Thoughts on the Mobjack massacre?
What do you think really happened in the Mobjack ferry?
Sam claims that Randall and other Monroe residents killed the ferry inhabitants and brought their supplies to the colony, and that Greg and her heard the screams and gunshots. She also states that "her family" traded with them sometimes.
On the other hand, Norma says that her brother and the others did in fact execute the people in the ferry, but that they were scavengers who had killed the previous residents. This would imply that Sam and Greg were trading with these murderers.
I would really like to hear your thoughts on this topic.
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Well they were bound with the same kind of plastic strap - the 'ones police use'...So I think they at least have something to do with it.
Probably a mix of the two, or a third party. I REALLY hope they dont go the route of making one group ridiculously evil
I think they've done a pretty good job so far at avoiding that, though. That makes me believe that it'll continue throughout the series.
I mean some children were on the ferry murdered so I dont really know. Either way its bad,
Mobjack massacre and river massacre from TWD season 2. Both cases are connected.
There was a massacre on the Motor Inn in "Long Road Ahead", when the group killed at least a dozen bandits. There also was a massacre back at Howe's Hardware, when the group lured a walker herd and all residents of the store were devoured.
That doesn't mean that they're rehashing the story.
Yes, they are connected. Both cases are unexplained. And I bet it'll stay this way.
Except… the Mobjack massacre was talked about several times during "In Too Deep" and will likely be explained at some point, since it's one of the main plot points of the storyline. The river massacre was just something bad that Pete and Nick stumbled upon when going finishing.
I think we both agree that it needs to be resolved, though.
The zip-ties. They do confirm that people from the Monroe Colony were the ones responible for the killing, although we don't know what drove them to do it. Also, remember that not all corpses had zip-ties on their wrists.
The only connection is that they are almost identical plot moves. Massacre, people shot in the heads, other people who ran away from their group, hunting squad consisting of four members with assault rifles who brought them back. They are pretty much the same games aren't they? (Season 2 and Michonne)
I get the feeling sam and her brother are the bad guys in this, its just feels so one sided in its layout that we are being set up for a massive plot twist.
Plot Twist: The group Michonne is in is actually involved.
Its really confusing really, so its hard to tell.
I ended up with the same questions. Well, after I concluded I should really stop throwing zip-ties into the garbage because they seem pretty useful...
... Which does make we wonder, who the heck when an zombie apocalypse starts goes 'Dude, we totally need to bring a crap load of zip-ties, that shit's gonna be useful!'
But, back on topic: because apparently zip-ties are awesome (and are a top 10 necessity during a zombie apocalypse) there is always the possibility that more groups may be using them for executions. As for those who weren't wearing zip-ties I guess they don't work as well on walkers?
The corpses without zip-ties could possibly have been part of the group from Monroe Colony. Perhaps they stood up and protected the other people before being rifled to death.
Norma already said before that Sam is a very convincing liar, so it would be pretty easy to believe that she made that story up to make Norma's group seem like the worst. I believe that while Norma's group did the executions, Sam's friends were the ones to open fire first and then Randall exacted revenged. The whole 'they killed those people for the fun of it' story Sam told is absolute bullshit, and her group open fired on them, and she escaped with her brother.
As I said on another comment, I think the corpses without zip-ties are victims of a firefight that broke in between both groups.
And zip-ties are great! I'll leave an infographic here in case any of you get into a hostage situation.
I am thinking the corpses without zip-ties could've been victims from both group when a firefight broke inside the Mobjack ferry.
Note to self: also pack print of above image when zombie apocalypse commences. Ty.
Meanwhile! I really don't know what happened, but I'm glad we're focusing on the important stuff.
Yeah, something seems to be a bit wrong with her side of events. Going by how they've treated them so far, I think there's a lot more going on than Sam has been saying.
I like this theory a lot, but I'm doubtful regarding this sentence. As we see in the preview for "Give No Shelter", Michonne carries Sam to an unknown community, which might be where she lives. This would validate her line "we traded with them sometimes", and also explain why she holds a grudge against the Monroe people, as they did in fact kill their trading partners a.k.a. the scavengers. I think what Sam is not telling us is that the scavengers opened fire first, as you said.
Sam's definitely hiding the truth. I doubt Norma's group would just execute those people for no reason.
As you said, it might be where she lives, but we don't know that for a fact. It could just be a building Michonne saw and thought she'd check out to see if there was supplies. Until we know that it's her home, I'm going to assume it's not.
Okay, I'm going to assume it is. But I agree, there's not enough evidence to support either claim.
I'll be thinking about this small discussion when Michonne enters that building.
Thank you for your time, sir/madam.
Yeah I like that theory better.
Sam didn't look like a very good lier to me, not the way she was acting during the whole episode. I think she told the truth but there's probably some things she's avoided talking about..
uh, no
Norma said herself that the line Sam used on Michonne has been used on many others, and she also said that Sam is a great liar.
i think that there is a possibility that the zip ties are sort of a red herring, they are incredibly common, so it may just be something to make us suspicious of the boat town, and that maybe there is a different group of pirates stealing from traders.
arrgh! but it be a twisted and sorry tale to be sure
... Do not speak ill of the zip-ties. Zip-tie Overlord -will- find you.
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i saw a video of a guy trying that breaking the zip tie technique, and he just ended up punching himself in the balls, so, you know, do it correctly
How do we know norma ain't lying
Norma seems like the type to be truthful to her people if they are truthful to her. I doubt she lied when she said that.
Idk the Gov started out nice too
When I first saw The Governor, I thought he was creepy and was probably a bad dude, which he turned out to be. Norma on the other hand, seemed to be painted in a light where she seemed like a straight, down-to-Earth kind of person.
I'm a bit confused about who did what to be honest...but I can't help but trust Sam for some reason!
My name's also Sam so might have something to do with that...
She looked reasonable and honest to me, too. I really hope they don't ruin her by making her some ruthless villain, though.
No, I think that Telltale will most likely mess her up and have her try to kill Michonne in the final episode. I mean, this is Telltale, after all.
Read this, then! I did guess Sam's name (kind of), and I did guess that Greg would have a one-syllable nickname.