What do you think Carver's rules and exceptions would be?
CapnJay
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So I was thinking about doing some writing an AU where Clementine became Carver's second in command. Partly based on this.
And it got me thinking about the possibility of Clarah in such a universe. And whether Carver would discourage it or be like "At least she's finally good for something" and then it just got me thinking about Carver's rules in general.
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A Carver sympathizer. YIKES!
Don't get me wrong I enjoyed watching his face become applesauce but it's more fun to write crazy AUs. Unless you meant the artist.
The artist was a strange dude. Lol
CRIIIINGE!
Honestly, Carver's structure for Howe's overall made little sense.
Someone's seen that one Rule 34 pic.
All caver will do is teach an how to kill kill kill and beat down someone if he had aj and was alive
What’s rule 34? Am I gonna regret asking?
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Oh lordie
So innocent. xD
I think Carver sees himself as a force of good; he's taking the weaker people-- those who by their very nature are built to depend upon the strong in order to survive-- under his wing. However, I think he also has a pragmatic view on weakness as a whole; there's varying degrees of it, and only the most egregious examples of it need to be dealt with.
There's standard weakness, people that, while they aren't fit to lead or make tough choices, are still able to follow orders, adhere to a routine and accomplish tasks given to them. This is the baseline that Carver expects a majority of people to fall under, until it is proven otherwise.
And then there's a level of weakness below that; the type of people that endanger everyone above them due to an inability to follow orders or to otherwise carry out assigned tasks. Basically, if the type of people listed above do not perform up to standard, they fall into this category. In Carver's mind, these people are a threat that must be eliminated to ensure the survival and safety of everyone else. It's like a more principled form of social darwinism, where there's a bit more of a grey area as far as what constitutes 'fit'.
Take him killing Reggie, but allowing Sarah to live. I believe in Reggie's case, he sees someone that falls within the malignant form of weakness as described above; someone who he has given multiple chances to prove his worth, but has proven incapable of fully following orders. Everyone jokes about him killing Reggie over berries, but if you ask me, the berries are just the final straw. Carver feels he has already shown enough compassion/mercy/forgiveness to Reggie, and he was unable to utilize his second chance to prove himself, and as a result, he was a detriment that needed to be cut loose. He already had clear misgivings prior to the berry incident (he even says as much himself when you talk to him in his office), and combine that with the fact that Reggie helped aid in the escape of the cabin group, along with what he believes to be his unborn child. For a man like Carver, he probably thinks that letting Reggie live at all after that was more than enough mercy.
For Sarah, he sees a young child that has been coddled and conditioned by her father. Someone who may not be inherently weak, but conditioned to be as a result of her upbringing. Or more simply put, I think Carver believes there is still a chance to 'reform' Sarah, that she's at an age where she is still malleable, able to be molded into someone else through his influence, unlike Reggie. Granted, I believe if Sarah eventually crossed the same threshold that Reggie crossed, Carver would have had no qualms with getting rid of Sarah. But she wasn't quite at that point just yet.
Lots of people give episode 3 Carver shit for being more like a generic bad guy as compared to the more subdued, mysterious nature of his episode 2 appearance. But I honestly think there's still depth to Carver's ideologies as a whole, even in episode 3. At surface level he just appears as a run of the mill bloodthirsty maniac, but I think below that initial impression lies something a bit more complex and driven. I don't see him as a mustache-twirling villain in episode 3, I see him as a disillusioned man trying to bring back society, albeit with rather brutal, unforgiving principles that he believes are necessary to ensure survival.
Eh, on principal. At the very least, the one I'm referring to is kinda funny, if still a bit graphic and disturbing.
When I saw the teaser for episode 3 I assumed that carver and clem would become mutual based on this pic and their chemistry in the lodge at the start of ep 2
I suppose that's a rather in-depth way of looking at him.
The main problems with Carver as far as I'm concerned is that he just generally came off as just an controlling troglodyte and the execution of the plot utterly fails to uphold the supposedly complicated motivations & history he has with the Cabin Group, leaving behind an faux sophisticated asshole that the narrative definitely wants you to take very seriously, but just can't get past the fact that he's rather stock and for the most part flat up close.
Not to insult the impressions and HYPE from back then, but part of me kinda laughs a bit when I think about people viewing Clementine and Carver as having this deep connection.
I thought so to.
Someone like him isn't easy to predict/understand, so wondering what his exceptions would be is hard. We already know he doesn't think people should drink, which is weird considering he doesn't have any issue with killing/beating people, like, it's ok to ruin lives but god forbid people drink alcohol. Also, I can't imagine what he would've done if people were getting it ON in the holding area
Carver was apparently suppose to have this fundamentalist, fatherly vibe to him, particularly when he was Kenny, so it might've come from that.
Troy and Jane lucky they never found out.
Don't......just don't do it. It changed the way I saw characters in ways I wish I hadn't. The thing is, I didn't even go looking for it, it came to me
SAVE YOURSELF!!!!
If you thought AJ was horrible for killing Marlon under Clem's misguidance, you'd hate him under Carver's
The fact you know it exists speaks many volumes
Besides the religious aspects alot of Mormonism is useful for the apocalypse. No drugs, no alcohol, no substances you can get addicted to or that will weaken your body. Your body is a temple type stuff. If you're drinking doesn't matter what job you're assigned your hand eye coordination is going to be poor and you won't be able to react to threats fast enough. Thus alcohol is detriment.
Photography class?
Maybe he was doing a research paper on the sexualization of video game characters, and needed to add pictures to it in order to get an A?
I mean, the guy blinded one of his laborers in one eye, broke another one's fingers, and killed another. I think he was worse for his people than alcohol/tobacco was
Yeah, same here.
Google can be really dodgy and really weird when loading up results.
Yeah, well, you know what they say...
Is it bad that that's the first time I ever saw Shel, Becca, Bonnie, and Jane?
Delete.
And Jane was the odd one out
In what sense...?
wow
