Was Carver the father of Jane? Atleast in a early versio of the story (Theory about Carver and Jane)

edited August 2018 in The Walking Dead

EDIT: I don't believe they are related in the story we got. Just that the idea got scraped and that it was only present in a early version of the story.

Okay so both Carver and Jane seem to have the same mindset on how to survive the apocalypse. We need to murder the weak people in order to save other people. For example: Carver killed Reggie because he is weak and Jane wanted to leave Sarah behind cause she only slowed the group down. (In Janes mind) Jane has stayed at Howes for some time , so I think its possible Carver influenced her with his mindset. But Jane seems to be pretty capable to be influenced by someone. So maybe they are actually related. Maybe Carver is the father of Jane. They both share the same eye color and have the same hair color. (Carvers hair is a bit greyer obviously)

And maybe the most important argument to support the theory that they are related is that they both are manipulative. Jane tricked a broken man to prove the point he was dangerous. Carver wanted to prove to Clementine that she should be on his side, on the strong side. Not on the weak side. Carver wanted to manipulate Clem into getting her by his side. Like a follower.

Their personality traits and looks seem to be both pretty similair.

So do I think Jane and Carver related. No, but what I do think is that this concept of the story was an early build of the final result. But then they thought the idea was not good enough so they added the loner thing to Jane and not made her actual related to Carver anymore.

I love hearing your opinions on this theory guys :)

Comments

  • No and honestly, from a cohesive arc-welding standpoint, it baffles me that they couldn't have made a connection there

  • edited August 2018

    What do you mean with they? And care to explain yourself why they could not be related in a early stage of the story.

    DabigRG posted: »

    No and honestly, from a cohesive arc-welding standpoint, it baffles me that they couldn't have made a connection there

  • Jane was a character made last minute though lol

  • The writers.
    Probably because Jane was possibly a fairly late addition to the story, given that the episode she debuted in was written solely by Pierre Shorette(who to be fair, was around for one of the previous episodes, as I've learned), Amid the Ruins aka "The Jane Episode" was written by two people who had little to no history with Telltale(albeit, with at least some direction for Sean Ainsworth(?) and other producers/executives), and because with Nick Breckon finally returning in No Going Back alongside Mr. Shorette(who wrote at least the big death match at the end, apparently), you can kinda tell he was doing what he could to salvage what must've been in his original plan for the finale(ex. Luke and to an extent Bonnie getting rerailed with more focus and/or backstory, a lifethreatening trudge through the snow, Wellington) while incorporating newcomers Jane and Arvo in questionable/improvise-y major ways.

    If they did consider having an explicit relation between her and Carver, it ended up on the cutting room floor, if it even got that far.

    What do you mean with they? And care to explain yourself why they could not be related in a early stage of the story.

  • No, I don't think there ever was a plan for Jane until episode 3. Carver and Jane have an entirely different philosophy. They only seem to have one similar aspect. Jane believes in going it alone and leaving any dead weight behind no matter how close they are to you. Carver believes in herding out the weak, to secure a future for stronger survivors. But Carver is more about people and wanting to make a better future and preparation for the next generation, whereas Jane is a l9ner detached from any weak links to her survival

  • Yup, thats what I think. That this idea got scraped from the story.

    DabigRG posted: »

    The writers. Probably because Jane was possibly a fairly late addition to the story, given that the episode she debuted in was written sole

  • edited August 2018

    I realise that they both have different views on the
    world but thats why I also said the idea of Jane being linked to Carver was most likely scraped from the story. But they still are both manipulative, both want the weak people out of the way because it slows us down. (Only Jane wants to do that for her own) They both have the same eye color and both have kinda the same hair color. Carver is obviously greyer cause he is older.

    I think the idea of Carver being linked to Jane got scraped and thats why they added the whole loner thing, but they kept the other traits that can be linked with Carver. And just because she was only introduced in episode 3, doesn't mean Telltale couldn't make her related to Carver :) (in a early version of the story)

    Clemenem posted: »

    No, I don't think there ever was a plan for Jane until episode 3. Carver and Jane have an entirely different philosophy. They only seem to h

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