Question about Kenny. (S1)

Do I need to help kill larry for Kenny to be a bro? Like I want him to immediatly wanna come with me in ep 4 but I feel horrible whilst holding lilly back.

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  • Nah you don't have to, Kenny comes with you if you either agreed with him most of the time or if you choose the "Clem is my family" option.

  • I miss this sence of confusion in ttg...like back then the choices were jacked up to the point where you don't know if you fucked up or not until the end or charecters change their behavior around you based on how you treated them...I hope tfs will have some of this back.

  • Thank God! Lilly being so mad at me makes me upset, THANK YOU!

    qualityrice posted: »

    Nah you don't have to, Kenny comes with you if you either agreed with him most of the time or if you choose the "Clem is my family" option.

  • I mean, why wouldn't you wanna smash Larry's face in with a salt lick?

  • Yeah, it's a damn shame that the relationships with other survivors are increasingly nowhere as emphasized past Season 1.

    I miss this sence of confusion in ttg...like back then the choices were jacked up to the point where you don't know if you fucked up or not

    1. Because Clementine.
    2. Because he's a group member.
    3. Because all the potential help you could have is useful.
    4. Because Lily is his daughter and/or the group leader.
    5. Because it's horrifying.
    6. Because you're tight room with little air.

    I mean, why wouldn't you wanna smash Larry's face in with a salt lick?

    1. Clementine becomes stronger everytime she sees some fucked up shit.

    2. He was a major asshole to Lee no matter how much we sided with him. Plus he was about to die.

    3. Again he was about to die. And even if he wasn't, he still needed to take his heart pills regularly which meant that he was a massive burden to the group.

    4. Kenny is a better leader. He was right about the leaving the motel.

    5. No shit, but it had to be done.

    6. That's better than being in a room with a 6-foot-four, 300 pound, seriously pissed-off dead guy.

    DabigRG posted: »

    * Because Clementine. * Because he's a group member. * Because all the potential help you could have is useful. * Because Lily is his daughter and/or the group leader. * Because it's horrifying. * Because you're tight room with little air.

  • You can get Kenny to help out if you choose the “Clem’s my family” option. If you don’t choose that option the only way you can get Kenny to volunteer to help save Clementine is if Lee sides with Kenny absolutely 100% of the time. You have to be completely pledged to Kenny. You always have to be on his side of the fence. I remember trying a playthrough where I tried to get this result where I sided with him on every choice but because I remained neutral in one of the Lilly vs Kenny conversations and I told Kenny to give Molly a chance at the end of episode 4 he was like, “Lee, you selfish monster! You only sided with me 95% of the time not 100%! I’m sorry Lee but I can’t bring myself to volunteer to help a child who had nothing to do with your choices. You’re on your own now.”

    DISCLAIMER: I actually really like Kenny but he definitely is a stubborn asshole. However, he is a well-written asshole with a heart of gold if you side with him 100% of the time. I really enjoyed his arc both season 1 and 2. I don’t mean to start any confli- … Oh shit.

    “THIS ONE SPEAKS BLASPHOMY! HOW DARE YOU SPEAK SUCH HORRENDOUS WORDS OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR! DEATH TO THE HERETIC!”

  • I'm not sure what's wrong with who's game cause I seldom sided with Kenny on major choices and yet I was able to get him to come along, if I remember correctly.

    Veeeee posted: »

    You can get Kenny to help out if you choose the “Clem’s my family” option. If you don’t choose that option the only way you can get Kenny to

  • You probably chose the Clem's my family option.

    DabigRG posted: »

    I'm not sure what's wrong with who's game cause I seldom sided with Kenny on major choices and yet I was able to get him to come along, if I remember correctly.

  • Perhaps.

    Veeeee posted: »

    You probably chose the Clem's my family option.

  • wow what happened to my thread

  • Tangents.

    L-dog posted: »

    wow what happened to my thread

  • It got raided by the dead

    L-dog posted: »

    wow what happened to my thread

  • Can someone link the Kenny point system that determines how he behaves at the end of s1e4?

  • I know right? What sort of uncaring, loathsome, insolent, cretin would go on such tangents that barely have anything to do with the topic of this thread! As for myself I know that I have not nor will I ever go on such tangents because I just don’t understand it!

    L-dog posted: »

    wow what happened to my thread

  • Here's my recent reposting of it.

    Can someone link the Kenny point system that determines how he behaves at the end of s1e4?

  • edited May 2018

    He is a well written asshole, but he does not have a heart of gold...in the next episode he leaves you to die if you do not help kill Larry. And taking his side 100% That is not being a friend...it is just potential bitch status. Friends never agree 100% about everything.

    Veeeee posted: »

    You can get Kenny to help out if you choose the “Clem’s my family” option. If you don’t choose that option the only way you can get Kenny to

  • edited May 2018

    I think so. i've seen some people claim otherwise and say they agreed with everything he done apart from Larry and he still didn't go with them. I'm not sure how accurate that is though.

    I mean, I remember seeing some guy on youtube (usually not into the whole watching other people play video games thing but I wanted to see the other options) and from about the 5 minutes I saw, this guy mostly rambled on about how much how he hated the whole boat idea. I think he flat out got the "don't know why you're looking over here Lee speech" and he seemed completely shocked and tried to claim he always agreed with Kenny lmao. You'd probably be ok if you agree with him often. I don't understand why anyone would want to save Larry's sorry ass in the first place though.

  • Kenny's help is only immediate if you sided with him entirely with the exception of two major choices. I can't remember how exactly that works, but I do know that siding with him on absolutely everything except BOTH saving Larry's life and saving Ben's life will lose you that immediacy. I think you can do one or the other, but not both, even if you always take his side.

  • well fuck it guys im gonna kill larry, idk why but I just dont want ben to die.

  • Actually, I'm pretty sure both I and the SGB saved both and still managed to get Kenny to come along.
    But if you just feel like doing that, then that's your choice.

    L-dog posted: »

    well fuck it guys im gonna kill larry, idk why but I just dont want ben to die.

  • yeah I want the whole group to come and im pretty sure ben only comes with kenny if hes ur bro

    DabigRG posted: »

    Actually, I'm pretty sure both I and the SGB saved both and still managed to get Kenny to come along. But if you just feel like doing that, then that's your choice.

  • Actually, I'm pretty sure you get a chance to appeal to Ben just as well as Christa and Kenny.

    L-dog posted: »

    yeah I want the whole group to come and im pretty sure ben only comes with kenny if hes ur bro

  • Yeah, I guess "heart of gold" isn't the best way to describe it. He is only loyal to Lee if you agree with him all of the time. He is much more understanding with Clementine In season 2. He has his selfish and butt-hurt qualities but ultimately he cares about Clementine and is loyal to her.

    He is a well written asshole, but he does not have a heart of gold...in the next episode he leaves you to die if you do not help kill Larry.

  • edited May 2018

    If you don't want to kill Larry you can still get Kenny to help out in episode 4 by choosing the family option but Kenny and Lee certainly won't be total bros. If you're going for the bro path with Kenny you have to kill Larry.

    L-dog posted: »

    well fuck it guys im gonna kill larry, idk why but I just dont want ben to die.

  • or drop ben

    Veeeee posted: »

    If you don't want to kill Larry you can still get Kenny to help out in episode 4 by choosing the family option but Kenny and Lee certainly won't be total bros. If you're going for the bro path with Kenny you have to kill Larry.

  • edited May 2018

    In reply to @L-dog
    I wouldn't drop Ben because his second death is a lot more emotional and it makes for a better scene but this choice is up to you. Make the choices that suits your tastes.

  • Do you know if kenny will come with ben if you are neutral with him?

    Veeeee posted: »

    In reply to @L-dog I wouldn't drop Ben because his second death is a lot more emotional and it makes for a better scene but this choice is up to you. Make the choices that suits your tastes.

  • edited May 2018

    That's not true. In my playthrough, I sided with Lilly instead of Kenny and he still ended up saying "You've always been there for me, Lee". The way this works is, everytime you side with Kenny, you get a few "points" and if you have enough at the end of episode 4, he will volunteer to help you, you don't have to side with him EVERY time, but MOST of the time. Small things like killing Ben, stealing from the station wagon and not shooting the bitten girl in episode 3 makes Kenny like you.

    Veeeee posted: »

    You can get Kenny to help out if you choose the “Clem’s my family” option. If you don’t choose that option the only way you can get Kenny to

  • Here's the exact information, since it seems no one actually visited the link:

    Episode 1
    Save Duck = 2 points
    Side with Kenny over Larry = 1.5 points

    Episode 2
    Don't pick Lilly's side = 0.75 points
    Help kill Larry = 1.5 points

    Episode 3
    Don't shoot the girl on the street = 0.75 points
    Don't pick Lilly's side. = 0.75 points
    Shoot Duck = 2 points

    Episode 4
    Kill the zombie boy = 0.75 points
    Drop Ben = 2 points

    >

    If you get 9 or higher, Kenny will come with you no matter what.
    If you get higher than 4 but less than 9, you'll have to convince Kenny to come with you.
    If you get 4 or less, Kenny won't come with you.

    qualityrice posted: »

    That's not true. In my playthrough, I sided with Lilly instead of Kenny and he still ended up saying "You've always been there for me, Lee".

  • Yes, exactly! I didn't remember where to find this but this is exactly what I meant.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Here's the exact information, since it seems no one actually visited the link: Episode 1 Save Duck = 2 points Side with Kenny ov

  • ok but srsly can u convince neutral kenny to have ben come too guys?

  • please help im on the option to kill larry or not

  • I think it's at least possible.

    L-dog posted: »

    ok but srsly can u convince neutral kenny to have ben come too guys?

  • Dances WELL SE YA GUYS LATER TIME TO TRY TO SAVE LARRY AND FAIL!

    DabigRG posted: »

    I think it's at least possible.

  • Guess I will have to validate my game files because I did every single one of those options except I stayed neautral in on of the Lilly vs Kenny conversations. I even dropped Ben in that play through and he still was crying about how I wasn't there for him.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Here's the exact information, since it seems no one actually visited the link: Episode 1 Save Duck = 2 points Side with Kenny ov

  • ...Huh. As in with doubts or as in he hates you?

    Veeeee posted: »

    Guess I will have to validate my game files because I did every single one of those options except I stayed neautral in on of the Lilly vs K

  • Because Clementine.

    No excuse. She needed to adapt to the world they were now living in. Treating her like a little girl would get her killed like Chuck said. Plus smashing his head in was necessary for survival like it or not.

    Because he's a group member.

    A group member that everyone hated apart from Lilly.

    Because all the potential help you could have is useful.

    True although he was helping no one by being a horrible shit to everyone for no reason at all.

    Because Lily is his daughter and/or the group leader.

    Except that it sadly for her had to be done to keep everyone safe.

    Because it's horrifying.

    True but again it needed to be done and in a word like that we would have to go through unspeakable shit.

    Because you're tight room with little air.

    Why would this be a reason not to put Larry down? Lol

    DabigRG posted: »

    * Because Clementine. * Because he's a group member. * Because all the potential help you could have is useful. * Because Lily is his daughter and/or the group leader. * Because it's horrifying. * Because you're tight room with little air.

  • If you seldom sided with him then you must have chosen the clem is family option. That is the only way

    DabigRG posted: »

    I'm not sure what's wrong with who's game cause I seldom sided with Kenny on major choices and yet I was able to get him to come along, if I remember correctly.

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