Anyone else regretting killing ***** with Clem watching?
I don't know about you guys, but when we had the option to kill Danny, I actually took my time with this one. I was thinking, this guy was sick and disturbed and he should die for what he did to Mark, and if I left him he may be able to get free and go after Clem. AND if I left him he might die of blood-loss, turn into a dead and trap Clem and Lilly in the meat locker, so after this decision, i knew something would go wrong, but i decided to kill him. Of course, Clem screamed and she looked afraid.
Later on she says "Did you have to kill the brothers?" So obviously it doesn't matter if you don't kill Andy, but if you kill either one she thinks of you differently. I'm just wondering if she will be afraid of me next time I get a weapon in my hands or something, or if she will go to Lilly/Carley for protection instead of me..
That was very smart of TTG, and I applaud them for it!
Later on she says "Did you have to kill the brothers?" So obviously it doesn't matter if you don't kill Andy, but if you kill either one she thinks of you differently. I'm just wondering if she will be afraid of me next time I get a weapon in my hands or something, or if she will go to Lilly/Carley for protection instead of me..
That was very smart of TTG, and I applaud them for it!
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Lilly isn't a stranger to handling Walkers she's one of the best fighters in the group she could of handled a walker stuck in a bear trap.
If I had to kill them because they were a threat, I wouldn't have felt bad if Clementine had seen it. I don't think she needs to grow up being afraid to kill things that are directly threatening her life. I would have explained my reasoning as best as I could, and knew that she would understand when she was older.
She had the gun right when you made the choice.
Oh.. right.. Well then, leave out that part, he still deserved to die for what he did, in my opinion. It just sucked a lot that Clem was watching, and that she cowered behind Lilly when you looked at her
I was honestly more concerned with finding Duck and Katjaa first, and new the first brother couldn't get out of the bear trap, so I wasn't really concerned with killing him right then.
Brenda got nabbed by Walker Mark, but Katjaa was safe. I had no way to immediately get rid of either of them, and then the yelling started outside - so, back outside to try and find Duck.
Then the confrontation with the Second brother - get him subdued, and THIS was the point that I honestly thought that we were going to get a chance to "kill" them - which at this point, would have been acceptable to me. They are too dangerous to leave alive. The choice then came - kill the guy...or leave?
Now I probably should have killed this guy, but I didn't. Everybody was ready to leave, and Kenny had just been shot. Also, his mother was definitely dead (she had been bit by a walker), and his brother was stuck in the barn. I made the decision to leave, and was relieved to see the electric fence give out and the farm become overrun with walkers. It's possible the last brother survived, but highly unlikely.
Because a man stuck in a bear trap with no gun can knock walkers heads off with his bare fist.
I guess Andy is some kind of back flip martial artist that just jumped on top of his house while we weren't looking and got away.
Point is they're both dead whether you killed them or not it's the choice if you wanted to take your anger and frustration out on them or not.
To be fair, you don't really know you are leaving them to the Walkers when you are presented with the options to kill them. It's only after you make the decision to walk away that the Generator shorts and the Walkers invade the farm.
Like I said above, I really thought there was going to be a moment (after guaranteeing everyone's safety) where you could then choose what to do with the Family, but it didn't work out that way. Still, I'll sleep easier knowing that both of them ended up as Walker food.
I knocked Andy's teeth out and broke his nose but didn't kill him since he could barely walk and his farm was being over run by walkers. The brothers were no longer threat to us really. The bear traps are altered so Danny could never realistically return to the motor inn for revenge and the condition I left Andy he wouldn't have out run the walkers either.
If I wanted someone dead I would rather have someone else kill them. Mafia bosses don't get their hands dirty they have hired henchman. Partly why Kenny is upset with Lee is because Lee left Kenny to kill Larry so the blood is on his hands so he feels guilty and like the bad guy.
I think if he had molested Clementine that would be different, he would have to die at my hand but I would want his death to be as slow and painful as possible. The slowest way for the brothers to have died would have been for the walkers to eat them alive.
Dead Mom, Brother, Farm ruined, Walkers coming, and Andy is still alive.
Overboard? I'm not sure...
There is no way they would have survived the walkers, Their defenses were down, the generator was out, Andy could barely walk and Danny couldn't walk at all. They were sitting ducks and would have been torn to shreds. You didn't need to see it to know it happened just like you didn't need to see the bandits rape and kill Joleen's daughter. Based on the principles of the walking dead it's implied and considered inevitable.
If Danny and Andy begged me to spare them and to bring them to motor inn I would have wanted to kill them more but ultimately I would have wanted them to suffer. They suffer less when you kill them since their deaths are quick. If they are left to the walkers they will be left in agonising pain. I have never seen A walker kill a person quickly. Their victims are always left screaming and watching their own bodies being eaten, sometimes their guts and organs. If you think of Dale's death in the tv show Daryl shot him to end his suffering.
What? When I left him before she gave Lee a little smile, when I killed him she was scared and hide behind Lilly. Two completely different reactions.
i think its when you decide to kill Larry but not kill Danny
You left out the most important reason to kill the St. Johns. They were unrepentant murderers and cannibals who presumably would continue to torture (remember our legless friend?) and murder as long as they were alive. They had to be executed in order to save innocent lives, probably many, many innocent lives.
I doubt in the "real" zombie apocalypse if you couldn't have had one of your group lead Clem an appropriate distance away before executing the St. Johns. The game took a thoroughly contrived approach to the situation (though it would not have been difficult to construct a scenario where you either must kill them in front of Clem, or they escape--another example of poor design by TTG) in order to create an unrealistic but controversial scenario.
In any case, executing the St. Johns was a moral obligation. If that needed to be done in front of Clem, so be it. They could not be allowed to escape.
Jangjang wants to pretend it's all about anger because s/he wants to evade the tough choice involved in executing mass murderers in front of a child.
Well if it makes you feel any better, based on some of the deleted audio Danny may actually wanted to molest Clem. And they did leave a hint in-game, next play through when Lee and Kenny break out of the walk-in cooler, pay close attention to the conservation Lee ease drops on between Danny and Andy (They would be discussing which to keep alive).
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