What does A New Frontier do wrong?
After my thread asking for everything A New Frontier did right it only makes sense to have a polar opposite thread that goes over everything A New Frontier messed up.
Oh boy, this should be fun.
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Basically everything that shouldn't be done in a Telltale game.
lackluster writing, lack of character development, short episode lengths (literally only two of the episodes go up to 90 minutes. but, every episode has a flashback or two. so basically this makes the present-day time about 60-70 minutes per episode, even less for episode two), inconsistent writing and characters due to them changing whole teams of writers every single damn episode, us being told clementine is a sole character yet she is blatantly just there for fanservice, the devs not providing any closure whatsoever in the finale (what about joan, clint, eleanor, max, lonnie, aj, etc?), too much unrealistic shit (clem pinning a man roughly three times her size to the ground, richmond being saved extremely quickly, etc), most characters have no depth (i literally cared about three of the characters), forced romance, lies, cheesy dialogue here and there, glitches, forced scenes, lack of direction (shit just happens. barely anything happens in the episode anyways), kenny/jane/edith flashbacks, models, and cheap ass deaths, no hubs, barely any gameplay, etc, etc, etc....
Here's a list to help people out:
God knows how many other problems I'm leaving out, but these are the ones off the top of my head.
Everything. Here is why:
This doesn't feel like a Walking Dead game, it feels more like a game directed by Michael Bay due to the repetetive QTEs and action focus.
Well seems like everything that was wrong with the second season was simply augmented then amplified tenfold in New Frontier. Which proves they never listened to customer complaints from the last mistakes they made... and then turn around after taking a longer time to make the game recreated the same problems but worse. Then tried to "accommodate" a nearly non existent group of players. Then the final nail in the coffin, they pushed the only character that has ties to Lee and the Macon group to the background. Might not of been so bad if the story was still great and was interesting, because I believe you can have a good story and great new charactersfif they are done justice. Season 2 had those issues but rather than improve they drove further down the ditch they crashed into. What this once great series has become presently is about the only thing they've done, that is waaaay sadder than Lee's departure.
Also, the dialogue options don't even match to what results the protagonist to say, like:
Cop outs. That is all.
Really? I thought From the Gallows was one of the stronger episodes, besides the cheap deaths of Tripp and Ava.
And that god-awful haircut.
I'll never understand people dissing LiS dialogue.
LiS dialogue is the type of dialogue you'd expect from grown men who don't know how teenagers work in the 21st century. But the story is pretty solid I gotta give them that.
Well I can only say you're wrong, but I can see this is going to be a pointless argument.
Really? As someone who was in high school when the game came out, I can safely tell you that no one acts like that. Sure there are those character tropes like the jock and the nerd, but the dialogue is pure cringe. Stuff like "hella" and "Are you cereal" and "amazeballs" is not something teens say. The only time teens say cereal instead of serious is when we quote the Manbearpig episode of South Park and do an Al Gore impersonation.
I use hella on a daily basis, lol. Maybe I'm just weird.
Agree to disagree. Other than the handling of choices, I thought it was poorly written, had terrible pacing, character motivations made no sense, it was incredibly short, and had a cheap set up for a next installment.
Either that or I hang around with people who just don't use the word. Seriously, before this game, I never even knew hella was a thing.
Highschool slang isn't the same everywhere. And only Chloe and Max use it, so it's probably from back when they were kids.
But when they were kids was the exact same time I was a kid? In the (at the time) 17 years of my life when the game came out, never had I once heard any kid, teen, or adult say that word. And ever since the game out, I actually tried to be more perceptive and see if anyone does (and not just with hella, but for some of the other cringy dialogue in the game), I'm now 19, almost 20, and I have still never heard anyone say hella. I'm in college now, with people from all over the country, and I have still never heard it once in conversation. Either it's a huge coincidence, or LiS writers can't write good teen dialogue.
[glass him]
Even if the slang would be imaginary it doesn't make a difference. Slang is slang what words are used are largely irrelevant. They could be using N00B and PWNT and 1337 h4x0r the impact is the same. It's an insider thing they use to differentiate themselves from others, which is a real teenage thing. And if that makes you cringe then I guess that's a shame.
I'm waiting for an option which says [Book him].
Life is Strange's dialogue was awful. Yes people do use slang in real life but not to that extreme. You can't seriously be defending lines like "Why don't you go fuck your selfie." and "You're going to get in a hella lot more trouble over this than drugs." right?
I can and I will.
Like I said, I use "hella", but I'm just a weird person. lol.
Some of it was pretty cringy like "hella" "bidness" "sad face" ???
Well okay then, if you think that spouting slang whilst having a gun pointed pointed to your head is believable dialogue who am I to argue?
[Proceeds to knock Him out and stuff Him in the nearest car trunk]
Makes sense...
i was trying to be really positive about the game UNTIL episode five came out. the only thing i was happy with was the treatment of gabe. there are many cons, such as offscreen deaths for main characters, horrible pacing, an incredibly short length (75 minutes, but without the flashback, 60 minutes of present time), lack of closure (where are joan, clint, max, lonnie, aj, etc?), cringey scenes (when kate kissed you in front of david, gabentine), kate and david wanting the complete opposite of what was established in previous episodes, tripp/ava deaths, david fighting you regardless of whether you were romantic w kate or not, clementine acting very positive around david when she fucking hated him a day ago, eleanor's very minimized role (her betrayal could've and should've been a large plot point but it was brushed over completely), the shooting not having really any resolution, they kinda just escape it, richmond being saved super easily, no hubs, david apparently looking for kate in the beginning when he was supposed to be trying to kill clint/joan, gabe too, kate asking if she wants to start a family if you're romantic when either david and/or gabe die (that's not just her being a thot, that's bad writing), etc.
yeah, some of the dialogue was really cringey but the game as a whole was pretty good
im just gonna state four from episode 5 because if i called out every thing wrong with Ties that bind part 1 and 2 this comment would be way too big so here we go:
1: Where did Clint and Joan go? And also just as a bonus why did Joan s scene of getting executed or exiled and Clint s scene of picking what to do about the stolen supplies get deleted in favor of Lolz they dissapeared?
2: Why did Conrad dissapear even thought he was right next to you in the end of episode 4 only to appear in the ending of episode 5?
3: Ava s death scene.
4: WTF IS THIS?
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The easier question would be what did they do right? Which would be nothing.
I just got it on ps4 and I'm enjoying it.
I used to when I was a bit younger. I feel old now lmao.
Well, to be fair, I'm almost 19, so I'm kinda young.
The moment TT decided to name it A New Frontier instead of Season 3 was the moment when shit hit the fan. Everything went downhill from there.