Ideas on what happened in the 16 month timeskip
So, I was looking at Clementine's page on The Walking Dead wiki and I read something that I found pretty interesting that I didn't notice while playing much:
After the sixteen month time skip in "All That Remains", Clementine has gathered scars on her right cheek, her chin, and down her neck.
So, I'm thinking that she possibly had to get very up close and personal to a walker, or maybe she fell down and scraped her face pretty badly?
Or maybe Christa beat her, blaming her for the death of Omid? I wouldn't exactly peg Christa as the type to do that, but losing your husband/long-term boyfriend can do that to you.
She obviously toughened up. I would think that she must have been in a lot of tough calls beforehand. Which, you know, makes it weird that apparently she didn't learn how to tend a fire in those 16 months, and you have the option of saying that Omid was going to teach her.
Honestly, that sort of makes me wonder if the campfire situation was originally supposed to take place before the 16 month timeskip.
In any case, they traveled up to North Carolina from Georgia. I wonder if they ever attempted to join up with any groups and that's why it took so long to get that far.
Here are two images of Clem for comparison of scars
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First of all no GROUPS Christa does't like groups no more not after what transpired.
So the things that happened i guess were delivering a baby witnessing her/his death probably not
learnt how to sew and injury and witnessing some numerous mental breakdown from Christa
Apart from that maybe they joined a group and told them about Wellingston and maybe they got betrayed.
Were those scars. I thought those were just facial features.
Right and left cheek and 2 on the neck
Timeskips happen for a reason. I'm pretty sure nothing interesting happend during the timeskip and that's why they did it, wanted to speed up the pace/story so she was older, and by not showing or talking about what happened pretty much means nothing of value happened.
Delivering a baby in a ZA isn't intersting
Not sure I would believe that nothing of value happened.
It's the time period where Clem probably learned a lot and how to defend herself against Zombies.
YH in the shed i was like HOLY FUCK. I AM STILL NOT BITTENNN
actually, I'd say that it sounds pretty interesting. I mean, I'm pretty sure that that's what episode 3 is going to be about
and if Christa isn't back yet. that's probably when we'll be getting answers about Christa's baby through Clementine
I hate time skips because they make so sense.
Season 1, Episode 1-5, everything that happened there was within a day or two, and you're telling me that nothing happened in 16 months? I mean maybe they saw some groups and maybe they had troubles, but come on. Christa dies (Or not) in the woods by some gang. That didn't happen at all in 16 months? I can't really complain too much because we haven't seen what happened in those 16 months, it may have been rough but I'm just saying what I think.
Edit - I saw someone comment about scars on Clems face, so clearly they had some troubles before.
Episode 1-5 was roughly 4 months...
There was the three month timeskip between Episode 1 and Episode 2. They didn't explicitly state it but there was a couple of weeks between Episode 2 and Episode 3. Episode 3, 4, and 5 was three days or a little more.
Timeskips are useful because it's usually a situation where training happens or little of interest happens. But sometimes timeskips are done where huge events happen but they plan on uncovering what happens as the story goes on. (Flashbacks)
Clementine's was probably a mix of training and big events, but the big events may not have been important to show in the long run because they were mostly for training and having Clementine go through some tough stuff and toughen up.
I don't think those are supposed to be scars. TBH I think the wiki is mistaken. Other characters have those same marks on their cheeks & it seems like that's just the art style's way of showing cheekbones/shadows etc. Other characters have similar marks on their faces (Carley, Christa, Mark, Luke) The Wiki even says that Carley has "scars" on her cheeks too IIRC, but they are just the same two short black lines that other characters have. & I don't think every single character in the Walking Dead just happens to have cheek scars, lol. I think if they are supposed to be scars it's more obvious, like if you look, Pete has an actual scar on the left side of his forehead, & it looks like an actual indentation, not just a couple black lines.
I thought that too at first but i read the wiki i was like no way there are just art style but she has a lot of those lines
wiki says nothing about Carley having scars.. also, here's a comparison between Carley and S2 Clem
Here's Season 1 Clem
Here's Clem at the beginning of Season 2 before the timeskip
and here are the two models of Clem used in Season 2:
Oh I thought I remembered reading on the wiki that Carley supposedly has scars. Oops lol. You may be right, I mean Clem definitely has a lot more of those lines on her face/neck/chin etc than she used to. So maybe some of them are supposed to be scars but also is supposed to be like shadows as her face changes shape when she gets older, like for other older characters when it does seem to just be part of the art style
It never got "delivered" though.
Yes but that's what a timeskip is for, skip the "boring training parts" and get right to the action when she knows it all. Not saying this is my opinion (cause i thought there was no need for a timeskip, more so in a ZA story cause i want to see it all).
What happened in 16 months? They ate Weasels. They ate Weasels day and night...
Mmm mmm Weasels
Yeah I think so too. Makes sense
I think the lines are just like little skin detail like the neck muscles and cheekbones. They add those lines to make it look more comics. And also people with more lines are supposed to look like wrinkles
I probably should have rephrased that.
I'm not talking about Episodes 1-5 as a whole, I'm talking about all the events that happened in them separately. For example, all the events in Episode 2 took place in the span of a day. I'm saying that if all that crazy stuff happened in one day, how come it's not too apparent that crazy stuff happened in 16 months. If the lines on Clems face are actually scars then that's one sign that they had struggles, but nothing besides that makes it too apparent.
I'm pretty positive that they're scars.
Looking at the screenshots, you may be right- you can see that the dark lines on her cheeks aren't symmetrical; the one on her left is way below the one on the right, and there's an extra one on only one side of her chin & her neck. So in this case maybe they ARE supposed to be scars? Idk tho, I mean I still think it is just part of the art style in most character's models, but it makes me wonder why it seems different on Clem's older model. Maybe I am just over-analyzing this lol
It's possible that some of them are just supposed to be dirt marks, or maybe just scratched that haven't healed yet, but I'm pretty sure that Clem has a scar on at least her nose. The way the lines are segmented on her nose make it look a lot like a scar. The other could just be some small scratches that haven't healed yet but aren't bleeding anymore.
mmm squirrels
mmm rabbits
if Clem ever finds a direwolf with an antler in it's throat and six puppies, I wonder if she would eat them or give them to the Starks.
If you look at her S1 model, her nose has the same segmented look on the linework there. So I don't think that's supposed to be a scar in that case (unless she got it before the zombie apocalypse lol). But I agree about your other points
Yea but if you look at the picture, she has two lines on her nose. One that shows the curvature of the nose, and the larger one that looks like it could easily be a scar
Yeah actually I was about to add, it is definitely much more exaggerated in the S2 model, so it does seem more like a scar there
I'm just curious how she got them. falling down? zombies? other humans? training? Christa beating on her?
Christa better not have!!1!!! >:[[[ In all seriousness, though, I am interested to know what happened during that time skip as well, that's a LONG time to keep alive in the Walking Dead universe.
While it's possible that the lines in Clem's face could just be there simply as facial detail to show bone structure I too think they are meant to be scars. If the intent was for facial detail, a stylized look, ect then wouldn't the markings be symmetrical? The symmetry you would expect is not there. Instead we see the following marks:
-Upper right cheek
-Right corner of her chin
-Various markings on the right side of her neck
-Center of the left cheek
I think it's safe to say that those are most definitely scars. Any number of things could have happened but considering the sheer number and amount on the right side of Clem's face and neck I'd almost be willing to bet money that she got them all at the same time with the right side of her face receiving most the punishment. Possible injuries could include the following:
-Shrapnel from some sort of explosion
If this is the case it's possible some small fragments may have hit her in the face. Even a few tiny splinters of wood or glass would be enough to cause facial scarring if there was enough force behind it.
-Jumped out a window
Let's say Clem was in a building looking for supplies. Something goes wrong and all of a sudden she's got walkers between her and the exit. There's way too many to kill/avoid, she only has a few rounds in her handgun and there's a big plate glass window behind her. Clem could have easily put a few rounds into the glass to weaken it enough to jump through without getting cut to ribbons but the end result would once again see some stray shards cutting up her face and neck. A situation like this could also potentially have led to her having to learn how to suture a wound if a big enough piece cut her bad enough.
-Bad fall
Clem's out in the woods and needs to make a quick escape. Stumbling around the dark she finds a sudden drop/hill and takes a tumble. Not enough for serious injury but potentially more than enough to cut up her face if there was a decent amount of plants, gravel, trash, ect.
Overall however the scars aren't too bad. Compared to some characters in the comic Clem's are very minor.
I was thinking that it would be possible that the marks are just scrapes on her face from when she falls into the river and that they're clean because of the water, but I'm pretty sure she has them before she even falls down the hill into the river.
Yep....Clem already has the marks/scars at the camp before everything goes to hell and her late night swim.
Also let me address this next one since I know someone will try to bring it up: it's not dirt. Look at Clem's model from the prologue of season two and compare it to her model post timeskip. There's a clear difference between the dirt and what some of us are assuming to be scars.
Honestly I think the art style may not lend itself well to close up shots. That picture of Clem's season two model makes it even more obvious that those are scars to me. Once we zoom in on the face however it's less apparent.