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Is it safe to drink from my TOMI Drinking Vessel?

figmentPezfigmentPez
edited July 2010 in Shopping or Activation Support
The description in the store for the Tales of Monkey Island Drinking Vessel says "perfect for all beverages, pirate or otherwise." but on the bottom of my mug is a sticker that says "State of California, Prop 65, This product may contain one or more substances or chemicals known to the state of California to cause birth defects and other reproductive harm."

I'm a guy, so I'm not likely to be pregnant anytime soon, but I am curious why the mug carries the warning label.

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  • ElvenmonkElvenmonk
    edited June 2010
    Well to let you know, if you get a USB cable read that little sticker on it. It says the same thing, or that they may cause cancer. (Which is why my friends and I refer to USB cables as cancer cables now)

    So I'd go with that it's safe to drink from. That's just a little pre-emptive thing the state of CA has.
  • VeronicanPlayVeronicanPlay
    edited June 2010
    Found this which I think explains just fine.
    Alcoremortis wrote: »
    Most of those warnings originate from force-feeding rats enormous amounts of those chemicals to see if they're dangerous. So unless you actually eat the cup (I think you'd probably have to eat several cups, actually), I think you'll be fine.

    And of course there is the thread about it: http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17252
  • figmentPezfigmentPez
    edited June 2010
    Elvenmonk wrote: »
    Well to let you know, if you get a USB cable read that little sticker on it. It says the same thing, or that they may cause cancer. (Which is why my friends and I refer to USB cables as cancer cables now)

    That's probably because of the solder used in in the cables. Solder commonly contains lead (though there is lead-free solder).
    VeronicanPlay wrote: »
    Found this which I think explains just fine.

    And of course there is the thread about it: http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17252

    Hmm, I would have found that thread by searching if they called it a Drinking Vessel like the store does. Way to make the thread easy to find.

    Anyway, as for "force-feeding rats enormous amounts of those chemicals" I'm pretty sure that's true for some chemicals like artificial sweeteners and such, but heavy metals like lead and cadmium are toxic even in small doses. Not only that, but they're bio-accumulative, which means that once they get into an organism they aren't normally eliminated and continue to build up over time.

    That other thread also gets things wrong in assuming that only paint can contain these heavy metals. Pottery glazes (and this mug is glazed over the entire surface) can also contain lead. I don't know if lead-based glazes are commonly used anymore for decorative pieces, but I think it's in Telltale Game's best interests to do some checking. It would not be good to advertise it as a usable mug if it should only be decorative because of a non food-grade glaze on the ceramic.
  • FitzoliverJFitzoliverJ
    edited June 2010
    Telltale cannot guarantee that the mug was constructed on a planet devoid of peanuts.

    AJB
  • bonniebonnie
    edited June 2010
    Should be fine to drink from the monkey vessels. However, there is a warning label on the bottom that says, “State of California PROP 65 this product may contain one or more substances or chemicals known to the state of California to cause birth defects and other reproductive harm”.

    Cheers,
    bonnie
  • The Brown DragonThe Brown Dragon
    edited June 2010
    bonnie wrote: »
    Should be fine to drink from the monkey vessels. However, there is a warning label on the bottom that says, “State of California PROP 65 this product may contain one or more substances or chemicals known to the state of California to cause birth defects and other reproductive harm”.

    Cheers,
    bonnie

    So...

    It SHOULD be fine to drink from, but it MAY contain substances known to cause birth defects.

    So, to summarize...

    It's okay to drink from the mug. However, if my children are born with a disorder that was directly caused by drinking from the mug, it'll be my own fault because I was warned...

    :confused:
  • DrRocketGeniusDrRocketGenius
    edited June 2010
    bonnie wrote: »
    Should be fine

    Hm... I don't like the sound of that that.
  • bonniebonnie
    edited June 2010
    Whether the mug has the chemicals/metals or not in the paint or materials used to produce the mugs, California needs to have a warning sticker on the product because of prop 65. It's called covering their behind. Mugs did not originate within California so prop 65 states we have to post all potential risks. The Sun will be the next to sticker with prop 65 warning labels...
  • DrRocketGeniusDrRocketGenius
    edited June 2010
    Wait, so do a lot of products in CA have that label?
  • bonniebonnie
    edited June 2010
    Quite a few, yes. Especially, dishware made from similar painted ceramic-ish products that people will consume food/drink on or out of.
  • Indrid ColdIndrid Cold
    edited June 2010
    So, could you say that although this risk does exist, it's no bigger than the risk from other painted ceramic stuff, many of which don't have that sticker?
  • PedsterUKPedsterUK
    edited June 2010
    bonnie wrote: »
    Quite a few, yes. Especially, dishware made from similar painted ceramic-ish products that people will consume food/drink on or out of.
    Ironic..... I can understand the MI mug having a warning because it can be seen as a prop/ornament - but to have warnings on actual made-for-food/drink items is a bit odd considering it should be constructed especially for that purpose in the first place :confused:
  • der_ketzerder_ketzer
    edited June 2010
    Indrid Cold wrote: »
    So, could you say that although this risk does exist, it's no bigger than the risk from other painted ceramic stuff, many of which don't have that sticker?

    The other items maybe are not "new" enough to have the sticker (I don't know how long these stickers are on items in Calfornia).
  • Indrid ColdIndrid Cold
    edited June 2010
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    The other items maybe are not "new" enough to have the sticker (I don't know how long these stickers are on items in Calfornia).
    I'm not talking about California or Telltale or any place or seller particularly. It is a fact (I think) that most ceramic drinking vessels worldwide don't come with such stickers. What I'm asking is whether this one has the sticker because for some reason the risk is greater than it is with other vessels or simply because they're more concerned about covering their backs than other places, and the "risk" is the same for all.
  • The Brown DragonThe Brown Dragon
    edited June 2010
    Indrid Cold wrote: »
    I'm not talking about California or Telltale or any place or seller particularly. It is a fact (I think) that most ceramic drinking vessels worldwide don't come with such stickers. What I'm asking is whether this one has the sticker because for some reason the risk is greater than it is with other vessels or simply because they're more concerned about covering their backs than other places, and the "risk" is the same for all.

    I'd like to know the answer to this question too.

    If somebody from Telltale can say "The risk of drinking from this mug is no greater than the risk of drinking from any other ceramic mug" I'll be happy.:)

    Or even if somebody from Telltale can say "The risk of drinking from this mug is slightly greater than the risk of drinking from a mug without the sticker" I'll at least be more informed and better able to decide whether or not to drink from it.:cool:

    P.S. I've bought plenty of mugs here in Australia and never seen a sticker like that before so we definitely don't put those stickers on everything over here.
  • Macfly77Macfly77 Moderator
    edited June 2010
    Not sure about anywhere else, but like someone posted in another thread, people are more "sue-happy" in California than elsewhere, so it is common for manufacturers of pretty much anything to put disclaimers and other warnings on their products.
    For example, at Safeway (where I work), we have to post a warning (Prop 65 as well) by every display of balsamic or red wine vinegar.
  • bonniebonnie
    edited June 2010
    Risk of drinking from this mug is no greater than the risk of drinking from any other ceramic mug.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited June 2010
    Do it...do it.
  • corruptbigginscorruptbiggins
    edited June 2010
    The content of the drinking vessel is probably more likely to harm you than the vessel itself. Depending on the content of course.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited June 2010
    Asbestos tea is ok right?
  • Indrid ColdIndrid Cold
    edited June 2010
    bonnie wrote: »
    Risk of drinking from this mug is no greater than the risk of drinking from any other ceramic mug.
    Thanks! :)
  • The Brown DragonThe Brown Dragon
    edited June 2010
    bonnie wrote: »
    Risk of drinking from this mug is no greater than the risk of drinking from any other ceramic mug.

    Perfect! Thanks! :D

    Tonight I think I'll have my coffee in my new mug! :)

    NOTE: I think laws like this really end up harming the consumer.

    They make it harder to distinguish between the companies who go to every effort to make sure their products are safe and the companies who do it cheap with no regard for how many child-killing chemicals make their way into the product.
  • der_ketzerder_ketzer
    edited June 2010
    The Brown Dragon wrote: »
    NOTE: I think laws like this really end up harming the consumer.
    I think it's worse for the manufacturer when he no longer will sell his products because custumers are confused by those stickers.
  • The Brown DragonThe Brown Dragon
    edited June 2010
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    I think it's worse for the manufacturer when he no longer will sell his products because custumers are confused by those stickers.

    Agreed! Good point. :)
  • FarlanderFarlander
    edited July 2010
    ...
    Did anyone try to drink Grog xD from the mug? It would have been very authentic! :D I'm just curious what happens to the mug after that (if the person will still be able to write something :p )
  • NeatNitNeatNit
    edited July 2010
    It's not Grog xD, it's Grog XD, and someone will drink it in this mug eventually... :)
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