I think Randall would win; Lee has a lot of determination, but that can only get you so far. Randall on the other hand is unhinged and even put up a hard fight against Michonne, who I would believe is way more competent in fighting and holding their own than Lee would be.
If we're real here, Randall would beat Lee's ass so bad. The dude held himself against three people fairly well, one of which was Michonne w… moreho we all know to be extremely strong. Pete, despite not fighting humans often, is probably very strong too, since he's always working on a ship and has to survive like everyone else. Paige is not a good fighter, but she's still one more person to take on.
If Randall can hold himself against two very strong people and an additional person this well, he'd have a field day with Lee.
Randall would fuck Lee up in a bad way. Lee was pretty green for most of his post-apocalyptic life, only getting truly hard core when he was… more bitten. Randall is an absolute tank, and laughed throughout most of his torture. Lee on the other hand can complain about a minor leg injury. I hate to say it but Randall could kill anyone from the motor inn or cabin group, even in their prime.
Lee. I'm surprised how easily everyone forgot the fact that lee is a badass! he was kinda weak in the beginning and had problems killing walkers, but he improved with time, just look at glenn or carol, they were weak in the beginning too, but now, they've become great survivors, fighters! lee was still in development, he died prematurely, i mean.... he killed a man before the apocalypse, he got his arm cut off, he was infected, weakened and he still fought and made his way through a herd of walkers with only one arm and a knife and killed the stranger, he beat up molly to the ground, he beat up andy st john, he became fearless, braver and stronger, imagine if he wouldn't have died, he had a great potential to become a better survivor and a better fighter (what a waste!) randall is strong, but i'm not gonna give him any credit for holding against pete and paige, those two are obviously weak, they are not fighters like michonne, they were taken down easily. At the end.... lee only had one ultimate weakness (clementine) and that weakness became his doom
A pretty close fight I'd say actually, I WANT to say Lee, but I do see why everyone is saying Randall also. Randall is just flat-out sadistic, he loves hurting people while Lee was a good man (well in my playthoughs anyway) with a heart of gold who'd do anything to protect those close to him. But, I think if Lee actually DID go all-out and try and kill him it would actually be a close one
I don't know really, the more I think about it the more I'm not too sure.
Randall is strong, but it's durability that is his strength. Lee on the other hand, is both strong and durable + Depending on the situation, when Lee is motivated by something, his a hard man to beat. I mean, look at what he did to get to Clementine. I'd give Lee the edge over Randall.
I'm surprised how easily everyone forgot the fact that lee is a badass!
Lee as a playable character, sure. Lee as a non-playable character is an incapable fighter against Randall.
i'm not gonna give him any credit for holding against pete and paige, those two are obviously weak, they are not fighters like michonne, they were taken down easily
Keep in mind that Michonne only defeats Randall with the help of Paige and determinantly Pete. He can kill Michonne numerous times during either fight.
that weakness became [Lee's] doom
Not observing the what was next to the trash can from afar became his doom. Clementine going with the Stranger was just a well-placed justification for the player to accept him getting bitten.
Lee. I'm surprised how easily everyone forgot the fact that lee is a badass! he was kinda weak in the beginning and had problems killing wal… morekers, but he improved with time, just look at glenn or carol, they were weak in the beginning too, but now, they've become great survivors, fighters! lee was still in development, he died prematurely, i mean.... he killed a man before the apocalypse, he got his arm cut off, he was infected, weakened and he still fought and made his way through a herd of walkers with only one arm and a knife and killed the stranger, he beat up molly to the ground, he beat up andy st john, he became fearless, braver and stronger, imagine if he wouldn't have died, he had a great potential to become a better survivor and a better fighter (what a waste!) randall is strong, but i'm not gonna give him any credit for holding against pete and paige, those two are obviously weak, they are not fighters like michonne, they were taken… [view original content]
"Lee as a non-playable character is an incapable" what kind of excuse is that? doesnt make sense, its stupid if you ask me. And about michonne, she is a badass, yes, but please!!! give me f#ckin break! she is no soo great! both michonne and abraham together got their asses kicked by paul monroe, so easily!!! she is not perfect.
I'm surprised how easily everyone forgot the fact that lee is a badass!
Lee as a playable character, sure. Lee as a non-playable cha… moreracter is an incapable fighter against Randall.
i'm not gonna give him any credit for holding against pete and paige, those two are obviously weak, they are not fighters like michonne, they were taken down easily
Keep in mind that Michonne only defeats Randall with the help of Paige and determinantly Pete. He can kill Michonne numerous times during either fight.
that weakness became [Lee's] doom
Not observing the what was next to the trash can from afar became his doom. Clementine going with the Stranger was just a well-placed justification for the player to accept him getting bitten.
both michonne and abraham together got their asses kicked by paul monroe, so easily!!!
Yeah, once.
She got taken out once. By the most proficient hand-to-hand fighter in the entire series. How about every other fight she's come out on top of? Or are you just not gonna count those?
"Lee as a non-playable character is an incapable" what kind of excuse is that? doesnt make sense, its stupid if you ask me. And about michon… morene, she is a badass, yes, but please!!! give me f#ckin break! she is no soo great! both michonne and abraham together got their asses kicked by paul monroe, so easily!!! she is not perfect.
Award of the year for taking a comment out of context goes to @Alex_L_P! You know full well that you did so twice, in reply to me. I'd rather have you say that it was unconsciously, to be honest.
I said that Lee, as a non-playable character, is an incapable fighter against Randall.
You also said that Pete and Paige "are not fighters like Michonne," and despite this, you ask people to "give [you] a fucking break" from hearing about her badassery, and proceed to explain that she "is not so great."
"Lee as a non-playable character is an incapable" what kind of excuse is that? doesnt make sense, its stupid if you ask me. And about michon… morene, she is a badass, yes, but please!!! give me f#ckin break! she is no soo great! both michonne and abraham together got their asses kicked by paul monroe, so easily!!! she is not perfect.
Award of the year for taking a comment out of context goes to @Alex_L_P! You know full well that you did so twice, in reply to me. I'd rathe… morer have you say that it was unconsciously, to be honest.
I said that Lee, as a non-playable character, is an incapable fighter against Randall.
You also said that Pete and Paige "are not fighters like Michonne," and despite this, you ask people to "give [you] a fucking break" from hearing about her badassery, and proceed to explain that she "is not so great."
I think any of those fights could go in Randall's favor.Mike is overpowered by Kenny and doesn't seem like a fighter. Molly is fast but Randall would do damage if he got his hands on her. Carver is tough but older and probably not as fast. The bandits were only tough because of their numbers and weapons. Andy is tough as hell I'll give him that.
I'm just considering Randall's fighting skills, violent nature, and the fact that's he has survived for so long.
i think you are over hyping a character that after this Mini Series will have no future relevance to this story.
Lee took an arm cut off,… more and can get shot by the Stranger. He then punches the Stranger, headbutts him and can choke him out.
Lee can also take on Molly and Andy St. John.
And i'm sorry but Randall would never beat:
* Molly
* Carver
* Mike
* Some of the Save Lots Bandits as they were shown worse than Randall, raping a little girl and killing their own men out of rage
* Andy, he can take two gun shots even one to the head, take a brutal beating by Lee or beat Lee, and still get up.
I think any of those fights could go in Randall's favor.Mike is overpowered by Kenny and doesn't seem like a fighter. Molly is fast but Rand… moreall would do damage if he got his hands on her. Carver is tough but older and probably not as fast. The bandits were only tough because of their numbers and weapons. Andy is tough as hell I'll give him that.
I'm just considering Randall's fighting skills, violent nature, and the fact that's he has survived for so long.
It would be a hard one that's for sure but Randall has shown to be more than a match for Michonne. And her and Molly are on the same level as far as skill
Carver
I don't know what makes you say this. Carver has no feats and hasn't fought fairly at all. He's pretty cowardly who only gets violent when the odds are in his own favor. Randall is many things but he doesn't seem to have a problem with fighting fair even when he's outnumbered
Mike
Sure he's strong but I doubt he's much of a fighter. He doesn't try to fight back when Kenny gets in his face and he doesn't seem to like confrontation. Also he goes down in one shot in the Shoot Mike option
Some of The Save Lots Bandits
Brutality and how evil you are doesn't improve your skill on fighting. Their lust for blood might be more but they were strung put meth heads who's strength were numbers
Andy
Yeah I'll give you this one it would be a slobber knocker. But Randall isn't shy to take damage. He gets his head smashed multiple times and his hands crushed. That would concuss or even kill a normal man.
i think you are over hyping a character that after this Mini Series will have no future relevance to this story.
Lee took an arm cut off,… more and can get shot by the Stranger. He then punches the Stranger, headbutts him and can choke him out.
Lee can also take on Molly and Andy St. John.
And i'm sorry but Randall would never beat:
* Molly
* Carver
* Mike
* Some of the Save Lots Bandits as they were shown worse than Randall, raping a little girl and killing their own men out of rage
* Andy, he can take two gun shots even one to the head, take a brutal beating by Lee or beat Lee, and still get up.
If Randall were to suppose a threat to Clementine's security, I think that Lee would beat Randall badly, but if Clementine wasn't present, I don't think that Lee would have a chance.
In my opinion is the Clementine factor what's important here.
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Randall.
I think Randall would win; Lee has a lot of determination, but that can only get you so far. Randall on the other hand is unhinged and even put up a hard fight against Michonne, who I would believe is way more competent in fighting and holding their own than Lee would be.
Lee can take a gunshot wound (determinant), a arm cut off, and still beat the Stranger's ass.
i think you are over hyping a character that after this Mini Series will have no future relevance to this story.
Lee took an arm cut off, and can get shot by the Stranger. He then punches the Stranger, headbutts him and can choke him out.
Lee can also take on Molly and Andy St. John.
And i'm sorry but Randall would never beat:
Molly
Carver
Mike
Some of the Save Lots Bandits as they were shown worse than Randall, raping a little girl and killing their own men out of rage
Andy, he can take two gun shots even one to the head, take a brutal beating by Lee or beat Lee, and still get up.
Lee. I'm surprised how easily everyone forgot the fact that lee is a badass! he was kinda weak in the beginning and had problems killing walkers, but he improved with time, just look at glenn or carol, they were weak in the beginning too, but now, they've become great survivors, fighters! lee was still in development, he died prematurely, i mean.... he killed a man before the apocalypse, he got his arm cut off, he was infected, weakened and he still fought and made his way through a herd of walkers with only one arm and a knife and killed the stranger, he beat up molly to the ground, he beat up andy st john, he became fearless, braver and stronger, imagine if he wouldn't have died, he had a great potential to become a better survivor and a better fighter (what a waste!) randall is strong, but i'm not gonna give him any credit for holding against pete and paige, those two are obviously weak, they are not fighters like michonne, they were taken down easily. At the end.... lee only had one ultimate weakness (clementine) and that weakness became his doom
A pretty close fight I'd say actually, I WANT to say Lee, but I do see why everyone is saying Randall also. Randall is just flat-out sadistic, he loves hurting people while Lee was a good man (well in my playthoughs anyway) with a heart of gold who'd do anything to protect those close to him. But, I think if Lee actually DID go all-out and try and kill him it would actually be a close one
I don't know really, the more I think about it the more I'm not too sure.
I actually find it so hilarious that whenever there's a new villain in the franchise, people tend to put them up against Lee and ask who'll win lmao.
Randall is strong, but it's durability that is his strength. Lee on the other hand, is both strong and durable + Depending on the situation, when Lee is motivated by something, his a hard man to beat. I mean, look at what he did to get to Clementine. I'd give Lee the edge over Randall.
Lee as a playable character, sure. Lee as a non-playable character is an incapable fighter against Randall.
Keep in mind that Michonne only defeats Randall with the help of Paige and determinantly Pete. He can kill Michonne numerous times during either fight.
Not observing the what was next to the trash can from afar became his doom. Clementine going with the Stranger was just a well-placed justification for the player to accept him getting bitten.
"Lee as a non-playable character is an incapable" what kind of excuse is that? doesnt make sense, its stupid if you ask me. And about michonne, she is a badass, yes, but please!!! give me f#ckin break! she is no soo great! both michonne and abraham together got their asses kicked by paul monroe, so easily!!! she is not perfect.
Yeah, once.
She got taken out once. By the most proficient hand-to-hand fighter in the entire series. How about every other fight she's come out on top of? Or are you just not gonna count those?
Award of the year for taking a comment out of context goes to @Alex_L_P! You know full well that you did so twice, in reply to me. I'd rather have you say that it was unconsciously, to be honest.
I said that Lee, as a non-playable character, is an incapable fighter against Randall.
You also said that Pete and Paige "are not fighters like Michonne," and despite this, you ask people to "give [you] a fucking break" from hearing about her badassery, and proceed to explain that she "is not so great."
she can be a badass most of the time, but not everyone its perfect!
I think any of those fights could go in Randall's favor.Mike is overpowered by Kenny and doesn't seem like a fighter. Molly is fast but Randall would do damage if he got his hands on her. Carver is tough but older and probably not as fast. The bandits were only tough because of their numbers and weapons. Andy is tough as hell I'll give him that.
I'm just considering Randall's fighting skills, violent nature, and the fact that's he has survived for so long.
I vote Randall because Lee is dead.
And Randall too (determinant)
Duck
mike didnt want to fight Kenny thats why but he has shown to be strong.
It would be a hard one that's for sure but Randall has shown to be more than a match for Michonne. And her and Molly are on the same level as far as skill
I don't know what makes you say this. Carver has no feats and hasn't fought fairly at all. He's pretty cowardly who only gets violent when the odds are in his own favor. Randall is many things but he doesn't seem to have a problem with fighting fair even when he's outnumbered
Sure he's strong but I doubt he's much of a fighter. He doesn't try to fight back when Kenny gets in his face and he doesn't seem to like confrontation. Also he goes down in one shot in the Shoot Mike option
Brutality and how evil you are doesn't improve your skill on fighting. Their lust for blood might be more but they were strung put meth heads who's strength were numbers
Yeah I'll give you this one it would be a slobber knocker. But Randall isn't shy to take damage. He gets his head smashed multiple times and his hands crushed. That would concuss or even kill a normal man.
If Randall were to suppose a threat to Clementine's security, I think that Lee would beat Randall badly, but if Clementine wasn't present, I don't think that Lee would have a chance.
In my opinion is the Clementine factor what's important here.