Would you want to lead a community next season?
Now that ANF is over, it seems like the story is moving forward by setting Javi up to lead Richmond. Whether we will be able to play as Javi and rebuild Richmond is still not known, however I think this will be a golden opportunity to allow us to experience a role that can have some real consequences.
As the leader of a community, it would be our responsibility to come up with plans on how to defend our walls, how to manage and ration food, supplies, and medicine, and even what type of laws to abide by. This can allow us to choose whether to become a peaceful community that contributes to the growing network of communities like the one Jesus is from or we can even become a community that is all about the survival of the fittest like Crawford or Carver's camp.
I do believe that taking this role can drastically improve the story and immersion of the player and make our choices count in the long run. Not to mention it would be a great way to integrate our choices from this season. For example maybe if David lived and is with us, he would lean more towards being about survival and we can choose whether or not to go along with this. If Kate lives and is with us, than we would lean more towards helping others and choosing to go down that path or not.
I think in order to keep the fans happy we can dedicate maybe one chapter in each episode to visiting Richmond and having the majority of the episode be about Clem. Example: During a scene Clem could be like "I wonder how things are going with Javi?", and we would transition to Richmond. Also, maybe depending on our leadership, this can affect Clem's journey as well. Like if a herd attacks and we choose to lead the herd away, that could mean we just sent the herd towards Clem's general direction. Or if we choose to attack other communities to survive that could mean survivors Clem meets would be more hostile towards her, especially since she still has the New Frontier brand on her arm. I know it's still too early to talk about next season but I want to hear on your thoughts about this. Do you think being a community leader would be a good role to play next season or would it be better to skip it?
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Interesting idea. I assume a role like that would be kinda like playing as Rodrik in GOT. Defend your house err I mean community from the Whitehill err I mean walker threat!
The thing is I don't trust telltale to try and even pull something like that off seeing how all the past community storylines have ended. Plus Telltale is focused on Clementines story now and her journey going forward in her search for AJ. And there's really no point for Javier to be in the story unless telltale shoehorns him in like they did Clementine in ANF. Plus I think it's better to leave Richmond and the remaining Garcia's removed from the active story since it will be saved from telltales typically writing process.
No not really. Each season has been centralized around a settlement or two, and the travels between them. From the Motel to Crawford, from the Cabin to Howe's and at least partially to Wellington.
I'd prefer a story that feels more like a geographic journey without the intent to necessarily rejoin society straight away, actually surviving on your own.
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I never played GOT so I wouldn't know.
Yes, with Clem helping Javier lead Richmond while teaching AJ how to survive would be awesome.
I also agree that I don't think we'll revisit Javi's SL of possibly leading Richmond next season.
Sounds like a cool idea though! Having to deal with internal politics, external threats, acquiring supplies and basic necessities, the threat of a zombie herd, etc. there are many possibilities where they could go with. It would be nice if the community could still make it and become stronger after whatever conflict as that would be a fresh change for Telltale.
I like that. Clementine moving from one small group of survivors to the next one and the next one after that.. it gets really dull. The story should become "bigger" and involve intact communities, like in the comics/tv-show. Javi with Richmond would be the perfect opportunity for that.
Personally I would love to lead a community as Javi. It will definitely be a unique role to explore and one that hasn't been done before in the game. We have always been following people and it would be a nice change for us to lead. I like the idea of transitioning between the two stories. Or maybe finding AJ can be one or two episodes and leading can be the rest of the season.
NAH FUCK RICHMOND
Go play state of decay if you want to lead a community, it's an great game and part 2 is coming later this year.
I dont really like the ideas of communities, I have always felt like the games are best when youre on the road, with places to stop in between problems or whatever, I also really like to play the underdog, which is why I really enjoyed season 2
That would be a pretty fresh and interesting idea if done right. That's the problem though, I don't trust Teltale anymore after what they did to Kenny.
I know what you mean, although maybe they learned from all the back lash and I feel they might do better to handle determinant characters better because of it. At least I hope so
you starved half your community
sounds good
if its just a chapter per episode then i think Telltale can pull it off then again Telltale was too lazy to even Keep Kenny and Jane for the flashbacks entirety of the flashbacks .
A wellington situation would just be created again
I'm sure it can work. I think Telltale took the easy way out with Kenny and Jane because they were both determinant. However, since Javi is not it would be easier to work with. But we will just have to wait and see.
I don't like that idea.
At the end of the day, Telltale will do whatever they want. If by next season, they want Javier as the Rickesque leader of Richmond, that'll be the case regardless of anything we've done this season. And if they decide, they want him elsewhere, or not even in it at all, that's what will happen, too.
For me personally, though, and my Javi, there was no way he could accept Jesus' suggestion to lead Richmond, nor is he really the type of person to lead a community anyway. I shot Joan. I went after Gabe and David. I was pretty much happy to leave Richmond to the dogs, at every point after Episode 3's end where, despite proving Joan's guilt, everyone was happy to follow her and take down Javi and David...
I just hope Javier appears next season, I wouldn't even mind if he was playable. While I definitely want and think Clem should be in the story as much as possible, she's always best as an npc, imo.
I would love for the next season to be us playing as Javier leading Richmond. I think there's a lot of potential for a great story to be told through the position of leader of a community with several connections (Kingdom). Besides, the whole jumping from group to group and being the only survivor is becoming a worn-out story.
Richmond is going to fall!
Here's why:
I would love this as a DLC.
You as ruler of Richmond Javier have to either try to please everyone (which results in many deaths of your people) or do what Joan did and raid/sacrifice (which results in more lives saved but everyone hates you).
Meanwhile Kate/Gabe are at your side judging your actions.
Then Richmond goes to hell which leads to Javier leaving and coincidentally encountering clem (with Gabe or Kate left to pick up the pieces of Richmond) .
i think this would make a great dlc in between this season and season 4! it would let you get to know javi more than just being a baseball player and family man and see how he would handle being the leader of a community. and, if you do like the idea of javi/jesus, occasional cameos from jesus could let you possibly romance jesus or just become closer friends. it could also help you rebuild relationships with david and strengthen relationships with kate and gabe and let you raise gabe! and you could see the outcome of richmond by having clem return with aj next season. this is a great idea and has endless possibilities of how it could go!!
Yeah, I'd rather have this be DLC than a one about Clem because I WANT CLEM TO HAVE A WHOLE SEASON TO HERSELF! I want to enjoy playing as Clem again for hours and hours, not a 50 minute DLC episode.
yeah, i'm sure they could do so much with clem trying to find aj with an entire season, and i think that's what they'll do considering the complaints even though i personally enjoyed playing as javi. but hopefully they keep her alone and redeem themselves from s2 bc that was a bit of a mess, but i'm still excited to play as her again since seeing how much she's grown and how she's turned out!
I agree fully. I think part of the reason people don't really care about many of the other characters is because Clementine is the only one who survives lol. Being part of a community would allow us to actually develope characters for the long term. I agree about the shifting groups being worn out
With or without Javier, that doesn't seem like the type of game Telltale would be able to make.
You just keep in mind "Oh, well all these characters are gonna die soon anyway." It gives you a lot less reason to care about them. The first two seasons were practically the same in this regard and it took away from my experience of the second season. This is why I'm hoping Clem's story will be DLC and the next season might be a combination of Javier and Clem like TFTB. While I do like playing as Clem, there's a lot less potential when playing as a younger character. This was evident in season 2 when making decisions in the group, it felt weird. Besides, if Telltale dropped Javier and his story after this season then the whole thing was completely pointless.
That would be very interesting. Making choices of putting people into defending the wall, or lookout, or supply runs could be difficult choices.
That's why Richmond shouldn't be a player-choice. Make Javi a fix leader, no matter what the playerbase would like to choose and then go through with this community-gameplay.
+1
This sound really good! I'd play it...
1) Nope. If Richmond doesn't get too important, it can remain silently as one of the "suppliers" of established big settlements.
2) Not entirely right either. Most of Richmond's citizens were normal people who just want a normal life. The masses obviously were in total shock when they saw what Joan was doing. So they do not want violent leaders. That means, if Javi didn't behave like a maniac and shot Joan on the stage, they should only be angry at David. Especially when they get to know how Javi and Kate saved Richmond and David doesn't come back. They may be not "best friends" with Javi, but they have to trust the new leaders, because what would be the alternative? Another civil war?
3) Wellington wasn't attacked by New Frontier (unused voice-lines in the data make it pretty clear), Prescott is entirely gone and Jesus will tell the other settlements (like Kingdom) that the bad people of New Frontier are gone now. No reason to attack Richmond.
4) Who says Clem is going to travel across the globe again?
JAVUS DLC FUCK YEAH!!
TELLTALE HIRE THIS MAN
CLEM IS ALASKA THAT SOUNDS SO GOOD
IMAGINE JUST TRYING TO CROSS TO ASIA TO SCAPE THE ZOMBIES
THINKING THAT MAYBE ONLY AMERICA WAS INFECTED
AND TRYING TO SCAPE TO START A NEW LIFE
AND THEN SHE DIES
That would be super unrealistic. there's 123 people in that settlement. I'm sure at least a dozen people survived off screen.
With Richmond in the picture, she can't now. Not without, looking like a total dumbass.
Are you taking the piss?
Are YOU taking the piss?