Who reads the comics?
Are you caught up? What do you think about this new group of people? What do you think is gonna happen?
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Are you caught up? What do you think about this new group of people? What do you think is gonna happen?
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I do. Latest issue was released just this week. The new group doesn't seem all that bad. They are being developed as having their issues just like any community would but at this point it definitely doesn't seem like they are being written to be any kind of villain.
Oh and the latest issue pretty much explained Wellington. Not directly but in issue 179 they said that there are other settlements within the Commonwealth. They only mentioned one by name (Greenville) but there are many others as well. So Wellington was likely a settlement within the Commonwealth.
That's a total stretch, there's literally no indication that Wellington was part of the Commonwealth.
For all intents and purposes, it is pretty obvious that Wellington was on their own. They turned people away based on their overcapacity, not based on interviews and the class system that the Commonwealth utilizes. They lived in shipping containers and had none of the technology that the Commonwealth has. No armored soldiers in uniforms. Everyone shared chores in Wellington instead of being assigned jobs and classes.
Some people will stop at nothing to link Wellington to the comic books and it makes no sense.
We know virtually nothing about Wellington. All we saw of it was the very end of season 2 (which was basically just one character and a wall). And a very short clip in season 3 where it was getting destroyed. We don't know how they lived. We don't know what their society was like. All we really know about them is a wall and a room that Clem was in when that scene opened.
Kirkman begins developing stories years in advance but generally doesn't get down to the nitty gritty details until much later. Wellington was located in the same general location that the Commonwealth is (Cleveland area) and there is a very good chance that Kirkman told TellTale that he was planning on putting a group of settlements in this particular area for later in the comic and that they can develop one particular one to their liking. There is a good chance Kirkman hadn't thought of all the details for the Commonwealth way back in 2013 when season 2 was released but did know that there was going to be places to go in the general area where Wellington was.
VengefulKenny do you think it is just a pure coincidence that Wellington ended up being in the same general area of the U.S. that the Commonwealth did?
Again, everything you just said is complete conjecture. You can't just say maybe Kirkman planned this, perhaps Kirkman knew, and then use that as the basis for saying that Wellington is one of the Commonwealth's settlements. And don't you think Edith would have mentioned the enormous community that they're a part of and told Kenny and Clem to just make their way there? But no, she only told them yo come back in a few months because as far as she was concerned, Wellington was it. There is literally nothing to suggest your theory is true besides them being in the same part of the country, with the Commonwealth being in Ohio and Wellington being up in Michigan.
The Commonwealth ultimately just feels like a huge plothole to me. There was a well-known myth about this place called Wellington, but nobody has heard of this 50,000(!!!) population community that has several settlements and football games and all this crazy shit? Let alone Alexandria/Hilltop not hearing about it until this mysterious person on the radio was contacted? None of it makes any sense which is also why I'm not a big fan of this current arc. I much prefer seeing small group dynamics, not this huge community business.
Kenny I would agree with you if Wellington was ever developed better than it was. But it wasn't. Again basically all we know about it is that it had a big wall. And you are using even more conjecture than I am. As you were trying to say Wellington had this and it had that and they lived this way. And we don't know any of that. We don't know anything about Wellington other than it had a resident named Edith and had a big wall. Also Kenny didn't know exactly where Wellington was. He just said up north by Michigan. He didn't have a clue though where the exact location was. All he was going off of was rumors that he had heard.
Wellington would be a plot hole to the comic if it was developed more thoroughly and it didn't line up with the Commonwealth. But Wellington was so vaguely described in the game that you can easily include it as one of the Commonwealths settlements. If you choose not to say it was one of the settlements than that is fine but I will say that you are flat out wrong if you try to say that it can't be included as one of the Commonwealth settlements. Because it easily can given how vaguely it was developed.
Okay, I concede that the nature of Wellington is vague. But your statement was:
Which I disagree with. For the reasons I posted above, I think it is much more likely that Wellington WASN'T part of the Commonwealth. The lack of uniformed guards, lack of technology, lack of class system, the fact that they turned people away instead of incoporating them or directing them to the Commonwealth, etc. It could be a nice headcanon for you but the evidence we have seen from both communities don't really align with one another.
I do,but i haven't read the last issue who came out this week but i like what they're doing so far with this "Commonwealth" group,and i really hate that Sebastian guy already.
Yeah any attempt to connect Wellington to the comics is purely straw grasping nonsense, especially if you're trying to say it was intentional. It's clear that Wellington was on their own when met and if you actually took that ending, you find out in season 3 that they were attacked and presumably destroyed. They were getting their asses kicked so hard that the adult taking care of Clem and AJ decided they'd be safer out in the wilderness. It's possible that it was the Commonwealth forcefully annexing them, but it's also possible that it was Richmond wiping them out and raiding their supplies. Or it's possible it was Negan and his people, or the fucking tooth fairy. It could have been anyone.
As for the commonwealth, I already hate them. Class systems are a purely arbitrary social construct intended to elevate those with wealth and power and to devalue everyone else. Class systems are intended to keep the powerful powerful and the powerless powerless. Any post apoc society that tries to reinstate such a system is lead by people who are only concerned with maintaining power and control.
Good lucky trying to make a large civilization works without a class system, let me know when you or anyone got it.
THANK YOU. Trying to connect Wellington with the comics is pure folly.
I read the comics. I am not a fan of the Commonwealth because there is more going on then they are saying. I think they force other communities and settlements to join them which explains how they have a large population.
I do like Elodie, Mercer, and Stephanie, I hate Sebastian and right now I'm unsure of Pamela