Why Telltale the walking dead is better than AMC the walking dead
Hey guys, I am a big fan of the video series, so I decided to make this video to show why this series is better than the TV series. Check it out if you want to.
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I agree
I disagree but he's entitled to his opinion. Kind of ridiculous to compare 10 parts of a game to six seasons of a tv show.
But it stands on its feet better than six seasons of the tv show. At least Season 1 does.
Again, matter of opinion.
Yes. Well there's mine.
Haven't watched the vid as yet, but i'll give you some reasons. Better main character (Lee much more interesting than Rick), Mostly better main supporting cast (Kenny, Lilly, Christa and The Stranger more interesting than the likes of unconvincing badass Carol, generic badasses that are completely starved of any personality or charisma Daryl and Michonne, no mark characters like Glenn and Maggie). Better all round story. WD the show is fast moving, popcorn entertainment that is entertaining enough. The game is a lot more than that.
The show is a lot more than popcorn entertainment. I feel like people have such a shallow, dismissive view of it when it is way more than about people being chased by zombies. It has always strived to be more and I believe that is the reason its still popular after six season.
Youre view on the characters, I dont necessarily agree but, as for being a better story, its the same story. Surviving a zombie apocalypse. The game, comics and show arent doing anything essentially different from each other.
Personally like the game more because we can make choices and the language is more mature, I hate how the show is so anti F word. You can show people being ripped in half by zombies but you can't say fuck?
Thats just tv. I think theyve earned the right to use one F-bomb per season like BB used to do, and then just bleep it out. Im not sure why they dont, but its a minor thing. They use almost every other swear word I can think of.
In your opinion how effective do you think the choices are?
In my opinion, TV series is better than the game, but as someone said before, it is matter of opinion.
The tv series has more episodes, but I feel the game series has achieved a lot in just 10 episodes. Lee became a much loved character in only five episodes and his death was more tragic than anything we seen in the tv series. The tv series have pulled off more cinematic like moments, but the game series has more heart.
To me the game is just more interesting, The games characters are more interesting than AMC WD's characters. It may be because I have always never really like tv that much and i have always favored video games, but I never really got into AMC Walking Dead.
I'm starting to believe that the majority of folks on the walking dead game forums will be more biased toward the game over the walking dead show and comic anyhow. Just as many of those who love the show hardly pay the game any mind. And those who prefer the comic might think both the show and game leave much to be desired. Essentially I'm saying, whichever forum that is for a particular walking dead version the commentors usually are biased in favor of that medium. With me I enjoy the show and game equally but the comics are second because I never was a big comic reader but still check them out when I do..
I feel the same way.
You got a great point buddy and I think you are very right.
Overall I think the show is better. I'll admit that the game is better at character building (Beth was introduced in Season 2, and yet didn't amount to shit until Season 5), but than they negate all of that by killing off the whole cast by the end of the season.... and I'm left wondering why I should've gave damn in the first place.
As someone who follows game, show, and comic, I feel like the pacing's not so great in the show and there's a disconnect, at times, between the Atlanta crew and Abraham's folks, and uneven screentime, so much so that I know more than a few people who forgot Rosita existed on the show, for example. I guess the underdevelopment didn't feel as painfully obvious in the game, maybe because a lot of the cabin crew were folks we didn't know for long anyway? Iunno. The TV show, overall, strikes me more as an action move at times (eg. Daryl stuffing a grenade into a tank) than focusing on morality struggles, and it suffers from long, silent moments that don't always communicate much and feel wasted especially when you've got people you're dying to know more about and they just lineface and walk/drive even when there's not necessarily a reason for silence.
Comic's my favourite medium, though. I like that you'll have pages of people talking to each other, people showing weakness and crying (my god does everyone show a lot of vulnerability in the comics)... it just feels more human to me and it holds my interest without needing to resort to lots of walker kills. I care about the people a lot. And I feel like the comic takes a stance that isn't Rick Is Pretty Much Always Right So You Better Listen Because He Suffered More Than You or Ruthless Is The Only Right Approach To Life Ever, which is refreshing especially when even the middle-to-end of S2 seemed to push the latter a lot.
edit: goddamn grammar
Everything you have mentioned is in the video, great minds think alike lol.
I really disagree with Lee's death being more tragic than anything on the show. It was a heart ringer but there were plenty of heart ringers on the show too. Of course youre going to feel close to Lee since you were playing as him and making decisions as him.
The show has a lot of characters and they arent swiftly killed off in one episode, so it can be difficult to give all of them enough screentime, and try to stay true to the source material. I give this show so much credit for what its able to accomplish and for finding ways to be creative and experiment a bit. They have moments of true beauty on the show. Yet, they have to appeal to a huge audience, many of which complain if the action slows down that its getting boring, and still try to develop the characters. I cant even imagine how difficult it is. They do focus on morality struggles all the time. Rick Grimes himself is a morality struggle. They just dont sit down for an hour and hash it out. The tv audience just wont allow for it.
I do notice that and it kind of bothers me sometimes because I like all three of the mediums and enjoy them in different ways. I dont know why people feel like they have to bash one to appreciate the other. You can have your preferences, of course, but they are all good at what they do with expand the universe.
I prefer the show but both are great.
becus its gud
I'll say they're both good.
At least from what I've seen personally, most comic fans seem to hold the game to almost the same level as the comics. The most I've seen is indifference, but I've rarely seen anyone that's a fan of the comic say anything bad about the game.
For me personally, the show's never been able to reach the same caliber as the game and comic have. That's not to say I don't like it, though. It's like the comic and game are gold medalists, and the show is silver; at the end of the day, the only real difference is that the show's pedestal is a few inches lower than the rest. I've just found myself a lot more immersed in the world that the game and comic built, and more attached and involved with the cast of characters of the comics and the game. And for the sake of perspective, that's coming from someone that was originally introduced to the franchise through the TV show.
I tried to watch the show but I couldn't bring myself to care about it.
Never read the comics, although I want to.
The game is amazing.
Game wins.
Well yeah I know that a lot of people won't agree with my views on the characters, but this is how I feel when I watch the show. 6 seasons in and some of the main characters haven't been developed enough for me. Someone said Beth amounted to shit for 5 seasons. I look at characters like Daryl, Maggie, Carl and they too have amounted to little to nothing for me. The silent badass thing that Daryl does was pretty cool in like season 1/2. It isn't enough anymore. Carl had the potential to be a better character than Clementine. 6 seasons in he has amounted to fuck all (except being made a bit darker, as expected). It's like the writers expect us to be really impressed that Glenn and Maggie are in a relationship and love each other... nah that's not enough for either character, especially 6 seasons in.
I personally watch the show because it is fast moving, about zombies, has a high budget and is somewhat entertaining. There is only a handful of times where I feel that the show is on par with the game and it's not very often.
So true about the character building.
That is fine. I respect your opinion.
The medium sets limitations - true enough. I guess I don't see it much (the struggle) in Rick these days, Like, throughout the seasons he went from idealistic to a dictator to a leader open to democracy e.t.c. e.t.c. but it feels like, where he is in the show right now, it's a little stagnant the way it's set on 'the others can die; my people are the most important, I'll shoot someone and ask questions later'. I was much more interested in Deanna.
God, I miss s1 of the show, though... it struck this excellent balance between action and gut-punches, imo. Maybe the show's been going on 'too long?' Like, it could benefit, maybe, from more of a timeskip these days rather than following the group pretty steadily.
The thing is this: this past season and a half, they have been really trying to stick to the comic storyline. The first couple of seasons they strayed away and got a lot of flack for it. The current showrunner is, from what I hear, a big fan of the comics, and the show is pretty much going to be on a straight course for awhile, so I doubt a time skip is coming anytime soon.
Funny, when you say the show is going on too long, I was catching up on it this past weekend and thinking there was still a lot of story to tell if theyre following the comics. We know they are renewed for a seventh season. Just like the comic, they could go telling this story for a long time.
I did like Deanna, I thought she was a great character, which is why I disagree so strongly when people claim the show doesnt have any good characters, or not up to par with the game.
I just keep thinking about how s2 on the farm and the whole Governor arc really seemed to drag, but, based on what you said, hopefully it'll get better as it follows said straight course (I can't say I'm looking forward to Negan, but I know he's something of a fan favourite). Really wish Deanna had stuck around longer, or that we saw folks like, say, Tara or Eugene interact more with Michonne or Daryl or Rick (or anyone)to really sell me on the whole 'family' bit. :'I A bit miffed about that Certain Cliffhanger this season where they drew out the question of 'what happened to Glenn' long enough that the situation completely lost tension and punch for me, but again, just my opinion. Guess TV is not my flavour of TWD, at least, where it is right now, but I have enough hope that I keep watching. It gets the gears in my mind turning, at the very least.
Also, more jumbled thoughts: regarding characters, it makes me think of what someone said about Beth, she was around since s2 but didn't get much more development until around s4, s5. Does that mean she's a bad character? No, not at all. It just feels more like the writers kinda dropped the ball and could've fleshed her out more and sooner for someone who stuck around that long. Kind of like T-Dog, as another example... barely got a feel for him. I was surprised at how built up Tyreese was in the comic but he felt kind of wasted in the show, imo. Again, solid characters, just not given their chance to shine. I can't speak with any authority but I'm guessing that maaaaybe that lack of 'connection' between character and audience is why folks tend to say that the show doesn't have good characters.
Thanks for the chill response!
No problem. I dont mind if people disagree with me, as long as we can be respectful to each other.
Eta: I cant argue whether people feel connected to a character or not. Thats a personal thing. Naturally youre not going to like all of them but I take real issue with people claiming that there are no good characters. There are enough characters that there has to be some that people identify with or can relate to even if they dont like them. I think they are doing their best to try to develop the characters but because of the limits of tv, they cant fully flesh out everyone in every episode, and when they do try people complain that the show is boring, too much talking, where are the zombies. Its lose/lose.
But when people compare it to the game, I find it kind of unfair because its a totally different experience from watching characters act and from making the choices for them. Naturally youre going to feel more connected to a character that your controlling, kind of like the difference between reading a book and being inside a characters thoughts and having to infer what a character on tv is thinking from their actions. No show is perfect, but I give the showrunner, crew and actors a lot of respect for the efforts they make to be more than just " a zombie show", especially since they dont get much recognition for it, apart from ratings I guess.
I can barely stand the tv show at certain times, when there is nothing happening but just the "emotional" parts, or where they just sit around an talk, I almost quit the show whenever they were at the prison because HOLY CRAP was that boring, with negan coming it will get a little more easier to watch, but at those parts where they talk slowly an make a quick talk go on forever shows that the actual TWD game can have both action an emotional parts without it being boring since they even it out an make interesting discussion
I equally love the game and the show. I think the deaths on the tv show are just as emotional as on the game. I balled my eyes out when Dale died in the show because it came as a surprise and everyone loved Dale except Shane lol and it was and still is for me the saddest character death on the show to date. I think the writing on the show is fantastic and although Season 6 has been slow so far, im convinced it will pick up in the second half.
It makes me sad to see people complaining about the show being boring whenever they try to talk to each other.
I just caught up with the first half of season six (granted I am behind on a lot of my favorite shows, mostly because I just fall into bed after work, lol,) but I was pretty riveted. I feel like theyre giving a good feel of the Alexandria storyline from the comics, setting that whole storyline up. The cliffhanger made me very excited for the second half of the season. They do of course have their episode where they just focus on telling a character's story but personally I love those. Ive always been more of a character than action fan, just getting to know and understand these people that were spending all these hours with.
The Morgan episode, for instance, might be one of my favorites of the season. We learned so much about how he became who he is now and it was just georgeous to look at with the scenery. That actor who played Eastman was great too.
I loved Dale but I think the worst death for me so far was poor Noah. I still cant rewatch that scene.
Yeah, I think it was early season 4 when they were all in the prison and good lord those were some of the most boringest episodes i've ever watched. I think I might have even fast fowarded some of that nonsense.