How would you feel if they introduced a pedophile?

Apologies if it's already been covered

In this World with no law and groups killing Children, It seems a little unusual that one hasn't been introduced properly yet. The Save Lots bandits potentially were. I thought Chuck would be one when he first came along and started handing out Candy to the kids. And later on, the Stranger.

So anyway, how'd you feel if they went down this path? Or would it be too controversial and best left undone?
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(Passing thought, could Clem have gone full killing badass mode because she encountered one while in the new frontier? Also may explain why she hates them so much?)

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  • What would be the point of adding one?

  • Danny was one...it was mentioned that he wanted the little one. Sure it makes sense...however...they are disgusting human beings, so they could ever only be bandits or some such. I am sure any bandits take the ones from the start of season 2 would have raped Christa and Clementine. It is perhaps too dark a subject, god knows in my line of work I have seen it twice and it breaks my heart..so perhaps this is one thing we can let pass from our Clementine.

  • I think it'd be interesting to find out that a trusted group member was actually like that. Not saying I want something bad to happen to a kid, but like you said itd be realistic and an
    interesting conflict.

    I'm thinking of a character like Thomas Richards from the comics. Seems nice and harmless enough, but if you pay attention and give enough time you realize he's off the walls insane.

  • For realistic purposes

    Unfortunately pedophiles do exist. The game tackles other controversial circumstances, and I think paedophilia would be a huge problem in a post-apocalyptic, lawless World.

    Not every group a young girl came by would have Luke's, Lee's and Kenny's who want to protect you at all costs. There would be bad, sexually deprived people who knew they could get away with it.

    I'd never want anything to ever actually happen to Clementine though

    What would be the point of adding one?

  • edited January 2017

    I am sure any bandits take the ones from the start of season 2 would have raped Christa and Clementine.

    Well, Winston maybe, but I somehow doubt the other two would've if only in comparison.

    It is perhaps too dark a subject, god knows in my line of work I have seen it twice and it breaks my heart..so perhaps this is one thing we can let pass from our Clementine.

    Yeah, I brought up in a previous conversation that they should probably stay the hell away from that plot point, even if Clementine isn't really little anymore.

    Danny was one...it was mentioned that he wanted the little one. Sure it makes sense...however...they are disgusting human beings, so they c

  • I actually thought they'd go this route in season 2 and make us really feel for Clementine. I'm not sure how I'd feel about it though.

  • Depends on how far telltale are willing to go to cause shock value.
    Danny had those type of feelings in unused audio clips where he "enjoyed the younger girls who came to the dairy farm in their spring time dresses' But seeing how they didn't use the audio clips, that's a sign they weren't willing to go that far, so i couldn't see them doing it.

  • At this point, I don't think there's much Telltale could do with those. This far into the apocalypse, we don't really see any kids. Minors by any stretch, sure, but not children.

    That said, it being a mental disorder, I don't think it'd be handled well, or at least it would look pretty played out.

  • Why would Telltale alienate 50% of their target audience?

    I mean, you don't think they gave Clem that sexy jacket in season two to attract normal people, do you?

  • We've already had Danny St. John and apparently the Save Lots Bandits. And I've seen some people suggest characters like Omid, Vernon, The Stranger, The North Carolina Bandits, Luke, Carver, Troy(for some reason) Bonnie, and Jane for various reasons.

    In terms of having an actual one, I suppose it wouldn't hurt if they did it right but I'd rather they leave that up to background information and implications.

  • edited January 2017

    This may cause some outrage but for the first couple episodes I thought Luke would be that guy. He turned out to be great I the end but I always found his charm and desire to be around Clem so much somewhat suspicious.

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    I actually thought they'd go this route in season 2 and make us really feel for Clementine. I'm not sure how I'd feel about it though.

  • People may think Troy because of the beginning of episode 3 when he asked two young girls if "everything came out alright".

    That's more evidence than we have for most of the other characters you listed.

    DabigRG posted: »

    We've already had Danny St. John and apparently the Save Lots Bandits. And I've seen some people suggest characters like Omid, Vernon, The S

  • They already have. His name is Troy.

  • Who the heck is Down?

    This may cause some outrage but for the first couple episodes I thought Luke would be that guy. He turned out to be great I the end but I always found his charm and desire to be around Clem so much somewhat suspicious.

  • edited January 2017

    Like @VengefulKenny, I think it'd be an interesting angle for Telltale to take, where we, the playable character, are in a group, have grown attached to the members of it, and have been able to build up a sense of trust and idea of who're we're relying on within the fold. Yet, throughout the story, some things may come to the light and we'll find out that someone, who we could've considered a friend, is in fact, a complete monster and has been using us for his/her own nefarious motives. We'd be in a position where we could've potentially brought this individual into our group, and would feel the responsibility and guilt that would come with such a decision once their true nature is revealed. I don't think they've explored anything like it before in the games and I'd certainty find it more engaging than fighting re-used bandit models and the conveniently-appearing walkers.

    Still, I'd be unsure how well Telltale could do it. We see how they just use children's deaths as a means to create forced shocks, so I don't know how well they could handle an issue as taboo as child molestation, especially if they were to introduce a character who was a victim of the paedophile's actions. And I also wouldn't be so sure that they'd be able to write a convincing, believable antagonist that we could actually grow to really despise, despite once having trusted them, whilst also still creating a somewhat interesting and complex character at the same time. Guess I don't have enough faith in their writing abilities, nowadays.

  • I always took that as a poor attempt at a shit joke or something. That and why would he be interested in them considering he seems to hate kids and already had Jane approach him.

    People may think Troy because of the beginning of episode 3 when he asked two young girls if "everything came out alright". That's more evidence than we have for most of the other characters you listed.

  • Whoops meant to say Clem, damn autocorrect

    DabigRG posted: »

    Who the heck is Down?

  • I agree that he most likely just hated kids, but it was still a creepy comment that could've implied something else.

    DabigRG posted: »

    I always took that as a poor attempt at a shit joke or something. That and why would he be interested in them considering he seems to hate kids and already had Jane approach him.

  • It would give me a chance to unleash the anger I have towards this kind of people on a game. I mean, I assume TellTale would let us brutally murder them, right?

    I usually avoid killing characters, but working with criminal justice, I saw way too much of this shit. In real life, we really feel powerless when we encounter this kind of case especially because my country doesn't have a punishment that would stop them from doing it again - We don't have life in prison penalty, we don't have death penalty, we know that after a max of 30 years (usually much less) that person will be released, no matter what they did. That's a scary thought, especially for people like me who plan to have kids one day and that have very young family members (two little baby cousins).

    If TellTale added this kind of character, I wouldn't be able to stop myself from beating them to death if the opportunity is given.

  • Would've been a reason for us to hate The Stranger.

  • Why would you want that in a videogame? Its a video game, not reality

    -Stewart- posted: »

    For realistic purposes Unfortunately pedophiles do exist. The game tackles other controversial circumstances, and I think paedophilia wou

  • I thought that's what they were gonna do with the Stranger, to be honest.

    Would've been a reason for us to hate The Stranger.

  • edited January 2017

    I remember people speculating about Luke back then because he was just too sweet and perfect of a character, and understandably that made people suspicious. In such a setting, being that sweet is suspicious, I understand, I am suspicious of Eleanor right now for the same reason.

    But he is one of the few characters that I just immediately liked, though, so I could never really see him that way. I'm glad TellTale kept him as that beautiful sweetroll till the end, and his flaws were related to him sometimes not being very reliable in a tense situation (when he froze when we were trying to save Sarah).

    This may cause some outrage but for the first couple episodes I thought Luke would be that guy. He turned out to be great I the end but I always found his charm and desire to be around Clem so much somewhat suspicious.

  • We want it to be realistic, because, well, if it wasn't the then game wouldn't have the apocalyptic feel.

    Having every group they pass by being welcoming people with good intentions is unrealistic, especially in the apocalypse.

    As long as the character brings something to the story then I don't see why not. It's the walking dead, its supposed to be dark.

    Linuscower posted: »

    Why would you want that in a videogame? Its a video game, not reality

  • As Job would say in a Zombie Apocalypse anything can happen.

  • This is a reminded that pedophilia is the desire to engage in sexual activity with children, not the action itself of raping children. There's a distinction to be made.

  • If he/she was introduced now? Probably would end up dead considering people can't stand that shit and now we got kids running around with guns. That said we have come across a few creeps in all forms of TWD and it never ends well for them.

  • I thought Nate would appear in S2 (because they have been hyping up how 400 days was important) and be the pedophile raper or whatever.

    This series needs to go darker...

  • How would you feel if they introduced a pedophile?

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  • Looks more like you just hit whatever letter was close to each letter of her name and said fuck it.

    Whoops meant to say Clem, damn autocorrect

  • Troy:"Yeah...you take that shit, you skinny little [insert slur here]. Mmm...oh, I see somebody's a fan of beans and peaches!"

    I agree that he most likely just hated kids, but it was still a creepy comment that could've implied something else.

  • True. Not sure if that distinction is a good thing or not, but true.

    This is a reminded that pedophilia is the desire to engage in sexual activity with children, not the action itself of raping children. There's a distinction to be made.

  • I like that you made it gender neutral, btw.

    DoubleJump posted: »

    If he/she was introduced now? Probably would end up dead considering people can't stand that shit and now we got kids running around with guns. That said we have come across a few creeps in all forms of TWD and it never ends well for them.

  • Shhhhhh.....

    DabigRG posted: »

    Looks more like you just hit whatever letter was close to each letter of her name and said fuck it.

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    DabigRG posted: »

    Troy:"Yeah...you take that shit, you skinny little [insert slur here]. Mmm...oh, I see somebody's a fan of beans and peaches!"

  • :lol:

    Shhhhhh.....

  • edited January 2017

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    Also, Sarah's 15, but whatever.

  • What? Just saying.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Also, Sarah's 15, but whatever.

  • I forgot to specify that that's your reaction, as far as I could tell.

    What? Just saying.

  • Sexual tension is one thing considered "too dark of a topic" to show around in mass media, cinematography or other creations, but it would be very big of a deal in post-apocalyptic world, similar to any lawless period in history (stormed cities, taken camps, plunder, outlawry, etc.) Introducing a pedophile is realistic in terms of plot, but then again, it would face an enormous amount of hate.

    Personally, I would love TT to focus more on the consequences of lawlessness and chaos. All we see is shooting and blowing up places, like nothing else could be happening in a world full of zombies.

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