Was Jane also Unstable?

Not in the level that Kenny is. But Jane could have stopped the fight with Kenny at any point and Jane is shown to be a Very Smart character thoughout the episodes she appeared in ((Manipulating Troy into lowering his guard to kill him, Knowing about the walker gut disguise, Knowing which weapons are better for killing walkers and things that people would not usually think to use but that would also have a good inpact in a zombie apocalypse the nail file for example.))
So could Jane have Become a bit unstable too? Let s review what she has been thought:
1: The stress of helping her Sister jaime making her survive longer when she wanted to die.
2: The weighing of her conscience due to leaving her Sister.
3: Sarah s death who is someone Jane related to her sister.
Now for the actual Heavy impact ones:
4: Luke s death. Its shown in her dialogue that she cared about Luke and he was probably the 10% besides clem that brought her back.
5: Her increasing worry that Kenny would try to Hurt Clem due to his Snapping at Clem in episode 4 and Him Punching arvo in episode 5.
So why would Jane who has shown to be very Smart make such a bad plan? ((Besides the bad writing on No Going Back)) and also Why would she not Stop her fight with Kenny when she was clearly about to Die ?

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  • Well that was quick O_o.

    Yes.

  • I think someone got it right when they said it was your choice between a psychopath and a sociopath. Both different flavors of fucked up

  • Maybe, though I think that may have been the implication. Her interactions with Troy, Sarah(through Clementine), and eventually Kenny suggest that she has a hidden problem with anger and aggression that can just suddenly come out.

  • Instability, as in unpredictable behavior and erratic changes of mood, is something that in my opinion she does not have. From what we've witnessed, she is sincere and upfront about what she believes, and her actions can always be foreseen.

  • edited October 2016

    So why would Jane who has shown to be very smart make such a bad plan?

    I think this was due to her either thinking too much of herself, probably thinking that she could somehow overpower Kenny, or underestimation of Kenny's madness and/or fighting abilities.

    Why would she not stop her fight with Kenny when she was clearly about to die?

    During the fight she thought she could somehow control the situation by overpowering Kenny or maybe she just lost her nerve after Kenny's second attack right before she sheathed her weapon.
    When she was pinned on the ground and aware that Kenny was actually going to kill her, she knew that admitting that AJ was alive would just infuriate Kenny further, which would result in certain death.

    I don't think there's much emotional influence to the bad planning and execution of her plan, just lack of knowledge about Kenny's attributes.

  • When she was pinned on the ground and aware that Kenny was actually going to kill her, she knew that admitting that AJ was alive would just infuriate Kenny further, which would result in certain death.

    This had never crossed my mind before.

    So why would Jane who has shown to be very smart make such a bad plan? I think this was due to her either thinking too much of herse

  • She was the only one unstable.

  • Would you care to elaborate?

    She was the only one unstable.

  • I agree.

    She was the only one unstable.

  • Nah.

    Would you care to elaborate?

  • edited October 2016

    As a fan of Jane, i'd say yeah a little. A stable person doesn't leave a baby alone like that in my opinion. People might argue that the kid wasn't really in danger but still.... it's just wrong.

  • Even if that's true, she should have still said something to make sure that Kenny and Clementine found him. If they didn't hear him cry then he could well have been left for dead.

    When she was pinned on the ground and aware that Kenny was actually going to kill her, she knew that admitting that AJ was alive would just infuriate Kenny further, which would result in certain death. This had never crossed my mind before.

  • Then your thesis that she was the only one unstable is false.

    Nah.

  • No one is defending what Jane did here, just trying to find a plausible justification for Jane not to reveal something that suposedly could save her (I don't think it could've).

    I don't think she was really thinking about AJ when a knife was inches away from being shoved into her chest. Revealing what she did would infuriate Kenny enough to give him the force to deliver the definite killing blow, she either didn't think about that idea or she just omitted it order to not infuriate and strengthen Kenny.

    wdfan posted: »

    Even if that's true, she should have still said something to make sure that Kenny and Clementine found him. If they didn't hear him cry then he could well have been left for dead.

  • Well, I could say the same about your anti-thesis.

    Then your thesis that she was the only one unstable is false.

  • My antithesis of asking you to elaborate?

    The comment that I wrote above Iron's was stated to have been an opinion, and not a fact, but I could further argue in its favor if asked.

    Well, I could say the same about your anti-thesis.

  • Yeah that makes sense. Probably forgot about him altogether given the situation.

    No one is defending what Jane did here, just trying to find a plausible justification for Jane not to reveal something that suposedly could

  • Nah.

    My antithesis of asking you to elaborate? The comment that I wrote above Iron's was stated to have been an opinion, and not a fact, but I could further argue in its favor if asked.

  • It's TWD, everyone's unstable.

  • Nobody will ever realize that you're avoiding answering.

    Nah.

  • My answers are false.

    Nobody will ever realize that you're avoiding answering.

  • I am not sure what you are saying, but you can still explain why you believe Jane is unstable and other characters aren't.

    My answers are false.

  • Sure.

    I am not sure what you are saying, but you can still explain why you believe Jane is unstable and other characters aren't.

  • Ah, nevermind. Have a nice day.

    Sure.

  • You're welcome.

    Ah, nevermind. Have a nice day.

  • You know what, I saw the word "unstable" and just thought they meant crazy and/or violent. Good point.

    Instability, as in unpredictable behavior and erratic changes of mood, is something that in my opinion she does not have. From what we've witnessed, she is sincere and upfront about what she believes, and her actions can always be foreseen.

  • Ehhh, I'd say Bonnie was more desperate and Arvo was just skittish at first. But I see what you're gettin at.

  • Great point. I would usually contribute more to these type of threads, but I don't think there's much more that needs to be said. Jane was, to a heavy extent, unstable, maybe not on the same levels of Kenny, but she certainty displayed unpredictable and reckless behaviour often.

  • Yes, but differently than Kenny. Jane hides her instability. She seems mostly calm and normal, but could casually shoot guys in the cojones, abandon people when they need her, and trick people into killing others.

  • What did i just read?

    Ah, nevermind. Have a nice day.

  • Except Clem and Lee.

    NOHATCLEM posted: »

    It's TWD, everyone's unstable.

  • A failed attempt on my part on starting a discussion.

    UrbanRodrik posted: »

    What did i just read?

  • They might have depression.

    UrbanRodrik posted: »

    Except Clem and Lee.

  • edited October 2016

    At this point I think everyone in the walking dead is unstable.

    Edit: Okay someone already said this. Oops.

  • Well to be honest, all characters have shown unpredictable behavior... which is usually the case when we don't know them well.

  • Yes, both her and kenny needed to be shot.

  • I'd say that it depends on your definition of unstable. For some the word brings up thoughts of someone who is "crazy" or "explosive". For others, it just entails someone who isn't in the best state of mind.

    In the sense of the former, I would not consider her to be unstable. She, for the most part, has a good handle on her person.

    However, when I think of what it means to be unstable, I tend to gravitate towards the second interpretation. So with that in mind, I would consider her to be unstable. In fact, I'd consider every character to be unstable in some way, shape, or form. Of course the degree of instability varies, but you could argue any character unstable.

    While overall Jane handles herself with deliberation and control, she has carried out her fair share of questionable actions. But even then, you could apply sound reasoning to the majority of her choices. Still, a few do pose some questions regarding her mental state.

    Anyways, with what everything Jane has been through and seen, it would be weird for her to not be messed up in some way. She seems to deal with a lot of negative emotions and impaired thought processes because if the shittiness of her situation. Jamie no doubt left the most scars, and I feel that her opening up to Clementine and the group just caused more to resurface, especially because of how things played out. Jane also seemed to be struggling with some inner-conflict as to who she had become. I feel that the determinant ending where Jane decides to let the family in shows that she is improving, but I'd say that she, like everyone, has a lot of mental recovery road left to travel.

    So basically, I wouldn't describe Jane as "insane", or "psychotic", but as not in a healthy state of mind. As others have said, everyone is messed up in the walking dead, and I feel that Jane is no exception.

    Also, take a shot every time I said "unstable."

  • Jane isnt the only unstable character of TWD but she certainly is one of them.

    A failed attempt on my part on starting a discussion.

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