Why is this so weird for some people though.. Clem is a character that already exists, you only control her actions, but you can't change who she is in her core. Being straight isn't some kind of "default" option either.
To be fair, Telltale has played up the "you determine (all) Clementine's traits" for a while. Her personality is determined through the actions you pick, people just assumed this means sexuality as well: "I only ever picked the dudes/girls, that must mean that's what she likes exclusively."
Why is this so weird for some people though.. Clem is a character that already exists, you only control her actions, but you can't change who she is in her core. Being straight isn't some kind of "default" option either.
I guess some people forgot that Telltale still has like 60% control over Clementine's character. And that includes her personality. Unfortunate but true
Funny thing is that in the past it was stated that her sexuality is determinant, so we have one argument for each. Can’t fight for the facts if there’s another statement that contradicts ?
To be fair, Telltale has played up the "you determine (all) Clementine's traits" for a while. Her personality is determined through the acti… moreons you pick, people just assumed this means sexuality as well: "I only ever picked the dudes/girls, that must mean that's what she likes exclusively."
Funny thing is that in the past it was stated that her sexuality is determinant, so we have one argument for each. Can’t fight for the facts if there’s another statement that contradicts ?
Funny thing is that in the past it was stated that her sexuality is determinant, so we have one argument for each. Can’t fight for the facts if there’s another statement that contradicts ?
Funny thing is that in the past it was stated that her sexuality is determinant, so we have one argument for each. Can’t fight for the facts if there’s another statement that contradicts ?
“Clem sexuality is confirmed NOT determinant. She's bisexual no matter what.”
Which means that she could go either away and it just depends on your choices for her. In other words: it is determinant.
To make her bi is a cheap way to allow the player to decide what she is since any other option would close doors and make it “not determinant”. So, actually, she is “bi” so that it can be determinant.
Decided by one writer also she isn't bi if she doesn't do anything bi in her life....she is straight if she loved Gabe and loves Louis so use some of ur brain cells and think about that.
Bisexual people aren't less bisexual if they date men. I'm bisexual and have never been with a girl, and that doesn't make me any less bi.
The fact that the choice to pick between Vi and Lou exists basically is saying she would not be opposed to dating either gender. You picking Louis doesn't change that.
Decided by one writer also she isn't bi if she doesn't do anything bi in her life....she is straight if she loved Gabe and loves Louis so use some of ur brain cells and think about that.
It's time I enlighten you all. Someone else on this forum messaged Mary about it and this was what she said in reply.
It's hard to refute something that a group of writers sat down for a long time and agreed would be the case, but I can understand why some players wish it wasn't this way.
Yeah no problem, it's just that sexuality isn't a trait at all, but there are personality traits. So you can't really compare the two like that. Maybe that's what some people are confused about, so I understand what you meant.
There's a huge difference between you trying to say a child had a crush on a grown man from an optional scene and a writer confirming a character is bisexual.
It does change because she prefers to be straight rather than become bi the thought of dating girls is fine for a girl every human being thinks of the 2 genders and sometimes have some sort of likeness to them but if he/she doesn't DO anything with his/her same gender they can't be considered bi.
Do you know what bisexual means?
Bisexual people aren't less bisexual if they date men. I'm bisexual and have never been with a girl, and… more that doesn't make me any less bi.
The fact that the choice to pick between Vi and Lou exists basically is saying she would not be opposed to dating either gender. You picking Louis doesn't change that.
Just because a bisexual girl doesn't do anything with girls doesn't make her any less bi. She literally isn't opposed to dating women. That's literally the meaning of bisexual, being attracted to both genders. Bisexual people do not become straight when they date the opposite gender.
It does change because she prefers to be straight rather than become bi the thought of dating girls is fine for a girl every human being thi… morenks of the 2 genders and sometimes have some sort of likeness to them but if he/she doesn't DO anything with his/her same gender they can't be considered bi.
unfortunately different sets of writers have different sets of ideas,and some like other genders than others, looking at her twitter, great! but the character of Clem was already written in a certain way
There's a huge difference between you trying to say a child had a crush on a grown man from an optional scene and a writer confirming a character is bisexual.
Sure you can compare them, within a story telling perspective you can at least. If you can decide so many things about Clementine, then why not her sexuality as well? I see no confusion, just a failed assumption.
Yeah no problem, it's just that sexuality isn't a trait at all, but there are personality traits. So you can't really compare the two like that. Maybe that's what some people are confused about, so I understand what you meant.
unfortunately different sets of writers have different sets of ideas,and some like other genders than others, looking at her twitter, great! but the character of Clem was already written in a certain way
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Why is this so weird for some people though.. Clem is a character that already exists, you only control her actions, but you can't change who she is in her core. Being straight isn't some kind of "default" option either.
This thread is unnecessary, we need Blind to cleans these threads again.
To be fair, Telltale has played up the "you determine (all) Clementine's traits" for a while. Her personality is determined through the actions you pick, people just assumed this means sexuality as well: "I only ever picked the dudes/girls, that must mean that's what she likes exclusively."
I guess some people forgot that Telltale still has like 60% control over Clementine's character. And that includes her personality. Unfortunate but true
Funny thing is that in the past it was stated that her sexuality is determinant, so we have one argument for each. Can’t fight for the facts if there’s another statement that contradicts ?
Sexuality doesn't have anything to do with personality.
Do you have a source for that?
Who said that?
Why does it feel weird?
Me not caring about Clem’s sexuality while watching this thread burn...
Edit: (I removed my comment because I'm honestly sick of going back and forth about this.)
Really continuing to speak for how interesting and exciting the game's story is.
“Clem sexuality is confirmed NOT determinant. She's bisexual no matter what.”
Which means that she could go either away and it just depends on your choices for her. In other words: it is determinant.
To make her bi is a cheap way to allow the player to decide what she is since any other option would close doors and make it “not determinant”. So, actually, she is “bi” so that it can be determinant.
Decided by one writer also she isn't bi if she doesn't do anything bi in her life....she is straight if she loved Gabe and loves Louis so use some of ur brain cells and think about that.
Do you know what bisexual means?
Bisexual people aren't less bisexual if they date men. I'm bisexual and have never been with a girl, and that doesn't make me any less bi.
The fact that the choice to pick between Vi and Lou exists basically is saying she would not be opposed to dating either gender. You picking Louis doesn't change that.
Um, what with Luke?
Why do you need the writer's confirmation? The fact that we're given the choice to romance Violet confirmed it, didn't it?
Apparently not to a lot of people.
I didn't say it does.
It's time I enlighten you all. Someone else on this forum messaged Mary about it and this was what she said in reply.
It's hard to refute something that a group of writers sat down for a long time and agreed would be the case, but I can understand why some players wish it wasn't this way.
It's Lexi's alt
Buddy she was a child, no she didn't.
They literally were good friends. That's it.
OH YIKES
well she wouldn't react like this to Kenny would she?
Can we not with this please, she was eleven years old.
you can choose not see this scene and the same with the current ex TT devs,but who cares
Yeah no problem, it's just that sexuality isn't a trait at all, but there are personality traits. So you can't really compare the two like that. Maybe that's what some people are confused about, so I understand what you meant.
There's a huge difference between you trying to say a child had a crush on a grown man from an optional scene and a writer confirming a character is bisexual.
Why are people somehow offended about this?
Because they're pandering to the LGBTQ+ community, shoving it down our throats!! REEEE /s
It does change because she prefers to be straight rather than become bi the thought of dating girls is fine for a girl every human being thinks of the 2 genders and sometimes have some sort of likeness to them but if he/she doesn't DO anything with his/her same gender they can't be considered bi.
That's it folks.
Just because a bisexual girl doesn't do anything with girls doesn't make her any less bi. She literally isn't opposed to dating women. That's literally the meaning of bisexual, being attracted to both genders. Bisexual people do not become straight when they date the opposite gender.
unfortunately different sets of writers have different sets of ideas,and some like other genders than others, looking at her twitter, great! but the character of Clem was already written in a certain way
Sure you can compare them, within a story telling perspective you can at least. If you can decide so many things about Clementine, then why not her sexuality as well? I see no confusion, just a failed assumption.
And that way is bisexual.
she was wrote straight, and you can't change that or lesbian '' writer''
Fight it all you want, she's canonically bisexual at the end of the day.
it's possible she developed girl crushes, but a straight out lesbian? i don't think so, what was Gabe? why kiss him?