Tired of "regular" plots,please let Clem die in ep5 at least(personal opinion)

Just finished ep3 on iOS from China.Not bad for sure(or,from normal perspective),but I somehow grew tired of all these"regular"plots:Killing "bad"people that we think deserve to die;Protecting "good"people that have strong relations to us,sort of that.Well,after three months of waiting,still those plots that I could easily anticipate.I'm not satisfied at all.Please let Clem die in ep5 at least,or even something more surprising.
Am I the only person thinking that way?

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  • No. Clem is pretty much the only character that survived seasons 1 and 2 from the original Group so keeping on with the bullshit sole survivor plot on to Javier is a retarded idea.

  • What's accomplished by killing clementine? Other than cheap "shock value" it serves no other purpose. Not to mention it makes S1&S2 completely pointless and makes Lee's death meaningless.

  • Well that is not entirely correct. If Clem dies it should be protecting someone (AJ) so Lee saving Clem then Clem saving AJ would not make his death meaningless.

    Chibikid posted: »

    What's accomplished by killing clementine? Other than cheap "shock value" it serves no other purpose. Not to mention it makes S1&S2 completely pointless and makes Lee's death meaningless.

  • Pretty sure if Clem dies, the series dies with it. She's been one of the flagship characters since the beginning, and unless it's done right, killing off Clem is gonna piss off a TON of people.

  • edited March 2017

    Then AJ grows old as Clementine and protects another baby named BJ and AJ dies after that BJ grows as old as AJ and protects another baby named CJ, after that it's the same with DJ, and so on. I don't like that idea of yours.

    Well that is not entirely correct. If Clem dies it should be protecting someone (AJ) so Lee saving Clem then Clem saving AJ would not make his death meaningless.

  • Exactly. Just a repetitive and monotonous cycle that means nothing in the end.

    Then AJ grows old as Clementine and protects another baby named BJ and AJ dies after that BJ grows as old as AJ and protects another baby named CJ, after that it's the same with DJ, and so on. I don't like that idea of yours.

  • Not if done right. I agree that Clem shouldn't die for the sake of shock value, but if the writers give her a very respectable farewell, then I don't see that big a deal.

    Chibikid posted: »

    What's accomplished by killing clementine? Other than cheap "shock value" it serves no other purpose. Not to mention it makes S1&S2 completely pointless and makes Lee's death meaningless.

  • BigASSS NOOOO NO AH NOOOO UHG NOOOO U THINK I AM JUST GONNA PUT UP WITH THAT BULL NO I REFUES NO AND OOOOO MEANS NOO.

  • I'm sure killing off Wolverine pissed off a lot of people as well. And John Marston. Hell, Season 1 might as well have been a standalone game with Lee's death.

    If Javier or whoever else fit to raise AJ is developed properly, while we will dearly miss Clem, the series won't suffer. Even if it does, most major franchises have their faults. Indiana Jones, Terminator, Star Wars, so on so forth.

    Pretty sure if Clem dies, the series dies with it. She's been one of the flagship characters since the beginning, and unless it's done right, killing off Clem is gonna piss off a TON of people.

  • edited March 2017

    How about no?

  • How dare you talk like this about our prophet and savior Clementine!

  • I think it's all connected to AJ's fate. If he dies, Clementine will be devastated and her story might end up with something tragic. I mean, TT has made it clear that they want to appeal to newcomers, so they will more likely focus entirely on Javier.

  • GohanFGCGohanFGC Banned
    edited March 2017

    I'd much prefer another KENNY situation over that. By that I mean they make us THINK she died without ACTUALLY confirming it, AND THEN having her SHOW UP again towards the end. It wouldn't be ALL THAT surprising if TT went that route considering that the title of that Episode is called FROM THE GALLOWS.

  • KILL CLEMENTINE

    After reading His Dark Materials, and playing Bioshock Infinite and Life Is Strange, a game without philosophy, misteries, spirits and breaking the fabric of the universe when fucking with time and space just seems boring to me. Before, at least we kinda wanted to know what the hell happened with Clem, now there's no hook to keep playing. Se already know what will happend: Javier beats the bad guys and Let's Say Sunshine for Everyone. I wanted Clem to become the villian, but it seems like it won't go that way.

  • He said Clem should have an option dead... and he got BANNED, what you get dawg don't ever say that about our Clementine.

  • I'm sure your not the only one. But Clem being wisked away by Comic Paul after she helps save his friends. Way more likely to me. Clem is the chosen one you'll see.....that's not to say she can't go full Darth Vader first. Maybe even in the next Ep, That still of Clem does imply a darker tone as I see it. I fear Clem is pointing that gun at someone who matters....I can smell it.

  • I not one of those people that are obsessed with Clem but I rather her not die because she is the only original character and half the reason some people still play the game. As much as I love Javier I would rather him die to keep the emotional part in there.

  • If they were to give her a proper sendoff (and it'd have to be damn close to the level of feels we got when Lee passed away), then I'd be all for it - as long as it actually serves a purpose. For me at least, and I'm sure there are others who feel this way, Clem is the one thing left in this game that's reminding us of the past 2 seasons, which is a shame in a way.

    I think they'd have to develop Javi a lot more if he were to carry the franchise moving forward. It's just... to me, I think the problem with Javi, and in a sense this season in general, none of it really feels like TWD anymore. The survival aspect we had in the first two seasons just doesn't feel like it's there this time around - it's kind of more like an action game now, and with Javi being a pro baseball player swinging away at walkers and killing them like it's his day job, I think the sense of urgency and suspense might've gone with it.

    Hopefully it doesn't end up being that way, because for all the shit being thrown at it, episode 3 surprisingly had some depth.

  • Doesn't anyone else want to see Clem as an adult? She's already on her way to be a little hotty but a bad ass to boot, eew wee! To me all of these new characters are two dementional and, no matter how hard I try (and I shouldn't have to try) to get into them I just cannot.

  • Not to mention it makes S1&S2 completely pointless and makes Lee's death meaningless.

    But they already made it pointless with ANF as a whole, might as well better put the original canon to sleep (Pun intended) rather than have "my Clem" be like this. Not saying I like the idea of Clem dying in the slightest, but I pretty much lost all the will to "live" in TWDG after Kenny's fate.

    Chibikid posted: »

    What's accomplished by killing clementine? Other than cheap "shock value" it serves no other purpose. Not to mention it makes S1&S2 completely pointless and makes Lee's death meaningless.

  • And if they make a 4th installment they'll sideline Javier in favor of a new protagonist so the game will appeal to newcomers and we can see Javier "from a new perspective"

    fallandir posted: »

    I think it's all connected to AJ's fate. If he dies, Clementine will be devastated and her story might end up with something tragic. I mean,

  • I dont see how killing Clem would improve this season. Telltale should instead focus on making our choices matter

  • edited March 2017

    I totally agree with you,but making choices matter is hard without much more work and way larger game sizes,I seriously doubt they will do that.My major point is,I need a more realistic game.People die out of no reason everyday in the real world,not to say in a world full of walkers.but our characters in the game just wear some kind of protagonist aura and keep creating countless miracles.This very fact itself is cheap and makes little sense to me.
    Generally I consider 400 days the best because they are short,thus not making me believe those characters live all the time.Some even died in the game,which seemed realistic.
    But I do know that this series is a commercial product after all.Even if the producers think the same way as me,they have to make money anyway.Again,this is a personal opinion.Furthermore,whether Clem is going to die or not actually doesn't matter much.It HAS BEEN unrealistic.Yes they shouldn't have made S2 or S3,just like you said in another post.

    Journey95 posted: »

    I dont see how killing Clem would improve this season. Telltale should instead focus on making our choices matter

  • Oh I forgot that 400 days still has some links to S2...Not a good idea at all.Just let them disappear would be much better.

    Journey95 posted: »

    I dont see how killing Clem would improve this season. Telltale should instead focus on making our choices matter

  • No! Clem is the only true survivor in this game. In many ways she is the game. Glad with Javi, but if Clementine dies, I will stop playing.

  • edited April 2017

    And that's why I prefer Danganronpa and Zero Escape.
    Because protagonist CAN DIE.They are mortal common people.They are "good",but died out of no reason.This concept shines the most in the escape minigame in Chapter 1 of Danganronpa v3,the newest release.16 protagonists show as "life points"in the game,when they all die,the game is over(Although the game isn't over actually,perhaps fearing of the players go mad).Really awesome.I believe it conveys the inner thoughts of the producer,something the good ending(or normal ending)won't be allowed to convey:It's no use.Try as you may,you have to face reality and accept your miserable fate.(And I know the minigame is beatable somehow,but the scenario afterwards is vague,not clearily stating they are back to the normal world.)
    Why?Because there's something above them(out of no reason,of course).In Danganronpa it's the Monokuma.In Zero Escape it's Zero.
    However,in TWD,although there's a very huge and deadlier(compare to D and ZE) "above"(the world of walkers),the protagonists seem immortal(S2 and S3 particularly).The only reason S1 is good is simply that Lee died in the end(or to say,finally),otherwise there's little sense(Or,maybe,Mark's gruesome death in ep2,which made ep2 impressive in some way?It's the same occasion when talking to S2 ep2,where Nick accidentally shot the guy on the bridge;Carver shot Walter dead,and left Alvin at your choice,but personally I think it's better to just shot Carlos in the end,making Sarah's collapse more convincing).

    Journey95 posted: »

    I dont see how killing Clem would improve this season. Telltale should instead focus on making our choices matter

  • i played Danganronpa and i would like to ask you when did Kirigiri Die? She was always an important character and the worst that happened to her was a fake out death.

    Idamante posted: »

    And that's why I prefer Danganronpa and Zero Escape. Because protagonist CAN DIE.They are mortal common people.They are "good",but died out

  • edited April 2017

    Exactly,but she's merely a piece of chess the producer used to fulfill the game's commercial needs,as most people can't accept bad people winning at last.Still not realistic to some extent(she's too lucky)but I would say the game has been well balanced and made as its unique(here I'm not meaning tragic,or to say,normal tragic one like TWD)keynote had been set.And sure sometimes we need inspiring good endings especially if in blue,but imo,good endings are cheap in general in that they won't help us face the truth with clear minds.TWD is surely more suitable for tragic endings.Everyone will eventually die in that situation,so why not face it.

    UrbanRodrik posted: »

    i played Danganronpa and i would like to ask you when did Kirigiri Die? She was always an important character and the worst that happened to her was a fake out death.

  • LET CLEM DIE? JESUS ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

  • Or if they could make our choices matter,letting us have alternative endings is not bad too,but like I said earlier,it's quite impossible.

    UrbanRodrik posted: »

    i played Danganronpa and i would like to ask you when did Kirigiri Die? She was always an important character and the worst that happened to her was a fake out death.

  • Eh. I wouldnt say impossible but with enough time and a big enough budget they could do it Until dawn did that althought it was a single game and would not have another season to carry over.

    Idamante posted: »

    Or if they could make our choices matter,letting us have alternative endings is not bad too,but like I said earlier,it's quite impossible.

  • Yeah.But I think the reality is they don't have time or budget,so they either make Clem immortal to make money or let her die to finish this series.I'm not blaming them;actually I feel sad for them.But in that case,killing her would be better.A proper farewell and let's move on to brand new series shouldn't we.

    UrbanRodrik posted: »

    Eh. I wouldnt say impossible but with enough time and a big enough budget they could do it Until dawn did that althought it was a single game and would not have another season to carry over.

  • edited March 2017

    That's still too idealistic.Well I've said enough below,so whatever as long as you like it.I don't like that at all though.
    If I were telltale I'd rather not make anything instead of making something won't live to its standards and for pure money sake.
    I may continue playing the game but please remember what I said in this post telltale.
    This game needs protagonists(and I mean really important ones)to die out of no reason for the sake of realism,just like Mari,for example.

    GohanFGC posted: »

    I'd much prefer another KENNY situation over that. By that I mean they make us THINK she died without ACTUALLY confirming it, AND THEN havin

  • edited March 2017

    So you think important protagonists should always have good reasons for death.That's unrealistic and pointless.Clem could just fall into a river and drown,eaten by a random zombie,or even suffer a lot more and has a slow and painful death,as far as we could imagine.That's realistic and good quality stuff.Of course we remaining characters(is this even true?maybe it's better to say we players)are going to miss her forever but there's really no point in giving her good reason to die.

    ralo229 posted: »

    Not if done right. I agree that Clem shouldn't die for the sake of shock value, but if the writers give her a very respectable farewell, then I don't see that big a deal.

  • Im all for killing important characters, but realism should be the last reason for killing someone, realism doesnt not lead to engaging stories, you need some sort of fiction to make it interesting, or do you think Clem falling down the stairs and breaking her neck would be an emotional moment?

    Idamante posted: »

    That's still too idealistic.Well I've said enough below,so whatever as long as you like it.I don't like that at all though. If I were tellt

  • I think following Clem through to her adulthood would be amazing

    amylynn613 posted: »

    Doesn't anyone else want to see Clem as an adult? She's already on her way to be a little hotty but a bad ass to boot, eew wee! To me all of

  • Clementine dying in Javier's story is a TERRIBLE DECISION.

  • If they're killing clem, they need to have another character from season 1, such as Molly to come back. Otherwise she stays

  • If either of the 2 die I'll stop playing. Lol jk, I said that about Lee but I'm still here.

    YForrester posted: »

    No! Clem is the only true survivor in this game. In many ways she is the game. Glad with Javi, but if Clementine dies, I will stop playing.

  • Eh they'll probably make that happen in a five minute flash-back in Season 4

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