The game has it's flaws sure but I'd still say it's one of the better ones being more entertaining than TFTB and way better than TWD S2 imho. The characters while not that special are seemingly more developed (at least the major ones)
Those Starks parallels are too forced:
Lord Gregor Forrester, the kind and just lord = Lord Stark.
Lord Greagor doesn't even h… moreas a personality established! He also has tow bastard children kept secret from the world. On the other hand Ned Stark has no bastards (based on R + L = J, that I belive it's true) because he really values honor thigh Gregor doesn't value that much (apparently).
Rodrik, the serious older son of the kind and just lord = Robb Stark
Don't really see any resemblance apart from being the 1st born son. Also Rodrik is a really volatile character - you can make him a rekless person guided by honor and emotion or a cunning person who think before acting.
Lady Forrester, the strong and wise mother willing to do anything for her family = Lady Stark
Lady Forrester is anything but wise - she is reckless and most of the time acts by emotion, she is also a very contradicting character.
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Xbox one gaming. Along with tiny things, I'm also referring to the saves not transferring properly when ep. 2 first came out and Gryff's face still ugly, but completely intact. I realize plenty of complaints have been said about these issues, but if we could just not experience them in the first place if people demanded proper Q&A, then that would be swell.
How come no one ever complains about the bugs and glitches that plague these games?
I'm playing on PS4, and have not experienced any… more of the glitches that people have talked about. I believe this is a issue on last gen consoles, though i could be wrong.
I see where you're coming from, but Telltale puts emphasis on "how much your choices impact the story" for all of there titles, and they still mostly have the illusion of choice. As much as people like to talk about how your choices make such a difference in Tales, you still end the game in the same way, just like GoT (although at least you can end up with different people in GoT).
As I said in my post above, I think that this game put way more emphasis on choices that presume to alter the story than other titles like D… moreead/Wolf/etc did as opposed to having choices that alter your relationships with other characters or otherwise customize your story in smaller ways (like Borderlands). I still liked the game and thought it was great, but I can see why others would expect choices to alter the story on a larger scale if those kinds of choices were what Telltale focused most heavily on for this title.
I feel sad whenever I see people posting these kind of threads. It is getting kinda redundant and people keep criticizing. Of course, you ha… moreve every right to do so, I am not saying that you are cruel and terrible for doing so.
For me, in a Telltale Game, it has never been about how my choices changes the story. It has always been how I am using my choices to tell the story I want. Let's say in episode 1, why did I made Ethan cut the fingers of the thief? Because I want the story to be about Ethan shredding his innocence and inner child within him in order to become the lord that his house needs. In episode 2, I made Rodrik return Talia's hug. Why did I do it? Because I want to establish that Rodrik isn't just serious like he was talked about in episode 1. I want him also to be kind to his family and because he also missed Talia. In episode 4, why did I made Asher stop Beskha from killing her former master? Because I want to show that Asher… [view original content]
I don't understand why people are getting so upset over the fact that "choices don't matter". Literally every other Telltale game is the sam… moree, so what do you expect. Even with choices not mattering, I still really enjoyed GoT (which is my favourite game that Telltales made thus far).
The only thing that made me take a bit hit on this series was the whole traitor thing. It should have been a lot more and the fact that it w… moreasn't made everything else seem "bleh"
I have to say though that episode five did get me excited to see what happens in season two. I really like how if you choose either asher or rodrick they go about different strategies initially. The ending sequence was well done but at the same time showing two cut scenes at the end kinda made it a little drawn out.
Never the less I can honestly say I enjoyed the series overall. The sad part is that season two determines if season one was either good or truly bad. They set themselves up for failure or a big win....
I don't think it's mainly decisions as much as altering the look and feel of the journey that some folks say Tales did better in that regard. For me, I don't think GoT really altered the feel of its story until episode 6.
I disagree about the Marry Morgryn choice, we don't really know how impactful it is and it really depends on whether or not Telltale follow through it or not in S2, chances are, they probably won't.
Well, not the only one, I'm sure :P
But I disagree. I can't say I left Borderlands in too high regard, after playing it with a Rhys who w… moreas 100% pro-Jack. He trusted him in Episode 2, allied with him in Episode 3, and then ruled Hyperion in Episode 4. And then, in the blink of an eye, they turned huge enemies for no logical reason other than plot. I don't recall Game of Thrones ever being that restrictive.
Plus, as I said in my original post, I'm struggling to think of any Borderlands decision that had even half the impact the Asher / Rodrik choice did in GoT, or the Duncan / Royland choice, or the Marry Morgryn or not choice and so forth. The only big (seemingly impactful) decision in Borderlands, whether to rule Hyperion or not, gets retconned five minutes into Episode 5 anyway, so...
Yeah, Borderlands is still great, don't get me wrong and I really like(d) it. But objectively speaking, I find it hard to understand how people come to the conclusion decisions matter more in it than Game of Thrones...
well said! both Houses are my absolute favourite in the GoT universe, sure they have somewhat similar situations but theyre ENTIRELY different from each other. Especially different personalities!
Those Starks parallels are too forced:
Lord Gregor Forrester, the kind and just lord = Lord Stark.
Lord Greagor doesn't even h… moreas a personality established! He also has tow bastard children kept secret from the world. On the other hand Ned Stark has no bastards (based on R + L = J, that I belive it's true) because he really values honor thigh Gregor doesn't value that much (apparently).
Rodrik, the serious older son of the kind and just lord = Robb Stark
Don't really see any resemblance apart from being the 1st born son. Also Rodrik is a really volatile character - you can make him a rekless person guided by honor and emotion or a cunning person who think before acting.
Lady Forrester, the strong and wise mother willing to do anything for her family = Lady Stark
Lady Forrester is anything but wise - she is reckless and most of the time acts by emotion, she is also a very contradicting character.
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I feel sad whenever I see people posting these kind of threads. It is getting kinda redundant and people keep criticizing. Of course, you ha… moreve every right to do so, I am not saying that you are cruel and terrible for doing so.
For me, in a Telltale Game, it has never been about how my choices changes the story. It has always been how I am using my choices to tell the story I want. Let's say in episode 1, why did I made Ethan cut the fingers of the thief? Because I want the story to be about Ethan shredding his innocence and inner child within him in order to become the lord that his house needs. In episode 2, I made Rodrik return Talia's hug. Why did I do it? Because I want to establish that Rodrik isn't just serious like he was talked about in episode 1. I want him also to be kind to his family and because he also missed Talia. In episode 4, why did I made Asher stop Beskha from killing her former master? Because I want to show that Asher… [view original content]
It's just become a popular thing to say by people who have no idea how much time has to go into game development as it is, without seven billion completely different plotlines, who can't read (the game is tailored by how you play) and who just like to go with the flow, like with Mass Effect 3 ending.
Yet they praise games like Until Dawn and Life is Strange, which is really hypocritical. Both good games, but you can't honestly tell me that you think that the choices mattered more than in any recent Telltale game (except maybe TWD Season 2), especially Tales and GoT.
Which brother survives - you get two different storylines
Which Sentinel - Along the series you get different scenes with Royland or Dunc… morean and you get a different traitor
Kill the traitor or Spare him - Determines who ends up with Rodrik/Asher
Call off the plan - Gets you Gwyn in the end of the series
Asking for Margaery's help - You get an alternate scene (you also can get a key/seal - the seal can be used in episode 2, and both of the objects give you a bit more of Margaery's dialogue in the final episode)
Poison or Ambush Ludd/Follow Gryff or Ludd - Determines Gryff and Ludd's fate
Elaena interactions along the series - You get an alternate scene in episode 5 with Elaena in your bed it also affects imensly how Elaena behaves along the series.
Letting Elaena stay at Ironrath - Determines if Elaena is with the Whitehills (probably being married to Gryff (If he is alive)) or with her cousins at the Riverlands safe and so… [view original content]
Hmm, I think before episode 6, I probably would have agreed with it being the worst Telltale-episodic series, but episode 6 removed a lot of my complaints, the impact of choices being one of them.
Though it still has it's problems, plotholes, some silly writing, it's still pretty good, and I'll check out season 2, when it comes.
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The game has it's flaws sure but I'd still say it's one of the better ones being more entertaining than TFTB and way better than TWD S2 imho. The characters while not that special are seemingly more developed (at least the major ones)
I would not say worst,I would say least greatest
Don't you mean Littlefinger 2.0? :')
Ehh he's kinda like a mix of both. A little Roose Bolton mixed in there too.
Well, both: having a bride locked up and being a smartass when it comes to politics and manipulation.
Xbox one gaming. Along with tiny things, I'm also referring to the saves not transferring properly when ep. 2 first came out and Gryff's face still ugly, but completely intact. I realize plenty of complaints have been said about these issues, but if we could just not experience them in the first place if people demanded proper Q&A, then that would be swell.
Morgryn isn't half as smart as either of them imho
Yeah, he's a bit of a dumb dumb.
I see where you're coming from, but Telltale puts emphasis on "how much your choices impact the story" for all of there titles, and they still mostly have the illusion of choice. As much as people like to talk about how your choices make such a difference in Tales, you still end the game in the same way, just like GoT (although at least you can end up with different people in GoT).
Well said.
The choices mattered to me.
I didnt really like the traitor thing either only because the reasons didnt seem strong enough for the kind of destruction it caused.
I don't think it's mainly decisions as much as altering the look and feel of the journey that some folks say Tales did better in that regard. For me, I don't think GoT really altered the feel of its story until episode 6.
I disagree about the Marry Morgryn choice, we don't really know how impactful it is and it really depends on whether or not Telltale follow through it or not in S2, chances are, they probably won't.
well said! both Houses are my absolute favourite in the GoT universe, sure they have somewhat similar situations but theyre ENTIRELY different from each other. Especially different personalities!
Honestly, after reading your biggest complaint, I'm not even sure if you've played any TTG.
Holy crap well said.
It's just become a popular thing to say by people who have no idea how much time has to go into game development as it is, without seven billion completely different plotlines, who can't read (the game is tailored by how you play) and who just like to go with the flow, like with Mass Effect 3 ending.
Yet they praise games like Until Dawn and Life is Strange, which is really hypocritical. Both good games, but you can't honestly tell me that you think that the choices mattered more than in any recent Telltale game (except maybe TWD Season 2), especially Tales and GoT.
Wait is Minecraft: Story Mode no longer the worst game?
I thought they had that honor solidified.
LOL. You know what's funny? You don't even have to mention that you love TTG titles. It sounds as if you have to justify what you say.
Hmm, I think before episode 6, I probably would have agreed with it being the worst Telltale-episodic series, but episode 6 removed a lot of my complaints, the impact of choices being one of them.
Though it still has it's problems, plotholes, some silly writing, it's still pretty good, and I'll check out season 2, when it comes.
Roose and LF actually tried to make an effort while in the presence of Sansa where Morgryn was a complete idiot about it.
Morgryn: smashes Mira's head against a wall Get out of my fucking cart!
Morgryn (a day later): Marry me and give up all your rights to your name and castle (even though Mira can't inherit Ironrath being a woman)
Well that's just your opinion.