I love you (Episode 5 Spoilers)
The fight between Javi and David was so moving. I chose not to fight back , but to tell David I loved him. I was almost moved to tears, I'm glad I picked that option since my Javi was loyal to David the whole time (except when it came to Kate). What did you chose, and what was your ending? I liked this season but it was way too short in my opinion.
Sign in to comment in this discussion.
Comments
Probably the 2nd best scene for me with the first being the flashbacks..To be honest David was the only good character in this for me.
I didnt play the game I watched it on youtube and this option is not making sense. David was out of it. He was about to kill you. Telling him that you love him doesnt change anything magically. Fight back is making more sense I guess since being kind is not gonna change anything.
Definitely one of my favorite scenes. I loved it so much. I got really emotional too. My Javi ends up convincing David to come back to Richmond but sadly Kate died.
"I love you."
"No... you don't get to say that!"
I know, it's just something I would've said to my sibling. Even though I chose to be with kate, my Javi still loved his brother. Idk maybe I'm just weird lol
In my ending Kate and Gabe were still alive, I kind of preferred it that way since I chose to stay with Kate.
Well it didn't change anything. David still tries to kill you.
Yes, I know. That's why I said it was something I'd say to my sibling...
same lol but kate died poor her
I was talking to MrJava.
When I got to that scene I saw the [Fight Back] option first and was like "Y'know what I'm sick of your shit, David!" then before I hit it I noticed the option to say I love you and was like "...NOPE. I'M GONNA LOVE YOU, EVEN IF YOU KILL ME YOU BASTARD.". After all that time I spent being supportive and kind to the guy, having Javi still try to be on David's side even to the end was really cool.
Does David fight Javier regardless of whether or not he's in a relationship with Kate?
I thought it was funny. Being nice and a pacifist doesn't work out to well in telltale games.
Yes, he'll still think something went on between you and kate, even if you denied her every chance you got
Fight back. No way I'm telling him I love him. I don't.
I cant be polite to a person who tries to kill me. Judge me if you want but this is my opinion.
If that's the case, then I dislike David even more.
He's no brother of mine if he's too far gone to stop himself from trying to kill his little brother over his paranoia with Kate showing more interest in Javier than David.
That annoyed me as well, because it had made Kate sell Javier out to David by bringing up how Kate had loved Javier, which caused David to go berserk to begin with.
I'm presuming that Kate does this even if Javier didn't play with her feeling by kissing her and then dumping her, and if that was the case, then I guess Kate took lessons from Gabe from the previous episode about selling his uncle out by saying that Javier shot Conrad for no good reason.
Then that means that even sweet Mariana would eventually sell out Javier if she had continued to live.
Wonder what her excuse would be in this case? Not getting a candy bar?
they overhyped the choices so much in that choices trailer. like they claimed that romance would kate would lead to completely different scenarios, which it can very temporarily at the end of the episode, where she states whether she wants to form a family or stay distant with javier. the "make peace with david" and "fight david" scenario in the choice trailer was kinda bs. if you were super distant with kate for the entire game, david still believes that you had feelings for her. choices mattered when you got to choose which garcia family members survived, which still sucked because we're given this family at the expense of clementine's story that would've made more sense, yet the whole family has to become determinate other than javier.
I am of the mindset that she would've agreed with Kate and Eleanor's side of things regarding the safer, less conflict driven options.
I agree. If Mariana was alive she would likely share Kate and Eleanor's mindset, rather than do what Gabe and Kate would to her uncle.
Ugh. Double post.
Actually I felt quite emotional during the scene. It might be my favorite scene. I told David I love him and refused to fight him.
But ultimately I chose not to follow him and he and Gabriel died.
It made for a bittersweet ending but ultimately it was the ending I wanted for Javier.
My relationship with David through out the whole season was kind of a mixed bag of emotions. I tried to be a loving, supportive brother while also calling him out on his crap when I felt he was in the wrong. However, in the end I did ultimately betray him by confessing to him that Kate and I are in love. I couldn't bring myself to fight back as he punched my lights out after admitting that to him. I kept telling him over and over that I love him. As he came at me with even more ferocity, I still couldn't bring myself to strike him. He had every right to hate me at that moment, and I felt that I deserved every blow he dealt me. That was the most emotional scene for me personally. David's death, Tripp falling to his demise, and Gabe shooting himself to avoid becoming a walker were all lackluster in my opinion.
Honestly, that scene would have been a lot better if they took some elements from The Wolf Among Us.
You know, when Bigby and Beast fought. That was some epic shit.
Too bad they didn't do it. Would have been a nice throwback.
Well, at least for me...
If you don't play with her feelings she says 'i don't understand how i ever loved you' pointing at Javi. It then will play out the same.
I didn't say she wouldn't, though. But yes, she'd probably be less likely to do so.
I fight him back and when he was choking Javi and said that he wants to kill him, I was ready to tell Clementine after she put a gun to his head to shoot him... too bad there was not such a decision.
And yes, I sided with him whole fucking time.
Yeah I knew there was gonna be a fight regardless of what happened even though I rejected his girlfriend all the time lol. David still by far the best character in the game for me though. Don't know about any other players but after he died, I just didn't give a fuck anymore. None of the other characters provided enough compelling drama for me to care. Was just going through the motions by that point.
Still annoyed that confrontation (or at least reconciliation if you have his back the whole game and say you love him the three times) was not determinant but I loved this scene as well, it was one of the best along with the Garcia family flashback. It actually strongly made me think of the early pokemon film with Mewtwo:
It was heartbreaking. I'm glad I kept up with it.
Goddamn it why did I help Richmond.
My Javi did fight back. David was an asshole for years and behaved like a real lunatic since the end of E4. First he shot Clint in the face, then broke Fern's arm and eventually tried to kill her.. after killing a bitten Rufus without any hesitation. That's when David burned all bridges of possible redemption. That asshole had to understand that he can't bully Javi anymore and that the survivor-group weren't his soldiers. Kate slapping him in the face was amazing too.
Thats the best pokemon story, still brings me to tears. Screw the games, the anime and all other movies.
I actually really liked this scene! I got major Kenny vibes.
I stopped watching the anime and films a long time ago but I have to disagree on the "Screw the games" bit, the first two games (after those it became awful) of the mystery dungeon series are freaking great, they have actual stories, character development and fun gameplay (the gameplay is also one of the biggest critic about those games, it's a case of you either love it or hate it), if you're willing to give them a try pick up Explorers of Sky, my personal favourite pokemon game. The Pokemon ranger spin-offs were alright too, nothing amazing but still enjoyable.
"It's not your fault." Good Will Hunting vibes anyone?
Do you know what option make Gabe die? I chose not to follow them either but Gabe was still alive in my playthrough
Screw you Gryff--- I mean David! Im Rodrik-- I mean Javier!
It all depends on Clem. No one is sure yet what triggers the decision she makes, but she needs to decide to stick with you, and then the both of you have to help Kate.
I told David I loved him because my Javi does and he made a promise to his father. As much as I did not approve of David in the earlier episodes, and I still couldn't stand him by the end of the game for being so stubborn... At least this proved that Javi was the better man. Because in my game, he is.