A uk buyer...any advice?

Hi everybody, i am a uk buyer who would love to get sam and max season 1, but also the hardcover surfin the highway. Obviously, i know with shipping etc this will cost me nearly £50.

What i was wondering is this: how reliable/fast is shipping, and how well packaged are the items? I know it sounds anal but i am mildy OCD, and i would be pretty dissapointed if the collectors books came out of shape etc.

Sorry for a strange post, any replies will be much appreciated!

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  • EmilyEmily Telltale Alumni
    edited February 2008
    I will be completely honest with you: shipping from our fulfillment house is slow, and packing has been hit or miss in the past. Since these haven't started shipping yet (and aren't actually done being manufactured yet!), we don't know right now how they'll be packed.

    We are looking into other options for shipping and hopefully won't have to live with the spotty shipping forever. Normally I'd say if shipping time and packing materials are a huge concern for you, then you should wait because it may be better in the not-too-distant future, but because this is a limited edition and I don't know how long we'll have them in stock, obviously waiting is risky, too.

    Sorry. I wish I could say we've never had any problems with shipping to Europe, but it wouldn't be true. That said, most packages are fine (although sometimes a bit slow to arrive). Also, on the plus side, the hardcover will be a lot sturdier than a paperback, and as a result, probably less likely to get damaged in the mail.
  • edited February 2008
    my season one disc came through perfectly and fairly quickly too

    and the shipping for the hardcover is only £9.95 and it was the same for the disc version

    expect to pay duty when it arrives in the uk if you get the hardcover, which is why i plan to order the paperback
  • edited February 2008
    why would i have to pay duty for hardcover but not paperback...the weight? how would that work, just ask for money at my door?

    And emily, thank you so much for an honest reply. Time isnt really an issue, but the packaging is :S...i am still no closer to a decision, and as you said, its a collectors edition! Damn...

    Also, what would be the procedure if it came all damaged... would i end up paying loads to send it back and then have to take the risk again...i wish you had a UK base!
  • edited February 2008
    martymcfly wrote: »
    why would i have to pay duty for hardcover but not paperback...the weight? how would that work, just ask for money at my door?

    And emily, thank you so much for an honest reply. Time isnt really an issue, but the packaging is :S...i am still no closer to a decision, and as you said, its a collectors edition! Damn...

    Also, what would be the procedure if it came all damaged... would i end up paying loads to send it back and then have to take the risk again...i wish you had a UK base!

    price the paperback is below the value for import tax and the hardcover is above

    also the value is displayed so they send you a letter saying the value you need to pay
  • edited February 2008
    hmm im confused, i thort i jus had to pay VAT on my credit card or whatever...are you saying if i get the book and series 1 which is 80 dollars, i will have to then pay extras charges on top of the postage?!
  • edited February 2008
    martymcfly wrote: »
    hmm im confused, i thort i jus had to pay VAT on my credit card or whatever...are you saying if i get the book and series 1 which is 80 dollars, i will have to then pay extras charges on top of the postage?!

    i would try and explain it but it is confusing, but you pay UK vat on season one as it is technically DLC with a free physical gift which new laws were placed about a year ago.
  • edited February 2008
    hmm sorry still confused...i have only ever ordered from america on amazon uk before and it was as easy as paying delivery and waiting...
  • EmilyEmily Telltale Alumni
    edited February 2008
    We charge VAT for downloadable products in our store, but not for physical products. Customs sometimes charges tax for physical products when they arrive in your country. Patters is right that the taxes are based on the value of the package. I don't know what the limit is, but I believe the $20 paperback falls under that limit, so tax won't be added. The $50 hardcover probably will have tax added when it arrives in the UK.

    Downloadable products are a different story. If you buy Season One from us (either with or without the free bonus disc), you will be charged 15% VAT at the time of the transaction. If you opt to get the bonus disc, the value of the disc is $0 and you should not have to pay any additional taxes on it. The price of the Season One downloads will not be included as part of the value for your package; only the book (and any other merchandise you buy) will be counted toward the package value.

    Our policy is to replace a product if it arrives damaged, at our own expense. We wouldn't make you pay to send it back (but as this is a limited edition, we might send you prepaid packaging for you to send it back in).

    I hope that helps. :)

    (By the way, bigger sites like Amazon have VAT-inclusive prices, which is why you don't have to worry about any of this -- they add the VAT into the purchase price, making it invisible to the customer. So the taxes are still being collected, you just don't know about it.)
  • edited February 2008
    Emily wrote: »
    Customs sometimes charges tax for physical products when they arrive in your country. Patters is right that the taxes are based on the value of the package. I don't know what the limit is, but I believe the $20 paperback falls under that limit, so tax won't be added. The $50 hardcover probably will have tax added when it arrives in the UK.

    The limit is £18, so $35 at the moment.
  • edited February 2008
    The limit is £18, so $35 at the moment.

    Is that so? It'll probably be cheaper for me to order loads of things seperately than face the dreaded customs... interesting...
    It seems you get charged customs duty if it is £7 or over. Source.

    About the packaging, when my Sam & Max (not Surfin' the Highway) and Bone books came, they were in perfect condition - the poster was all bashed in, but you're not ordering a poster. I don't think you're going to have a problem, to be honest (don't blame me if something goes wrong though!). Don't worry, I'm a fellow UKer who is ordering the book too, so we'll be in the same boat. ;)
  • edited February 2008
    It seems you get charged customs duty if it is £7 or over. Source.

    Never been stopped for anything under £18, personally. My cynical brain suspects that that's probably because the duty on a £18 game is 63p (3.5%) and would therefore cost them more to process than they would gain. Indeed, it certainly seems a general consensus amongst UK games importers that £18 is the limit. Still, anything you import is at your own risk.

    I had more to say, but patters beat me to it. Damn you patters, Daaaaaaaaamn youuuuuuuuu!
  • edited February 2008
    Hmm okay now i am more tempted...seems that the season 1 disk is worth 0 so wont count towards the cost. However the book will be £25 i think, so i will be charged extra...hmm thanks for all the advice...i think to be honest even if it did come damaged i wouldn't be too bothered sending it back for a replacement...just wondering now the exact price, once i factor in the £10 or so shipping etc...plus the possibility of import tax...that link above does seem to indicate that books are exempt though?! One good thing to known is there is a great community on this site, thanks for the guidance fellow gamers and telltale employees.
  • edited February 2008
    Books Free S / Z

    you may need to pay import tax but it is pretty much definitely exempt from customs duty

    postage is between £5 and £10 so i think £10 is a good bet and should cover the excess i goes over (book price)

    if you pay by paypal it usually gives you the value in sterling too which is a definate benefit
  • edited February 2008
    Nah it'll be on a credit card, my dads no less, it wouldnt accept my debit card number...just need to decide now...jus dont like the idea of extra charge etc, its already gona cost 50 pounds with shipping, season 1 and the book...hmm.
  • EmilyEmily Telltale Alumni
    edited February 2008
    Shipping will cost you $9.95, which is about £5.

    Also - the dollar is on your side right now!
  • edited February 2008
    Haha i am very swayed...i could just buy the series 1 from the shops but i dont like the cover art as much as the one in the telltale store, and as well i thought i may as well get it on here while i get the book...i will prob place an order on Monday...just wondering now if the postman or someone will be demanding extra charges! (the exchange on the dollar is very good at the moment i have to agree)
  • edited February 2008
    martymcfly wrote: »
    Haha i am very swayed...i could just buy the series 1 from the shops but i dont like the cover art as much as the one in the telltale store, and as well i thought i may as well get it on here while i get the book...i will prob place an order on Monday...just wondering now if the postman or someone will be demanding extra charges! (the exchange on the dollar is very good at the moment i have to agree)

    Since you're ordering a book and everyone says you don't get charged customs for that, the postman won't give you an extra charge. Should you order something demands a customs charge, you'll get that plus an £8 'handling fee' from the Royal Mail. We do love them, eh?

    The exchange on the dollar was amazing in the third quater (I think it was) of last year. It was at 0.4something.
  • edited February 2008
    Hmm damn it, and extra 8 quid as well?! Royal mail sucks, so much of my stuff comes damaged etc...i may have to reconsider this for now...
  • edited February 2008
    martymcfly wrote: »
    Hmm damn it, and extra 8 quid as well?! Royal mail sucks, so much of my stuff comes damaged etc...i may have to reconsider this for now...

    Remember, that's only if customs is charged. I still think it is worth you ordering the book, either way.
  • edited February 2008
    I looked up the HM Revenue & Customs website and found this page on what items are charged duty and VAT from overseas. Books are duty free. It's also listed as being charged at 17.5% if it's over 18 quid which this book is not.

    P.S. - The Royal Mail website is rubbish.
  • edited February 2008
    I looked up the HM Revenue & Customs website and found this page on what items are charged duty and VAT from overseas. Books are duty free. It's also listed as being charged at 17.5% if it's over 18 quid which this book is not.

    P.S. - The Royal Mail website is rubbish.

    already linked that earlier haha
  • edited February 2008
    So you did! I must've forgot about it. Would've saved me a few minutes too.
  • edited February 2008
    So you did! I must've forgot about it. Would've saved me a few minutes too.

    yeah i guess i agree with your previous statement that royal mails site is dreadful especially the tracking system
  • edited February 2008
    hmm so the general consensus is that even though i pay for series 1, because the disk is free, the value is 0 so it doesnt count. However, the hardback book i wanted is 50 dollars, which would be 25 pounds....which is higher than 18 pounds....?
  • edited February 2008
    martymcfly wrote: »
    hmm so the general consensus is that even though i pay for series 1, because the disk is free, the value is 0 so it doesnt count. However, the hardback book i wanted is 50 dollars, which would be 25 pounds....which is higher than 18 pounds....?

    you got it
  • edited February 2008
    Hmm so higher than 18 pounds means i have to pay extra crap anyway doesnt it, regardless of it being a book
  • edited February 2008
    Above 18 pounds, you have to pay VAT, yes.
  • edited February 2008
    hmm im so confused, so i will pay telltale then have an extra charge along the line
  • edited February 2008
    martymcfly wrote: »
    hmm im so confused, so i will pay telltale then have an extra charge along the line

    Pretty much, yeah. That's the bummer when ordering from America (or anywhere else, for that matter)... infact, the Telltale store was the first place from America I've ordered from.
  • edited February 2008
    Pretty much, yeah. That's the bummer when ordering from America (or anywhere else, for that matter)... infact, the Telltale store was the first place from America I've ordered from.

    snap i have also imported some merch from a band

    and i ordered a paperback copy of surfing the highway
  • edited February 2008
    hmm damn no closer to a decision then really
  • edited February 2008
    martymcfly wrote: »
    hmm damn no closer to a decision then really

    Just do it. ;) You won't regret it when you get it.
  • edited February 2008
    You'll be charged the Import VAT Tax @ 17.5%, and I think the standard handling fee The Royal Mail charge is £8.

    The Royal Mail charge may be more if they have to open/re-seal your package (unlikely) and most couriers will ask for the handling charge on imported goods at the point of delivery, so make sure you keep some money around to pay the man :P

    For what it's worth, I've so far had the sketchbook, season 1 DVD and a T-Shirt and it's all turned up in perfect condition. Just ordered Season 2 & Surfin' the Highway and noticed the animated series on DVD - can't wait 'til I get paid next week and can justify ordering that to myself, I can smell the nostalgia already! =D
  • edited February 2008
    I was woken up this morning to see the postman at the door with a quite large parcel with my tiny paperback copy of Surfin' the Highway. Still it arrived it perfect condition and took 16 days to get delivered to the UK. I didnt get any extra hidden charges; all in all very safe and very good to finally have a copy!
  • edited February 2008
    Its because i want the hardback which will tip the price over, VAT isnt bad but an extra 8 quid is too much atm, im a student and it would already cost 50 for the game and book.
  • EmilyEmily Telltale Alumni
    edited February 2008
    asb3stos wrote: »
    I was woken up this morning to see the postman at the door with a quite large parcel with my tiny paperback copy of Surfin' the Highway. Still it arrived it perfect condition and took 16 days to get delivered to the UK. I didnt get any extra hidden charges; all in all very safe and very good to finally have a copy!

    Glad to hear it! Thanks for posting about your good experience -- we usually only hear about the bad ones. :p
  • edited February 2008
    Emily wrote: »
    Glad to hear it! Thanks for posting about your good experience -- we usually only hear about the bad ones. :p

    *shuffles nerviously*
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