Uh... Is Beauty...

...Our mystery voyeur?

It's been bugging me for a while now, and I've run across the crime scene (Open Arms Hotel room) over and over again. Something finally jumped out and bit me in the butt. Could Beauty be our camera woman? Think about it.

The photos we find in Lily and Crane's room are all of places that Beauty has been. She lives in close vicinity of them, and wouldn't be noticed if she was walking around and secretly taking pictures. She did hide from Bigby, in episode one, when he was walking up to the apartments. Wouldn't she cast less suspicion if she just normally passed by him? On a second note, she also worked at the hotel when the photo of crane was "supposedly" taken (We have no actual time frame, honestly, of how long Crane was seeing "Snow.")

But that's not really the part that rubs me the wrong way. While you're in the hotel room, with Beauty (After the confrontation with Beast) you begin a dialogue section with her. Now... normally, this seems nothing out of the ordinary, but you have to take a minute to digest the dialogue. Remember the storybook, on the desk? It had a lot of footnotes in it, saying to me that whoever was involved, didn't know much about Snow. I'm sure that the real Ichabod, since he's worked with her for so long, and has an "obsession," would know almost every detail about Snow White, no matter which version of the story it is.

That's not what got me thinking, though. As Bigby analyzes the book, with Beauty (Who mentions that she doesn't want to stay in the room longer than she has to), she begins asking questions about the story. Why she was in the coffin. That the whole book was about Snow White. So on and so forth. Now, I don't know if this is mentioned in the Fable's side of thing, but one thing Beauty says just shoots a big red flag up for me.

When Bigby finds the apple, she inquires about if he thinks it was poisoned. Wait, what? If Beauty didn't know anything about Snow's story, then how did she know about that one detail? On a bit of a limb, when you look at that last picture, you notice a line going through it. It's been stated that it might be an "art style," or a tear in the picture. I don't think it's a tear, as we can see the back of it. Not a rip in sight. Maybe not a tear... but what about a hair? You know, obscuring the lens? If it is, however, I have to shun TTG about the art style on it, seeing as it's covering the white border of the picture (With films, the border wouldn't show anything that the lens would have seen). Beauty's hair would be long enough for this (A lot of the female characters have shorter hair, that wouldn't obscure the lens).

So, what do you guys think? She seemed really quick to agree with Bigby, at his assumptions. She tags the killer as a "He" before she even knows who it is (That might not be important, though, as she could have assumed. But, she said she never seen "Snow" with anyone that night she might have seen her). She stays in the room and eyeballs him, even though she stated she didn't want to be in there. And she knew one detail about Snow's story, although she seemed to be oblivious to it prior to that. A slip up, on her part, maybe? If you can answer that last one, I'd greatly appreciate it. :) Happy speculating!

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  • On a side note, you'll forgive me if this sounds like rambling. Mainly because it is, and I'm exhausted. :P You guys are smart, you'll piece it together. Seems like characters we run across, in TWAU, are playing a little bit "stupid." xD

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    Also, if you listen carefully, you'll notice that she also mentions the killer decapitating his victims. Now how did she know that, hmm?

  • I actually take any information about the murders, especially verbal details, with a grain of salt. We don't know how quickly the information of Faith's death was spread around. When Bigby talked to Jack about Lily's death, he already knew about it. Even Georgie knew about Lily's death before Bigby told him, or so it's implied. Beauty could have already known by word of mouth, from someone else. That, or Faith's death information could have spread around already.

    Reusou posted: »

    Also, if you listen carefully, you'll notice that she also mentions the killer decapitating his victims. Now how did she know that, hmm?

  • Theres one line that Beauty states that always irked me: "you're a better detective than i thought you'd be."

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    Beauty ain't shit.Alt text

  • She says that when you give visual comparisons. The dress in the book the same as in the closet. The apple from the book with the apple from the floor. The glass coffin with the style of the bed.

    To the original topic. Beauty knows Snow White's story but doesn't know the mundy version. Beauty would know about the apple and the deep sleep, but wouldn't know about the glass coffin because in reality Snow wasn't in a glass coffin.

    Jbeal posted: »

    Theres one line that Beauty states that always irked me: "you're a better detective than i thought you'd be."

  • Yeah, that line felt like one of those, "Hey! You guessed right! Here, have a victory dialogue to make you feel special" things. I just think her tone of voice makes it sound weird. Also, it could imply that she thinks that Bigby is an idiot when it comes to being sheriff, and she was genuinely, or sarcastically, surprised. Who knows.

    Hey, thanks for sharing that information about the Snow's background. It cleared a few things up, but that still doesn't mean Beauty is off the list. Just her locations, alone, still have her pegged as a possible candidate for the camera person. :P

    LukaszB posted: »

    She says that when you give visual comparisons. The dress in the book the same as in the closet. The apple from the book with the apple from t

  • Excuse me, old man? I think you're mistaking your popcorn bucket for your hat. <3

    Phyre posted: »

    Beauty ain't shit.

  • Beauty was shocked when she saw the photo, but soon she could change form and that ain't good.

    Yeah, that line felt like one of those, "Hey! You guessed right! Here, have a victory dialogue to make you feel special" things. I just thi

  • If she's involved she's an amazing lier. Her reactions about the bloody bed where obiously pretty scared, i mean she couldn't even look at it, and actually agreeing with bigby's theory about the murder isn't something she should do if she is involved in it. Also, if you talk to her during the crime scene and ask her if she's hiding something her answers are pretty legit in my opinion.

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    She seemed like an emotional roller coaster to me, during that little encounter. Especially when Bigby asked her about anything she might be hiding. Concerned to angry and defensive in 1.5 seconds, flat. That's not unheard of, but usually a person in shock, or experiencing trauma, won't jump around so much, so conveniently. She seemed shocked at the bed, the first time, but seemed comfortable enough to look at it, or in it's general direction, numerous times after that, though.

    As for her being a good liar? I dunno. Has she lied? I don't think she has, technically. She might even be telling the truth about Bigby's accusation about her, too. Maybe. Technically. Who knows. I will say that she's a pretty decent actor, though. But, she exaggerates a little bit, now and again. I give her three, out of five, stars. :P

    If she's involved she's an amazing lier. Her reactions about the bloody bed where obiously pretty scared, i mean she couldn't even look at it,

  • Also how can we be sure that Beauty wasn't faking room 207 being unopenable?

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    Or, how can we be sure that the "master key" that she had wasn't switched out (Or a poor forgery), at some point. She never did say if she tried it on any other rooms, that night. Hmm. Maybe.

    I know that kind of defends her, but I'm not on a witch hunt here. I'm just trying to find the truth. :P

    Jbeal posted: »

    Also how can we be sure that Beauty wasn't faking room 207 being unopenable?

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    to be honest, i think its more likely Bigby is involved than Beauty. Im just speculating is all

    Or, how can we be sure that the "master key" that she had wasn't switched out (Or a poor forgery), at some point. She never did say if she tr

  • That's the part about games that I really dislike, that involve magic. It really could be anything. Bigby did have trouble recalling when he ordered that Chinese take out. And you see that stuff all over the place. Maybe Chinese take out is Bigby's calling card (Or the murder's). Who can say?

    Damn Wizards. Doing stuff and ruining our mysteries. :/

    Jbeal posted: »

    to be honest, i think its more likely Bigby is involved than Beauty. Im just speculating is all

  • I don't trust Beauty too much. She also might be trying to find out what happened secretly.

    Jbeal posted: »

    Also how can we be sure that Beauty wasn't faking room 207 being unopenable?

  • When does she say this I forgot

    • Someone could have told her
    Reusou posted: »

    Also, if you listen carefully, you'll notice that she also mentions the killer decapitating his victims. Now how did she know that, hmm?

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    If that's the case, then this mystery has way too many detectives in it. That makes me wonder what was so important, that Faith had "stolen," to cause this much of an uproar (Assuming the murders might be tied to said item). What, did she steal their "boss's" virginity, or something, in exchange for a little crotch rot? -__- This item better be worth a thousand times it weight in gold. xD

    LukaszB posted: »

    I don't trust Beauty too much. She also might be trying to find out what happened secretly.

  • Of course he's involved more... Hes the Detective

    Jbeal posted: »

    to be honest, i think its more likely Bigby is involved than Beauty. Im just speculating is all

  • not what i meant lol

    Of course he's involved more... Hes the Detective

  • Well i think the chinese takeout might have been Colin's food. but i get your point. For some reason, they all seem to forget each other when they claim their community is so small. something is up with that

    That's the part about games that I really dislike, that involve magic. It really could be anything. Bigby did have trouble recalling when he

  • Oh, you. Lol! Have a like! :D

    Of course he's involved more... Hes the Detective

  • The hint is secretly. Meaning Beauty won't be herself, luckily Beast is there before she actually goes on the hunt. Although it would be interesting if Beast won't stop Beauty.

    Spoilers Beauty could want to kill Crane for everything Bigby mentions. Only Beast can stop her then. End of Spoilers

    If that's the case, then this mystery has way too many detectives in it. That makes me wonder what was so important, that Faith had "stolen,"

  • I dont fully trust Beauty either. If she can lie to Beast she can definitely lie to Bigby without a problem.

    LukaszB posted: »

    I don't trust Beauty too much. She also might be trying to find out what happened secretly.

  • XD In still stand by what i said,tho.

    Excuse me, old man? I think you're mistaking your popcorn bucket for your hat.

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