Why do so many of you hate Kenny?

I can understand that he did seemed to be a main focus point in season 2. But Kenny did so much good. So why do so many of you hate. Unfortunately due to my choices the way he died was b*******

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    1. Because he did so much bad, too.
    2. Because anything that was good about him as a person or character was basically thrown out during Season Two.
    3. Because "I got lucky" is as trash of an excuse as how he died, although this and the previous point are more blame on the writers than on himself.
  • As a person Kenny is quite difficult to like, sure he's done so much good but a fair amount of bad stuff too. I think a lot of the reasons people love Kenny is because of how much he's lost and endured yet is resiliant and always seems to care more about Clem and AJ than himself or anybody else. He is a fallen hero, an antihero if you will. There seems to be no emotional middle ground with him, he either hates a character or cares about them, the feeling many fans of the game hold is mutual. He was an asshole to Ben and to many that is perfectly justifiable but to others he was still just a kid who made some stupid mistakes regardless of the good intentions, which ultimately caused Kenny to loose his family. But despite this, Kenny risked his life to save Ben or Christa, neither of which would have ever have done the same for him. This really is the definition of heroism and selflessness. So why do people hate Kenny? Because in my opinion he is the most complicated character this series has ever known, he is so difficult to understand and make a mental profile of, people hate him for the pain he has caused others... but in the end the reason most of us like him is because of the pain he has prevented. I think under different circumstances he would have had the potential to be a better man than Lee.

  • Kenny never had the potential to be a better man than Lee. But having said that....Kenny's arc in S1 should have been the end of his story...a man who does questionable things to protect his family still looses them...makes peace with the idiot who got them killed...goes out to try and save Ben...dies like a boss. Kenny at times was a bit of a coward...advocated murder...advocated letting a woman suffer through being torn apart by walkers just for a distraction. But in the end...he found his peace and died like a man. That was a great story arc....enough said. But then season2 comes...bring him in...ruins the Cabin group's chances of getting development...does horrific things...but banks on the feels from s1 to cover up the fact that he should have been Carlos as they were alluding to Carlos having issues of rage and violence.

  • edited January 2017

    I don't hate Kenny--I grown to dislike him somewhat--but I don't hate him. With that said, the reasons I've picked up on include:

    • Being hot-tempered and stubborn.
    • Not always thinking things through?
    • Almost constantly getting into arguments with Lilly, Luke, Mike, and Jane.
    • Being racist and/or prejudiced and maybe even sexist.
    • Killing Larry and putting Lilly on the road to despair.
    • Having a tendency to hold grudges.
    • Being willing to throw someone under the bus if they don't agree/side with him, namely(and determinately) Lee and Clementine.
    • Being a selfish hypocrite at times.
    • Determinately leaving Duck to turn?
    • Debatable for some, but his excessively harsh treatment of Ben and Arvo.
    • Coming off as somewhat abusive?
    • Eventually becoming so unstable that he becomes a potential danger to everyone around him and alienates many of his group members.
    • Oh, and for derailing Season 2's story. That definitely helps in my case.
  • Well everybody is entitled to their own opinions I suppose, sadly i'd have to disagree with you. To be fair Lee can determinantly be an advocated murderer aswell and let that woman suffer through being torn apart by walkers just for a distraction, even if it was Kenny's idea Lee is still responsible for having the ability to end it but choosing not to. Ofcourse most people will play Lee as a nice guy but some will play him as an asshole, who can be considered nothing more than a murderer who can at times be mean to Clementine unnecessarily. I still stand by the fact that Lee isn't as great a guy as people may think depending on the players actions and dialogue choices, he killed his wife, abandonded his family, threatened to kill Vernon when he met him and his group, shot that woman who had Clementine's hat at the dairy which many consider unnecessary and a lot more. I believe that if the player played Lee like this then Kenny is a far better person. But I understand that you disagree, your name does suggest you're not the biggest Kenny fan.

    Kenny never had the potential to be a better man than Lee. But having said that....Kenny's arc in S1 should have been the end of his story.

  • he killed his wife,

    No, he killed the Senator who was cheating with his wife. I don't know when he says this, but Sam apparently moved to Richmond/Virginia after the sentencing.

    abandonded his family,

    Not sure about this. All I recall is that he apparently worked somewhere away from their town and they were disappointed in him for killing the Governor.

    shot that woman who had Clementine's hat at the dairy which many consider unnecessary and a lot more.

    To be fair, Jolene was talking about adding his nutshack to her collection if he didn't back down, but I agree.

    ZombiePizza posted: »

    Well everybody is entitled to their own opinions I suppose, sadly i'd have to disagree with you. To be fair Lee can determinantly be an advo

  • Because people portray him as a hero, pal, bro. He never really was.

  • I don't like him because he ditched Lee in my first playthrough when the only thing I did against him was try to revive Larry, his rashness makes making reasonable group plans impossible, and he acts like a raving lunatic at the end of Season 2 for the sake of a place of which we had no proof of it's existance, and it only existed because the writers wanted to placate Kenny fans because if anyone else just wandered in a random direction for a pipe dream in a zombie apocalypse during the winter with no supplies or food for the children they are taking care of, it would've ended with them starving or freezing to death.

    Ugh, that season pissed me off.

  • It's very easy to see, the game throws it in your face right away. Kenny is as much likable as he is hated.

  • edited January 2017

    Boils down to your choices. In Season 1, Kenny can either be your best friend or a rival with a crappy attitude depending on what you do. He got me annoyed and made me roll my eyes more than a few times and while I did dislike him in S1, I also thought he was an incredibly well-constructed character, just the fact that there's this duality in the fandom shows it.

    However Season 2 Kenny just shouldn't have existed. The Cabin group had so much potential and Kenny appeared out of the blue just to overshadow them.

  • Don't forget his racism, both accidental and intentional.

    DabigRG posted: »

    I don't hate Kenny--I grown to dislike him somewhat--but I don't hate him. With that said, the reasons I've picked up on include: * Bei

  • Oh, how could I forget that? Thanks!

    Don't forget his racism, both accidental and intentional.

  • Well I don't hate Kenny, I more so like him than I do dislike him but you can't really blame people for disliking him if, say, a single choice you make in Episode 2 determines whether he'll help you in a tight situation or practically stand there and potentially let you die...

  • And who saved Lee at the pharmacy? Who even fixed the RV in episode 3?

    Omid's cat posted: »

    Because people portray him as a hero, pal, bro. He never really was.

  • Actually, that's not the interaction I was thinking of.

    Kenny: So, how'd you get a name like Reggie?
    Sarita: Kenny!
    Kenny: What? I'm just asking.

  • The guy killed dolphins.

  • This is literally the list as to why I love him.

    DabigRG posted: »

    I don't hate Kenny--I grown to dislike him somewhat--but I don't hate him. With that said, the reasons I've picked up on include: * Bei

  • To be fair, Jolene was talking about adding his nutshack to her collection if he didn't back down, but I agree.

    Not to mention that's determinant if Lee shoots her or not.

    DabigRG posted: »

    he killed his wife, No, he killed the Senator who was cheating with his wife. I don't know when he says this, but Sam apparently mov

  • Those are things you love about him? Okay.

    ZombiePizza posted: »

    This is literally the list as to why I love him.

  • He attempts murder. That should be enough for any decent person to think less of the guy.

    There's also:

    • His ingratitude in Season 1,
    • His shaky loyalty in Season 1,
    • His stupid plans which would get everyone killed if ever set in motion in Season 1 and 2,
    • His aggressiveness towards anyone who isn't his family or his personal bitch,
    • His lack of touch towards a soon to be orphan Lilly,
    • His lack of touch towards a soon to be paranoid Lilly,
    • His hypocrisy in Season 1 and 2,
    • His refusal to go look out for a little girl,
    • His needless violence in Season 2,
    • His constant refusal to listen to anyone but himself in Season 1 and 2,
    • His blindness to some of his flaws and wrongdoings,
    • His sadistic behavior in Season 2,
    • His recklessness.
  • Eh, i love Kenny. I encouraged his harsh treatment of certain people. (Arvo) Namely, because that's how i would have treated Arvo.

  • Because he's written to be divisive.

  • That's part of what made it so troubling for me. People identifying with that awful behavior.

    AnimalBoy posted: »

    Eh, i love Kenny. I encouraged his harsh treatment of certain people. (Arvo) Namely, because that's how i would have treated Arvo.

  • You can say that for most characters, to be honest.

    Flog61 posted: »

    Because he's written to be divisive.

  • I think particularly in the case of Kenny, at least in season 1, since he is the main person whom you can become the best friend or enemy of, and who reacts to your choices individually the most.

    In season 2 that went out of the window of course when they wouldn't allow us to answer 'no' when he asks if we trust him.

    DabigRG posted: »

    You can say that for most characters, to be honest.

  • When your wife is from Belgium, your girlfriend is Indian, and you have two BFF's who are gay, but one time you called Lee urban so now you're racist for life

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    DabigRG posted: »

    I don't hate Kenny--I grown to dislike him somewhat--but I don't hate him. With that said, the reasons I've picked up on include: * Bei

  • I love this suddenly appeared Kenny-rage again here...

    Honestly I like his character, a family man who lost everything within a few hours, going through 4 steps of grief (didn't really accepted that they are gone, but who can) and struggling to keep himself stable while dealing with people around him.

    I really liked it.

    And then used as a constant story target in S2EP5; "look how insane he is wooo! He's yelling, where's our safe space? Hey kid drive that car in a blizzard to escape this psycho."

  • I think particularly in the case of Kenny, at least in season 1, since he is the main person whom you can become the best friend or enemy of, and who reacts to your choices individually the most.

    True. He was Lee's Shadow Archetype, after all.

    In season 2 that went out of the window of course when they wouldn't allow us to answer 'no' when he asks if we trust him.

    Also true, somewhat. He still has some special case lines in certain scenes but other than that, the only other character with any adequate variation that I know of was Sarah.

    Flog61 posted: »

    I think particularly in the case of Kenny, at least in season 1, since he is the main person whom you can become the best friend or enemy of

  • Because even though he's done a lot of good things for his friends and family, like risking his life so Clem and AJ could stay at Wellington and killing Jane (my opinion), he's done some bad too, like refusing to at least try to save Shawn and racially slandering a couple Russians.

    I'm far from becoming a hater, but I can understand why people would hate him.

  • Same man who had multiple flaws. Kenny was controversial figure.

    AronDracula posted: »

    And who saved Lee at the pharmacy? Who even fixed the RV in episode 3?

  • edited January 2017

    You call it awful, I don't. I think Arvo deserved it and i would give him the same treatment.

    KCohere posted: »

    That's part of what made it so troubling for me. People identifying with that awful behavior.

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    To be fair, Jolene was talking about adding his nutshack


    his nutshack


    nutshack

    I hope to the good god above that this was just a mistake, and not a reference to what I think it was

    DabigRG posted: »

    he killed his wife, No, he killed the Senator who was cheating with his wife. I don't know when he says this, but Sam apparently mov

  • The cabin group had ZERO potential. They made a bad impression right out the gate by throwing a little girl into a cold, unprotected shack where she was almost eaten alive by another zombie, all because their resident physician was too much of an assclown to tell the difference between a dog bite and a human bite. Kenny couldn't return fast enough.

    CatySky posted: »

    Boils down to your choices. In Season 1, Kenny can either be your best friend or a rival with a crappy attitude depending on what you do. He

  • There aren't actually a lot of people who hate Kenny's character. It's just a few fans who decided they could bully Telltale into doing what they wanted to see happen by being as loud, abrasive, and obnoxious about their opinions on this forum as possible.

    The fact they're still shrieking and screeching about Kenny's presence in S2 after all this time only proves they're more mentally unhinged than Kenny ever was.

  • So you said. And more people should be disturbed by a grown man beating up a boy who had zero chance of defending himself. Yeah, that kind of bullying behavior I do consider awful.

    AnimalBoy posted: »

    You call it awful, I don't. I think Arvo deserved it and i would give him the same treatment.

  • If it would have ended with Kenny trying to save Ben, I would have respected him a lot more. I did. Instead, he turned into the worst kind of person in season two.

    Kenny never had the potential to be a better man than Lee. But having said that....Kenny's arc in S1 should have been the end of his story.

  • What about all of the "Commie this, commie that" stuff. Maybe not racist exactly but definitely questionable.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    When your wife is from Belgium, your girlfriend is Indian, and you have two BFF's who are gay, but one time you called Lee urban so now you're racist for life

  • How did you get that figure?

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    That was probably more of a this guy is just trying to fuck us over type of anger though.

    KCohere posted: »

    What about all of the "Commie this, commie that" stuff. Maybe not racist exactly but definitely questionable.

  • I'm not seeing any loud, abrasive and obnoxious behavior in this thread, nor have I seen people bullying Telltale into doing anything. I really don't know what you're referring to but as someone who is not a Kenny fan, I don't appreciate the implication.

    There aren't actually a lot of people who hate Kenny's character. It's just a few fans who decided they could bully Telltale into doing what

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