Kenny returning as a villain?
Do you guys think that if Kenny is alive, is he going to return in season 2 as a villain? Honestly, if Kenny is alive, I hope they won't turn Kenny into a insane man who wants to hurt Clementine, it would destroy Kenny's character and make his redemption scene pointless because the redemption scene was supposed to show how much Kenny changed.
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Fans seem to be split right down the middle in regards to Kenny's possible role in S2. Some want to see him again, while others want Kenny to be zombie chow. I have a theory that the player's relationship with Kenny will determine his behaviour in S2 (if he's going to come back). For example, if you were completely at odds with Kenny from the meat locker scene onwards, he'll be a complete lunatic by the time we meet him again. But if you and Kenny were the best of friends, even during the darkest times, then perhaps he won't be past the point of no return quite yet.
I was totally against Kenny :P It was funny to see him is despair, and I erally didn't agreed with him in much of anything unless the boat... On the other hand, if he shows up, I don't expect him to try to hurt Clrm, at least as something premeditated, since he has high family values and Clem is like his family now... But I'm guessing if he comes kind off crazy he can try to hurt her... But I don't think he'll show up as the Antagonist of the game
I was on his side till the meat locker and all of a sudden he acts like I've always been out to get him, I treated his family nice afterwards but as for him? Fuck that guy.
Yes, like I said, I only sided with kenny when we didn't know if his kid wasn't bitten or not (I said taht we should wait) and about the boat (sounded like a good idea to look for an island or something... But for the rest we was allways acting like he was the boss and that everyone should shut up to what he said... I didn't liked him, but it's not like I hated him, I don't mind if he returns.
It was a strong dislike in my case. Even after everything I had done for Katjaa and Duck he wouldn't help me go look for Clementine knowing I was bit, I used the "fuck you" option in that case. Don't think my dislike of Kenny means I liked Lilly though, in my opinion I'm glad their both g one, neither was suited to be a leader but neither was I, the only thing I worried about was keeping Clem safe.
Adding to that, Kenny's character arc was complete - one of the few characters to be granted a full arc before being pulled out of the group. Not sure what Telltale's decision on Kenny's fate is. BUT I have a preference.
Actually, you just pointed out one of the biggest problems with Kenny's comeback, if Telltale were to do it: How do you continue the story of a character from a previous instalment, when his story is basically finished? This can lead to a "Captain Barbossa" scenario, where a major character can make an absolutely epic return, only for the filmmakers to do nothing of any real interest or significance with him.
One of the better examples of restoring a character from a seemingly dead-end situation is Ellen Ripley. By the time Ridley Scott's ALIEN was over, her "arc" (so to speak) was done. But James Cameron found new ways to give her purpose in his sequel.
I dont think so,many kenny fans will cry on the forums then..
I think they messed up slightly in writing Kenny. I supported Kenny in everything except for crushing Larry's head, letting the Walkers eat the girl in Macon and letting Ben fall to his death. I helped rescue his son Duck from walkers, supported him against Larry, got Duck a protein bar, gave Duck and Kenny their rations, risked my life saving Duck from the St. Johns, shot Duck so he wouldn't have to, killed the zombie boy in the attic so he wouldn't have to, and on and on and on. I kept helping him even after more than one instance of him refusing to help me when I was in danger.
And when the moment of truth comes and I'm about to ask him to help me rescue Clementine, he accuses me of being 'out for myself' and 'selfish' and so on. Because, again, I didn't help him crush an old man's head in front of his grieving daughter, I didn't let a woman be eaten alive for our convenience, and I didn't drop a teenager to his death because Kenny didn't like him. It was so wildly out of line with my behavior from Episode 1 on that Kenny seemed almost insane to reach such a conclusion.
Yeah. Fuck that guy.
That makes so much scence, Kenny was my fav ( better than Clem lol) I tried to make realistic choices for me, smashing Larry's head in ( ahh the memories) not shooting the girl with zambies all over her. i did save Ben though even though he fudges up a lot I know I'd fudge up worse in a zombie apocalypse, I got the bro speech!!!!!! " you and Clem are the only family I got left"'favorite quote in the whole game. I hope Kenny comes back and looks after Clem. I probably sound like a fan girl,
This reminds me of the idea Matt and Pat said on there Walking Dead play through, it would fit the themes of the Walking Dead but I can't imagine the fans would like that, I personally would like to see Kenny alive but if they are going to go down the insanity road then I would prefer him to be dead.
He already was a villain back in Season One. I really do hope he is alive though, just so I (Clem) can put a bullet in his head myself.
Not really, one Clem killing him would make no sense no matter what, and if we are talking about 'villains' Lilly was somewhat worse, but that conversation has been talked to death.
My opinion. Leave me alone!
Really? Point is it would be out of content and would be a rather bad immersion breaker, it won't happen, its far more likely you will just find his body, won't that be enough?
I might hate Kenny but Bio's still right about it being out of context.
My thoughts on Kenny. Its hard to imagine someone always being against him. You would have to really try to spite him from day one, allowing Duck to be thrown to walkers and then trying to save the life of someone who tried to kill you when doing so puts yourself in danger.
Personally, I was pissed at Kenny after episode 2. That anger died around halfway through episode 3 right along side his family.
The main problem with Kenny is that he doesn't appreciate your support unless you support him 100%, at all times. There is no middle ground with him. If you oppose him at all, he hates your guts and hesitates before trying to help you in a life or death situation, eventually abandoning you in your hour of need unless you appeal to his affection for Clementine. You have to essentially be a Kenny yes-man for him to agree to come with you otherwise.
That moment at the end of Episode 4 just made me lose a ton of respect for the man.
Kenny hasn't had any reason reason to hate Clem. So if he will returning as a villain in S2, only in the form of the walker.
In that sense if they did that I would be okay with it. I would be depressed and sad if that is the case but I would fully understand it, him being crazy for the sake of having someone be crazy is not good enough reason.
It will be too weird in terms of consistency storyline.
Glad to see you, by the way.
Same, it is so close to the zero hour I needed to talk to way more people, that and the forum has its own problems. At this point I hope Kenny made it but looking at all the things that could happen to him, I am starting to think dying in Savannah is a merciful choice...
I both believe that Kenny is alive or not. Which doesn't matter to me, I will be happy to either. But the only condition I have for him to return is him being the good old Kenny we once knew. However, I understand that such an event he suffered in Savannah will have consequences if he survived. But if he returns as a villain I'd rather see his story concluded in Episode Five. I totally agree Bio, his "redemption" was how much he changed, and so he did.
Yep, even at his worst he was a asshole that leaves you for dead, but is not quite a 'villain' so coming back as a bandit slash madman that is a antagonist of Clementine, who he felt was like a daughter to him, is pretty out there.
If Lee doesn't give food to Kenny but feeds Clementine and Duck he will come over to Lee(who's shown expecting him to be angry about it, but tells him it's okay because he took care of the kids, "and that's what a real man does.", and as soon he stops talking you hear Larry screaming "where's my food", and threatening Lee as usaul about his days in the group being numbered. Kenny responded "you're one to talk old man".
If Lee trys to Kenny about his past when they have a good relationship he doesn't need to know it, and will quickly ask if Duck is safe around him, which Lee says of course, and Kenny says that's all needs and ends the discussion. If they have bad one he says sometning like was it for touching kids because we have a couple around here. He mentions Duck and Clementine together all time. In episode two when they get to the farm he says "Duck and Clementine deserve better than starving to death in some crappy motel".
Kenny says a lot in episode 4 when Molly mentions Crawford's treatment of children. When Kenny tells Lee that he had his back every step of the way, so what kind of friend would he be if he wasn't there for him now,and you and Clem are the only family I have left and that he's with you to the end.
Kenny can directly call Lee and Clementine familiy. Go see look at that things he says when Molly mentions Crawfords treatement of children for part of a consistent view. He talks about mistakes and regrets. husband, father, and friend that. He is damaged man, but not in the way he bein depicted.
Oh my God, I'm hoping he's not in the game at all. I read we'll find out his fate, and I'm concerned about that lol.
I noticed there is a scene when he is with Ben, a zombie comes near Kenny and it looks as if he gets bitten since he does pull his arm away from it.
I know slightly off topic, but just wanted to throw that out there.
About the only thing I'd want to see less than dead Kenny is a villain Kenny. He wasn't a villain in Season 1, and his redemption showed that he WAS a good person in the end. Having him become a villain would ruin his entire Season 1 arc, which, to me, was one of the best things about Season 1.
Why would he?
It really depends on the choices you made on season 1. If you stood by Kenny all the way, there wouldn't be any reason for him to have a problem with Clem. And if he's shown as a mentally unstable character on S2, anything could happen.
"Allowing Duck to be thrown to the walkers?" Lee had to make a split-second decision between saving one life over the other, and no matter what he chose, it was going to cost the life of someone's son. But Kenny refuses to understand that.
After defending Kenny from Herschel's rage, even after comforting Kenny about his actions at the drug store, Kenny still throws my decision back in my face when the time comes to rescue Clementine. If I say Clementine's the only family I have, Kenny responds with something along the lines of "I ought to knock you flat." If there was ever a moment when I wish the game granted an option of smashing Kenny's jaw, it was that one.
Can you please remember Clem is a little girl not fucking Lilly...
I dunno, man. Flipping off Lee at the one time when Clem needed him the most was pretty damn low, even if he was beginning to show signs of improvement during the bedroom sequence.