for 6 year old AJ for trying to protect his "mom" an

    • What clem did in ANF was wrong like everything else with that game,
    • Marlon can b defended,he wasnt 100% evil trash
    • AJ is wrong,not a psycho,doesnt deserve to die just next ep tell him to not shoot people again
      FACTS!
      THREAD CLOSED
  • Man... This thread is going for too long.

  • AJ is what 5 to 6 yrs old? There's your defense there. Unlike god himself, bigger kids and grown men Lee's/Javier's age the boy apparently doesn't know better. With the supposed improved writing this season it is now evident that they are trying to depict a kid that doesn't know when it's the right and wrong time to use lethal force on a person. But at least with Marlin's homicide of Brody and then not owning up to it and instead lying ? about it by trying to frame Clem I would think folks should be applauding AJ instead of saying he needs solitary confinement or something.

    well had AJ shot that guy by accident i would sort of defend him too,even if its still wrong Can i defend AJ's actions now even if i try?,w

  • Yes this is true too. Unfortunately.

    Demonarke posted: »

    Well of course people are hypocrites, like I said, people want people they love to be right.

  • Even if hes negative 100
    -100 years old
    hes still wrong
    he doesnt know
    he needs to b tought that
    his actions are wrong
    cant defend that shit
    clem needs to teach him
    no confinement
    no killing
    :D

    Ladariel posted: »

    AJ is what 5 to 6 yrs old? There's your defense there. Unlike god himself, bigger kids and grown men Lee's/Javier's age the boy apparently d

  • damn right
    229 comments
    all sayin the same shit over and over runnin in circles
    hes wrong
    hes not
    repeat x90 times
    im probably gonna continue tho :D

    NexusFire posted: »

    Man... This thread is going for too long.

  • At least thanks to these threads time will pass a little bit faster.

    damn right 229 comments all sayin the same shit over and over runnin in circles hes wrong hes not repeat x90 times im probably gonna continue tho

  • my head now hurts and im probably gonna die of forum overdose,tho,been spendin my life here since i joined a few days ago

    NexusFire posted: »

    At least thanks to these threads time will pass a little bit faster.

  • Me too :D

    my head now hurts and im probably gonna die of forum overdose,tho,been spendin my life here since i joined a few days ago

  • edited August 2018

    Sure he does need to be taught when it's okay to shoot someone dangerous and not okay.. I've already stated that. But to severely punish him for his ignorance and intentions of protecting his loved one like Clementine like the thread here seems to advocate is wrong and if we are going to go down that path then you'll need to first begin with Clem's punishment from last season that you yourself want to invalidate because it was poorly written which is irrelevant. His actions are wrong though his heart was right..he's also not able to understand until instructed. Which is where the age factor comes in. You cannot punish a toddler and a grown man the same ways in spite of both being wrong in a that same situation. That's the overall point made here. Lee shoots a boy like that in spite of giving up. Then yes the man is wrong and old enough to warrant punishment. A boy not even a quarter of Lee's age does not know the difference. So accusing him of psycho hood and saying he ought to be put down like a dysfunctional puppy ? makes no sense. Both are wrong sure that's obvious like saying ANF was shitty is obvious, but the way you handle them both will be much different.

    Even if hes negative 100 -100 years old hes still wrong he doesnt know he needs to b tought that his actions are wrong cant defend that shit clem needs to teach him no confinement no killing

  • edited August 2018

    Omg, I totally forgot this. Who was Eli and how did it happen exactly?
    Oh, never mind. Got my answer in the other comments.

    You know what really bothers me about this thread, its the fact that clementine pretty much did the exact same thing in Anf. When she killed

  • Can we all agree that AJ is a little shit and move on ? xD

  • The interesting thing about AJ from a storytelling perspective is that he's a kid who was born in the apocalypse, where violence and killing is practically a necessity of life. Because of that, AJ hasn't fully gotten the grasp of when it's wrong to kill. I'm pretty sure when episode 2 rolls around, one of the big scenes, in the beginning, will be AJ saying things like "Marlon was a bad man," and as a player, you get to decide whether AJ should be justified or not.

    I feel this Season's ultimate theme is how to teach the future generation, which is why it's no coincidence most of the characters are kids and a school plays a large setting.

  • LaFlameSaurusLaFlameSaurus Banned
    edited August 2018

    bruh,i didnt even say he should b punished i just said sum ppl were acvtin like his ass wasnt wrong and shit,i didnt say they should kill him

    Ladariel posted: »

    Sure he does need to be taught when it's okay to shoot someone dangerous and not okay.. I've already stated that. But to severely punish him

  • I know YOU didn't but I said this THREAD was either saying that directly or suggesting he was a psycho for what he did and needed to be killed for killing Marlin which ain't really fair for AJ. Not many looking at this from his perspective only from their own or from Marlon perspective after first raging out then giving up.

    I mainly only disagreed with you about how events in New Frontier should be nullified from the series because it sucked. Still counts even if very badly.

    bruh,i didnt even say he should b punished i just said sum ppl were acvtin like his ass wasnt wrong and shit,i didnt say they should kill him

  • Can't we all just agree the world would be a slightly better place if AJ got thrown into a pit of walkers? Geez......

  • edited August 2018

    Man I can't believe we're debating if AJ is a psychopath now when the Boi has literally been raised as a killing machine, a soldier basically. He plays with his gun like it's a toy ffs and i'm willing to bet my ass Clem didn't have much time to talk about values with AJ while she was worried about providing food and shelter.

    I'm sure there were lots of lessons about accuracy and reload speed of a gun, but what about the "how do we differentiate between hostile teen and surrendered teen" lesson. "What do we do about the teen that previously threatened to give us to raiders to be killed or raped or worse but is neutralised now" lesson. "Do we kill him like a dog? Why? Why not?"

    What too specific? Lol, Clem is a kid raising a kid in the apocalypse. I would've been surised if there were NO problems, honestly.

  • i didnt say they should b nullified because is sucked,i said it was supposed t b an accident even if u can ask "why the fuck was that stupid ass bitch aiming a loaded gun at his fuckin head,even if loaded with piss?" telltale obviously didnt think about that,doesnt make her less wrong for being an idiot,it was still an accident tho

    Ladariel posted: »

    I know YOU didn't but I said this THREAD was either saying that directly or suggesting he was a psycho for what he did and needed to be kill

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