If you had her be as such, then sure. Mine is not and nothing in my game has ever reflected an interest in girls. There has nothing Clem has non-determinantly said or done that indicates bisexuality.
For your claim, yes there does. If you want to prove your argument, you need to present some rational basis or facts. Otherwise, Clem, being the playable character, is dependent on how the player plays as her, and that extends to her sexuality.
I'm not sure where I'm confusing you with this concept.
Sexuality has nothing to do with her showing this in game or not. You choose if she's interested in Violet or Louis, you don't choose if she's interested in girls or boys.
Again, you're treating a video game as if it's real life. Clem is not a real person, she's a character who's personality and sexuality is up to the player to decide.
Sexuality has nothing to do with her showing this in game or not. You choose if she's interested in Violet or Louis, you don't choose if she's interested in girls or boys.
You clearly don't understand the difference between romance options and sexuality. You can be bisexual irl and only ever date one sex, but that doesn't make you straight or gay. The same goes for video games.
For your claim, yes there does. If you want to prove your argument, you need to present some rational basis or facts. Otherwise, Clem, being… more the playable character, is dependent on how the player plays as her, and that extends to her sexuality.
I'm not sure where I'm confusing you with this concept.
I wonder how she actually thinks about it all. Obviously she won't have the same concept of sexuality as us since there is no society to base it off. She probably only knows that its okay to love anyone regardless of if they are male or female. She's never gone through the confusion or discovery of her sexuality, and I don't know if ANF and TFS have been representative of that either.
You clearly don't understand the difference between romance options and sexuality. You can be bisexual irl and only ever date one sex, but that doesn't make you straight or gay. The same goes for video games.
There's absolutely no reason it should be any different in video games.. and i'm well aware Clem is not a real person. Sexuality is still not a choice.
Again, you're treating a video game as if it's real life. Clem is not a real person, she's a character who's personality and sexuality is up to the player to decide.
There's absolutely no reason it should be any different in video games.. and i'm well aware Clem is not a real person. Sexuality is still not a choice.
Looking up it's synonyms, I'm afraid the split named guy is right--sexuality, or orientation, is indeed a general ability or even a preference rather than the conscious action or lack thereof on it.
I wonder how she actually thinks about it all. Obviously she won't have the same concept of sexuality as us since there is no society to bas… moree it off. She probably only knows that its okay to love anyone regardless of if they are male or female. She's never gone through the confusion or discovery of her sexuality, and I don't know if ANF and TFS have been representative of that either.
As I said: So far as we know, there is no statement from Telltale towards what determines her sexuality. My comment was about games in general. Fiction does not abide by any rules besides the ones the creator establishes. Without word to the opposite from Telltale, people can pick what they like for Clementine.
As I said: So far as we know, there is no statement from Telltale towards what determines her sexuality. My comment was about games in gener… moreal. Fiction does not abide by any rules besides the ones the creator establishes. Without word to the opposite from Telltale, people can pick what they like for Clementine.
Why? Why does a character's sexuality mean so much to you? Whether she be straight, bi, lesbian, asexual, or whatever, it doesn't improve or worsen her character as a whole.
I'm aware. I've also elected to imagine her sexuality as I like, similar to others, but I'll change my mind if the writers state something to contradict that.
It's not Clementine's sexuality that matters to me. It's the way people in here and real life act like you can just choose to be straight or gay that bothers me.
Why? Why does a character's sexuality mean so much to you? Whether she be straight, bi, lesbian, asexual, or whatever, it doesn't improve or worsen her character as a whole.
It's not Clementine's sexuality that matters to me. It's the way people in here and real life act like you can just choose to be straight or gay that bothers me.
I've already acknowledged in real life that sexuality is not a choice, but a video game, especially one where player choice is a central component in determining who and what a character is, is different. Unless an official confirms anything, Clem's sexuality is up to the player to decide because Clem is not a real person who is capable of coming to that realization on her own.
It's not Clementine's sexuality that matters to me. It's the way people in here and real life act like you can just choose to be straight or gay that bothers me.
As I said, yes there is. Especially for role playing games, there is an enormous difference, they are about empowering the player to project what they want in their character.
I've already acknowledged in real life that sexuality is not a choice, but a video game, especially one where player choice is a central com… moreponent in determining who and what a character is, is different. Unless an official confirms anything, Clem's sexuality is up to the player to decide because Clem is not a real person who is capable of coming to that realization on her own.
As I said, yes there is. Especially for role playing games, there is an enormous difference, they are about empowering the player to project what they want in their character.
We're going around in fucking circles here. Look, Nikolaj-11 and I are trying to say the same thing to you, and I'm not sure what you're not getting about the distinction between fake video game characters and real life.
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It doesn't matter. She's still bisexual, you can't change that.
Again, what has she said or done, not depending on player choices, in the game that reflects this? I'll wait.
There doesn't need to be a scene to show someone being a certain sexuality.
For your claim, yes there does. If you want to prove your argument, you need to present some rational basis or facts. Otherwise, Clem, being the playable character, is dependent on how the player plays as her, and that extends to her sexuality.
I'm not sure where I'm confusing you with this concept.
Sexuality has nothing to do with her showing this in game or not. You choose if she's interested in Violet or Louis, you don't choose if she's interested in girls or boys.
Again, you're treating a video game as if it's real life. Clem is not a real person, she's a character who's personality and sexuality is up to the player to decide.
You clearly don't understand the difference between romance options and sexuality. You can be bisexual irl and only ever date one sex, but that doesn't make you straight or gay. The same goes for video games.
I wonder how she actually thinks about it all. Obviously she won't have the same concept of sexuality as us since there is no society to base it off. She probably only knows that its okay to love anyone regardless of if they are male or female. She's never gone through the confusion or discovery of her sexuality, and I don't know if ANF and TFS have been representative of that either.
I don't think you understand the difference between a video game and real life.
There's absolutely no reason it should be any different in video games.. and i'm well aware Clem is not a real person. Sexuality is still not a choice.
There is not differences when it comes to this. You seem to be the one who have a problem understanding this.
Yes there is: to give the player freedom to create their own unique and distinct versions of Clem.
Yea, it's called romance options..
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I actually kinda wondered about that myself.
Looking up it's synonyms, I'm afraid the split named guy is right--sexuality, or orientation, is indeed a general ability or even a preference rather than the conscious action or lack thereof on it.
But until Clem were to make that choice, than it doesn't matter. Again, your Clem is defined by what choices you make, not the ones you don't.
But her sexuality is not a choice you make.
As I said: So far as we know, there is no statement from Telltale towards what determines her sexuality. My comment was about games in general. Fiction does not abide by any rules besides the ones the creator establishes. Without word to the opposite from Telltale, people can pick what they like for Clementine.
Yes it is.
You're getting really riled up over something that doesn't matter.
Nope. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but it does to me.
You still can't pick her sexuality. That's not how it works.
Who are you to decide what matters to him/her?
Mods please lock this thread already. There is no real discussion since Clem sexuality is A CHOICE.
That's not something you get to decide, Telltale, or I suppose Skybound now, are the ones in charge with what our choices mean.
Well, everyone in here is acting like they do, it's not just me.
Why? Why does a character's sexuality mean so much to you? Whether she be straight, bi, lesbian, asexual, or whatever, it doesn't improve or worsen her character as a whole.
I'm aware. I've also elected to imagine her sexuality as I like, similar to others, but I'll change my mind if the writers state something to contradict that.
It's not Clementine's sexuality that matters to me. It's the way people in here and real life act like you can just choose to be straight or gay that bothers me.
Where have people stated that what they want for their video game character is also how they see sexuality irl?
I've already acknowledged in real life that sexuality is not a choice, but a video game, especially one where player choice is a central component in determining who and what a character is, is different. Unless an official confirms anything, Clem's sexuality is up to the player to decide because Clem is not a real person who is capable of coming to that realization on her own.
Why would it not be? There really is no difference
As I said, yes there is. Especially for role playing games, there is an enormous difference, they are about empowering the player to project what they want in their character.
Sexuality is no more a choice in a video game than it is in real life.
There's absolutely no difference.
Except this is a choice based game. Its up for the player to decide
I already said he's technically right.
Now hush.
We're going around in fucking circles here. Look, Nikolaj-11 and I are trying to say the same thing to you, and I'm not sure what you're not getting about the distinction between fake video game characters and real life.
Again, you choose romances, not sexuality. It's not the same thing.
Yes there is. One is fantasy, the other isn't.
But is this real life?