So that's the end of Javier's story?.....What are your thoughts? (Spoilers)
When I first saw that we were playing as another character not as Clementine I was pretty annoyed, but now playing as Javier it made me come to realise that I liked playing as him, although i did miss not playing as Clem, I really enjoyed playing as another character which I found interesting.
In my opinion I really liked this season. I got to admit I'm really hyped about the next season possibly playing as Clementine, but I'm kinda sad about leaving Javier. Also since there's a lot of determinants like David, Kate and Gabe I don't know if they would continue Javier's story which i'm actually really upset about, yes I know that I should be happy about there being another season I am.
But I feel weird with this ending (Gabe survived in my play through, Kate died or went missing and David died pretty shitty end for me tbh) But I really thought that Javier, Kate and Gabe would survive and not be determinant or something and I was hoping for Clementine to find AJ and run Richmond with Javier, I would love to play as Clem next season and also see Javier's group but i don't think that's the case because of the deaths.
I just don't know, what are your guys thoughts and theories for season 4? or whatever you would like to call it.
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Maybe next season we play as Clem and Javi is by our side ? That would be cool
That would be pretty cool, I'm still kinda upset about the amount of determinant characters though, all of them made me cry hahaha
I loved the finale but I also got that feeling of Javi's story being over and I really hate the idea of that. I love Javi and want his story to continue.
Gabe's death was the saddest I think, though I got him to live and David to die, which also made me a bit teary. Yeah the endings are damn sad.
There's no such thing as just a happy ending in the walking dead, but what we did get is at the very least bittersweet. I'm sure we'll run into Javier again in the future.
I am quite fine with the ending I got. Although Javi lost David and Gabriel, he is finally able to be with Kate, start a family and find a purpose of rebuilding Richmond.
It is a bittersweet ending but my Javier is able to find peace.
I'll be sad to see him go if this is indeed the end of his story.
THANK. GOD. Time to get hyped for the REAL season 3. "Clementines story will continue"
I liked it for the most part, okay i guess...but this last ep wasnt that great.
i'm pretty pissed to be honest. i have no interest in clementine and i thought javier was a far better character, so seeing many of his family members die and then clem to take the spotlight again for no reason is pretty upsetting. really big fuck you from telltale in my opinion, although i accept many people won't share this opinion and i'm genuinely glad whoever disagrees is going to get the season 3 they truly wanted eventually. congrats guys, happy for ya.
also where the fuck is christa.
I'm conflicted, I enjoyed it, but Tripp / Ava get the classic, telltale determinant treatment one-oh-fucking-one (with Ava's actually being hilarious, "Be more carefu--aghhhh" dies) at least everyone moved on within five seconds. I still got locked into a fight with David despite the fact I've been 100% pro-David the entire game, and broke up with Kate. Like, Telltale did a 10/10 job on Javier and David's relationship in EP3 & 4, really tailoring it, and making it feel organic and realistic, and determinant on your choices. Here, they even start out hostile, for some reason, with Javi pushing him because forced drama. Let alone the fact, just before, I'd saved him at his execution, saved Ava, shot Joan, and before even that, we were hugging in a cell.
Also, did they just forget the end of last episode? David goes to kill Joan / Clint with Ava / Gabe, and Javier is with Conrad / Tripp, yet... nope. That's effort, so we'll just give everyone the same start. Also, we'll forget Joan, Clint, Max and Lonnie even exist while we're at it.
So then David ended up dying, and Kate ended up going M.I.A. There was also no Clementine playable sequence, the final outro bit of the game was screaming for it, I felt, but no dice.
The flashback this time sucked as well. Like, really? This house again... with David being a dick to us, again. At least he stayed clear of the, 'u only tink about yerself' speeches for once. At least it led to the powerful moment where "You broke your promise to your father" after punching David. It's just like... we could have been at David and Kate's wedding as the best man. We could have been playing Javier's last baseball game before he was caught and booted. Instead, we got this. Yawn.
In the end, I didn't want to lead Richmond (or have anything to do with it) but I guess Javi's staying anyway, and Clem's gone to find AJ, which is bullshit that arc is still on-going. That church scene was supposed to be sad... I guess? I was just wondering where the hell they got those photos...all the while praying they weren't just going to end things there like that, which they did. So it was another short episode.
So yeah, I like Javier, and I've had fun with the episodes this season, but my thoughts are ultimately the same as most people's I think... pretty underwhelming, pretty disappointing.
"Eh"
I liked parts, mostly the David bits, because you actually got to decide your stance towards him. I disliked the Kate bits because the drama was set in stone regardless of your efforts to avoid it. I disliked the Clem bits because we didn't play as her, and her presence influences your decisions. I disliked the Gabe bits even though I liked him as a character, he was written to screw up.
I don't feel like the story amounted to what Telltale intended. It would have been better if the Garcia family had remained in the flashbacks and Javier could approach the New Frontier as a independent character and let us form relationships to the characters without narrative hand-holding.
Clem taking the spotlight for NO REASON? She's the MAIN CHARACTER TWD has always been about her. What's a really big fuck you is telltale completely forgetting this and then make ANF with javi and his family just to get "newcomers". Which don't exist at all.
Toooo short, I actually started liking the game in episode 5, because I was actually starting to like the characters (except Kate), and then it was over, if it had been like 3 or 4 hours longer, it would have been alot better
Are you listening Telltale? please, longer episodes make for a better story
Also, I didnt really like how the end card for David is purely determined by a few major choices, whereas all the times where you can be a good brother to him (standing with him on the roof, telling him he is a good father), doesnt even matter at all, but alot of the choices that do matter, is a question about morality, moreso than a question about whether or not you are good towards your brother, because I really felt like I was trying to be a good brother, even though I didnt agree with his methods, but in the end I got told that my relationship with David was "dysfunctional"
I think the last two episodes in particular saved the season for me, and are some of my favorite stuff Tell Tale has done. I expect to see Clem, Javi and Richmond, along with a few survivors show up again next season, Kate if Javi ended up with her. The first episode really didn't sit well with me, the flashback bits. I loved the flashback device, just not the way it killed whoever survived Season 2, or the way it was done. With this situation now, I think we have some hope that some of these characters can survive longer as recurrent characters, in smaller doses. I loved Clem's development, and the Javi/Kate/David dynamic.
And bravo on the ending slides, some of the best I've ever seen. Saved the screen shots.
i didn't say it was a big fuck you to everyone, i said it was a big fuck you to me (and to a certain extent, players like me) but ok.
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Same! I loved this season, and I love Javi! If they abandon Javi in favor of just Clem, than this entire season was literally pointless.