I'm surprised how vulnerable they made Wellington end up being
I was pretty shocked that they made it turn out to be as flimsy of a community as it turned out to be that could end up getting over run by what is no more than seemingly a small group of bandits. Now of course they didn't show us a very detailed story of what happened but you would think a community that people from entirely different states were hearing about would turn out to be at the very least as solid of a community as the communities in D.C are.
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I'm not. No place is safe forever.
The reason it was so vulnerable was because the writers said so.
I dont really get the whole Wellington thing either. I mean apparently the people attacked because Wellington didnt give them supplies, but season 2 the point was Wellington only gave supplies?
True, it's pretty much a question of when.
We're two freaking episodes in and Telltale already had THREE communities fall. These same old tricks are just painful to go through at this point.
Last we heard, Wellington was like a fortress with more people than they could afford to feed. Come Season 3 it had what, like 7 members? And they were all females it seems like. Pft.
They literally gave out supplies for free and let anyone into their complex. I'm surprised they weren't taken out earlier.
I thought it was more that they wanted all their supplies which is why they kept coming back.
Clem and AJ spent two years in safety at Wellington. That's still quite a long period of time.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it the NF that attacked Wellington? They've amassed a lot of weapons, have an ex-military man as their leader and so must have a good handle on their strategies/tactics, and are aggressive in asserting their dominance... they would be a formidable opponent for any community.
That's the point, they even give 2 bags of supplies if Clementine leaves with Kenny. I mean, that's pretty dumb, especially considering they live in such a cold area.
It's disappointing how Season 2 had hyped up Wellington as the prime destination for survivors looking for a safe haven to stay in, and that the majority of the story was about reaching towards that destination for Clementine's (and eventually AJ's) sake. By the time Clementine does reach there, she discovers that the place would only allow for one or two more people due to being too full to accept any more people, and that she had to let Kenny go in order to achieve her own safe haven.
And then in Season 3, we only get a glimpse of one room and the outside border of Wellington, which is easily overtaken by a handful of bandits begging for more supplies. The community is also supposedly home to many survivors working together to support each other in the winter, and yet we only see just one person (Edith) interacting with Clementine, and there appears to be no guards hired to keep bandits out, no other survivors working and living inside Wellington, and no other areas besides the one room Clementine lives in.
I can't help but feel that the flashbacks in Season 3, especially the Wellington flashback, had made all the impact and direction behind the story of Season 2 utterly meaningless.
Not really. It was Kenny who was hyped up about finding Wellington and even then, it wasn't a consistently expressed goal of his.
To be fair, it was pretty damn close to begin with since AJ is so far the only thing of note to come out of it.
That was just Edith having a big heart. I suspect that they gave small amounts of supplies away in order to prevent such an assault when they had to start turning survivors away. You can see Edith's face and body language when she starts giving them the bad news, she's expects them to be angry and she's probably been dealing with that a lot.
I believe that Christa first makes a mention of the place in All That Remains before being permanently separated from Clementine. And since Kenny makes a mention of Wellington again in A House Divided, and with how much focus Kenny had in comparison to other characters in Season 2, it only felt natural for me to assume that Wellington is the supposed end goal of Season 2 unless the player makes his own choice to go with Jane instead of supporting Kenny's plan.
And I'm dreading to see how AJ will be handled in Season 3, since he's one of the only few reasons to give the audience a reason to actually play Season 2.
Honestly, that seemed more like a convenient motivational advantage for Kenny at times.
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Mmm...granted. Though, Christa herself also stopped being mentioned for a while, which more or less makes it clear that Wellington was a Nick Breckon concept that was forgotten in his absence.
Honestly, I think that just hammers in how inconsistent Season 2 was in that case. For as much focus and prominence they gave Kenny, he couldn't keep a consistently expressed goal that would've made his role justified and just fought with the other characters for drama sake.
Why Season 1?
That's how it works! The writers write the story.
That's most likely it, Venge!
Turns out Lee was right.
"You're gonna wanna find some place like the motor inn, but that's just not safe. Those places are just targets."
Yeah, i felt like that was kind of bad writing...they made it look like such a fortress, but then again, it was built to keep walkers and small groups of bandits out. It seems to me like the NF is a group more akin to the Saviors...those walls were not meant to keep a militia out.
I think the issue was that they gave supplies long enough for the waiting line to get really big eventually there was whole armies of people that couldn't get in and survived on those supplies long enough to decide they should ban together and just take the place down due to desperation. This might have taken maybe 1 or 2 years to build up.
If they didn't give out supplies many would have returned down south or were killed off so there wouldn't be a built up of the army.
Wellington turned out to be poop because they had no intention of doing anything with it. TTG wanted the Clem alone ending so that's what you got.
Whoa, hold up. What's the third community?
There's Wellington and Prescott, what's the third one?
Richmond. It was taken over by NF.
Does Monroe from the Michonne Mini-Series count as well?
That place was destroyed not long after Michonne and Sam were both taken there against their will.
Telltale must have a secret agenda against communities or just people being united altogether considering no group lasts longer than a season. I mean, it does its job to make the point that 'You're not safe anywhere' but it does get repetitive after three seasons and a DLC.
If you listen to the people raiding Wellington you can hear them say that all they needed was stuff like medicine but Wellington didnt give it.
Honestly no place is safe in Walking Dead. Kenny had the right idea with the sea, yet even then, we see in Michonne Mini Series that there are pirates, which actually does make some sense. Still I'd rather get on a boat and take my chances on the sea compared to land. You don't have to worry about a future fire bombing, you have a good food source, with a filtration unit you could turn the salt water into fresh water, You are safe from walkers, you have a better chance of avoiding people.
Guess that explains why Jane was so shilled.
Nothing can fortify the place when the plot deems it vulnerable.
Actually, apparently walkers either learned how to swim or can brief underwater.
Yeah..
Still, screw her. I've always been a die hard Kenny fan but I didn't really hate her that much after S2. But, after seeing what happens in ANF I lost whatever little respect I had for her.
I was pissed and not surprised at all.
NUMBER TWO rule in any Walking Dead realm; if there's a "safe haven" somewhere, it either is a hellish nightmare or it never lasts. I mean, look at Savannah!
Which is funny considering what happened to her seemed like it was probably meant to invoke sympathy in those who hated her previously, but the overall reaction so far has been all over the place, with the general consensus being "Well, that sucked."
If Telltale really was aiming for sympathy with that death then I've been underestimating just how bad the writting has been. If anything it just further proved that she was in fact selfish and didn't care much for anybody else or what pain her actions might cause others. Kenny's death was shitty but at least they tried to portray him in a different light and drop the whole 'He's crazy' arc. I mean, is it just me did he sound more sane than he ever has before? Because even back at the beginning of S1 he seemed to have a lot of issues.
You know what, now that you mention it, it did strike me a bit odd that he'd be the one teaching Clementine certain things rather than Jane. Really though, his death was just him being him, as far as I can tell: a stubborn old mule throwing himself into danger for someone else.
They clearly took the lazy route with that story.
That's Kenny, ain't it?
But I was referring more to his personality and the way he was acting. He seemed a lot more calm and stress-free than he ever has before. It's almost as if being alone with AJ and Clem makes him better, but soon as other people join shit starts going down.
Either way, I had the Wellington ending so he is.. huh..'alive".