Who else thinks Murray is overrated?
Whats with all the hype over that skull? Sure, he was very funny in CMI and had some amazing lines. But in EMI he was completley boring and i thought he was just thrown in to please fans. No funny lines at all and the tooth-clicking got on my nerves.
So...why all the hype. I have no problem to bring Murray back for one episode. I have no problem to encounter him into the Manatees stomach...but whats with all the begging to make him "a crew member"? He isn't THAT special...
Prove me wrong, but I can live without the skull!
So...why all the hype. I have no problem to bring Murray back for one episode. I have no problem to encounter him into the Manatees stomach...but whats with all the begging to make him "a crew member"? He isn't THAT special...
Prove me wrong, but I can live without the skull!
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That game ruined so many childhood memories and loveable characters, including Murray.
Oh don't get me wrong. I liked MI4 a lot and it had some nice parts. Okay, i hated the interpretation of Monkey Island itself and the plastic look, but it was still Monkey Island.
I just thought Murray was crap in MI4.^^
Oh...and i don't play MI for rehashed "childhood memories".
By "memories" I meant playing the games ofcourse, nothing more -_-
I don't see MI4 as a Monkey Island game since they ruined Herman Toothrot (can't be Elaine's grandpa), they threw away the whole pirate setting (Planet Threepwood....), they made LeChuck a henchman (stupid Ozzie), the controls were impossible, the new characters were boring (I.Cheese), and Monkey Combat was just;.....well......wrong
liked the "detective" part of accusing Pegnose Pete.
liked Jambalaye Island and the dark island next to it a lot for the atmosphere.
Hated the charackter models. Man, were they worse.
Are you talking the Goodsoup Family crypt part? That was basically the characters shining moment. Up until then he was just a lot of talk, but there you found out he really is good for scaring people.
I do remember in MI3 however that Murray didnt get near enough lines in my opinion, so I think part of his appeal is that he always leaves you wanting more.
That and he's just awesome.
But I was taken in by his deliciously EVIL character!
So bring it on! Murray = Huray!
Don't get me wrong, I love Murray, but I don't want to see him constantly, and well, I think his time in Monkey Island is over.
As was the entirety of the game
And I think that's the way it should have remained. Bringing him back was a bad move and a bad idea.
I don't think that a character being nice and original means you need to bring him back.
I'm not hoping for old characters to keep popping up in ToMI. A reference from time to time is nice, but what I'd really like is some new, interesting, original characters.
The force of Murray was that he wasn't some old character coming back. He was new.
Sure some charracters are reccuring in every game so far (Guybrush, Elaine, Lechuck, voodoo Lady, Stan...) but the new characters are what makes every one of the games unique in its own way.
I love human Lechuck, I'm starting to like Windlow and I'm pretty curious about Morgan. I'd rather see these being more developped than Largo, Wally and Murray pop back for no reason whatsoever.
(Of course one of them is always welcome to come back if there is a very good reason for it).
I don't think Murray is overrated as a character. I think fans who like something tend to ask for more of it (be it a show, a series of books or a character) and forget that one thing that made them like it in the first place is that it was new and original.
Really, the only past minor characters I believe are worthy of cameo appearances are the Voodoo Lady, Murray, and Stan. The rest (Largo, Wally, Meathook, etc.) seem like they should be confined to the story lines of the past games.
Stan can go though. I hate annoying sales people
In fact, I hope Guybrush says something in TMI like "Oh hey, Murray. Last time I saw you was at the carnival of the damned. I dreamt about you once outside some place called Planet Threepwood, though... that was a pretty weird dream... if I remember correctly I escaped Monkey Island in it. But that was just a dream, so let's stop talking about it. JUST A DREAM."
I was initially against this idea (because it would give Murray too important a role), but I think I'm starting to warm up to it.
I could see this happening for a limited time (no more than half an episode). I think it would be pretty entertaining to hear Murray's commentary every once in a while. He could just be hanging out in Guybrushes inventory or something, like in CoMI.
But I'm one of the old farts that only consider Gilbert's work to be the "true" Monkey Island games, and since Murray first appeared in MI3 he was and always will be a new, somewhat unimportant character.
But bitterness aside, I think it's way funnier to watch Guybrush check every skull for its potential Murrayness then to actually have Murray come back. Monkey Island series is already chokeful of references and recycling old characters to death, I don't really think it's necessary to force feed them constantly in every story. I am already dreading the yet another appearance of "wacky" Stan.. come on, Guybrush nailed him into a coffin for a good reason..
Ooh, now a futurama series would be cool, 3D Leela.
I liked Murray, but am not all that bothered either way if he comes back, he wasn't that funny or important.
I'm kinda this way too, I thought he was quite funny sometimes but it wouldn't bother me if I didn't see him again.
A body? I'd rather see him having a brainless henchman (LeChimp?) that holds him in his big mancrushing hands and strokes him like a cat or something. Kind of like a Bond parody.
To stay on topic Murray IS overrated. There are plenty of characters I'd like to see just as much. Where is the Lemonhead fanclub, for example?
As far as I recall in EMI he was supposed to be on a rotating chair. Unfortunatly the guys from LucasArts didn't bother animating the chair. So they gave him a 2d chair and they kind of tried to put the 3d Murray model on top of it, which didn't work that well. In result, alot of people thought Murray who was just floating and spinning around. But if you look at the chair, Guybrush still mentions it's a spinning chair. Shame really. :rolleyes:
Sorry about that. Now, let's stay on topic.
But yeah, he definetley rocked CMI bigtime. The only appearance that felt forced was when he showed up in the crypt, but thats nitpicking. He definetley sold me to the series after playing the CMI demo. If the writing is as good as it's been so far, along with Denny Delk doing the good ol' voice, I think we're in for a treat. I just hope his appearance will be just for one episode.
I totally agree and I think that should be the extent of his involvement. He's funny as long as he's used sparingly. Too much and it just becomes annoying. I would be okay if one of the episodes had a SHORT quest that involved Murray, but I think the developers are far better off leaving him as an occasional joke, nothing more. And the idea of making him a crew member or otherwise bringing him back permanently makes me cringe.
Reading this, I seem to get the impression that they may have been trying to turn Murray into a copy of Morty from Torment, especially with the teeth clacking and floating about.
Hey, yeah! I've never thought that before but they are very similar characters!
Maybe Lechuck gave him freaky voodoo powers :eek:
Morty ROCKS!