Returning charecters as bad guys
How many returning charecters do you think we will see agian? Telltale have a lot of unknown statuses charecters waiting to be either used as good guys or (more fucked up from Kenny) bad guys. Like if we seen lily agian will our choices of Lee in ep 3 of s1 change her face on clementine if shown agian? Or will Christa after all she's gone into is introduced as a crazy bitch that lost her sanity? The possibilities are endless it's how it'll play out the real question.what do you guys think?
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Christa is so boring she would probably just stand in the background and be depressed. I hope to see Lilly returning as an ally/antagonist depending on your choice/relationship with her. Another character I would love to see is Nate, he's crazy and unpredictable and he would definetely lighten up the mood. Molly have like 0% chance of returning since the new girl, Violet is another Molly 5.0 and we won't get 2 of the same type of character.
I agree about Lilly returning as an antagonist or seeing Nate again,they have so much potential,i just hope if a character return (or maybe two characters) they don't steal the spotlight just like Kenny did in S2.
And also give us a good explanation of how that character is alive and not just something like "I got lucky,real lucky".
Maybe a quick flashback would be enough tbh
Naaaaate, Nate. I get stranger danger vibes off him yet he’s genuinely funny. He could make for an interesting villain if done correctly.
Arvo, Becca, and Tavia were one the three big ones over here, though the former was also inherently somewhat ambiguous in most of my scenarios. And while I have since considered the first two irrelevant/obsolete to an extent, not sure how the Boarding School Survivors angle influences that validity.
Adam's hypothetical turn up could potentially lead down this road, but that's a bit of a stretch.
Baseball Kid would be hilariously nonsensical.
Nate is a character I've seen people wanting back for some reason or another, afterschool special villain that he is.
Joan is a potential recurring villain with a vengeance, for better or worse, so there's that too.
I know I also saw a number of people suggesting Lilly as well, but honestly, it usually just came across as unnecessary limiting(?) and spite. Christa suddenly getting this type of role would also be more than a little chauvinist and forced.
Ultimately, the main problem with this idea is that Telltale's habit of killing off over 73% of their characters inherently leaves few returns to pick from and the actual relevance those few would have regardless of alignment is incredibly small, not to mention slapdash. If there are gonna be major villains in "Clementine's Story," they'll more than likely be original.
coughViolet.cough
Lo and behold one of the reasons I'm personally not too enthused.
The only person I can see returning as an antagonist without their inclusion seeming forced is Nate, since he has no former connection or impact to Clementine's story whatsoever.
Lilly and Bonnie/Mike/Arvo returning as villains would only serve to become a cheap attempt at a revenge plot that wouldn't add anything to the story other than fan service. Christa becoming a villain would basically be an insult to her character, and would also be nonsensical. Joan/Clint...I don't really care about them at all, and I wouldn't miss them if they never return again.
Violet a villain?
I was mostly joking. About as much as one can joke about her, anyway.
You are the one and only I see joking about her.
My point exactly.
"Nate would be awesome as a villain who has aj captive and clem has to spend all season try to get him back" telltale headwriter and team
You know what, maybe they should do like they did with Clementine and in theory Kate(and/or should've did with Marianna more in practice) and
have Violet be kidnapped by him at some point, motivating the others to step out into the world and bring out their best in the name of saving her.
Mariana wasn't enough for you, was she?
Well, now that you mention it, I suppose that it's some of the same problems, but I actually feel more comfortable being critical this time due to the situation and character concept being worse.Also, don't say it like that. It's kinda raptorial.
I didn't take you for an early fan of the juve.
Clementine doesn't care for anyone but AJ....at least at this point and I'm sure she won't be bffs with everyone with the group.She will think about ajs safety as a number one priority so if nate has him and violet then it'll make sence...but then agian why the fuck would nate kidnap a fucking 5 year old.
I was referencing Clementine sneaking off with the Stranger and the Boarding School Group, respectively.
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Because Violet had him with her at the time at the time?
I think they shouldn’t bring back any characters from the previous games. It’s been done once before and the writers ruined the character so I don’t want to see them ruin e.g. Lilly or Christa as well
The only two characters I can see return as villains are Nate (for obvious reasons) and Lily. Lily can be a Norma like villain where she has her reasons and is simply looking out for her group. I don’t see Christa becoming a villain.
DID it, though?
I think I'll dig up my concepts for Arvo in "Season 3" for fun.
EDIT: Found em!
It's debatable.
So you dont think they ruined Kenny’s character in the later half of Season 2? Because i certainly do!
If by ruined, you mean made him an overexposured, overglorified, and occasionally bordering on straight-up unlikable asshat, then sure.
Please don’t start that again. You didnt need to say that, even if it is true that they made him like that in S2. Just don’t, thanks
Okay, sorry.
its ok, i just dont want to get into an argument about it thats all
What same problems? How come you instantly assume she will be like Mariana? Please, elaborate.
Haven't seen the stream..
I can do anything I want! You are picking on them. Nobody talks about Mariana anymore and here you are. Also, we haven't seen Violet in action, yet.
Can't say I am. I know nothing about her whatsover. But who knows, I might like her when the game comes out.
Mainly, the whole "really easy/shallow characterization that's also made immediately redundant/weird by the presence of Clementine™" thing. Plus, the [former?] overabundance of girl characters.
Also, in this case, there's her debatable status as a Christa/Jane-clone, depending on how you feel about that.
She's snarky and pragmatic!
No I'm not...
Says the person who brought her up.
I know, I know. I just don't much of any hope, second least of all for her.
Oh, so you're just standing up for her regardless?
I can respect that.
I was sort of hoping Lily would be the leader of the New Frontier instead we got some of the worst written characters in Telltales existence. Christa is definitely the most probable return. Molly would have made an excellent side protagonist, but I feel like that opportunity is long since squandered. Nate is unfortunately never going to return (breaks my heart), same case with the 400 Days Main Characters.
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP i want to see more adventures of asswipe !
And more rock paper scissors moments between Wyatt and Eddie please.
I want to see Lee return as the season antagonist with an eyepatch, robot arm, a scar across his head and the ability to summon lightning every time he laughs.
It will turn out that everything (yes. everything) that has gone wrong in Clem's life since she "abandoned" Lee was all his doing. He planned Omid's death, Christa's kidnap, Carver, AJ's birth, David taking AJ... Everything was all a part of Lee's master plan for world domination, because Clem holds the key to immortality and true power (as discussed in one of my previous ridiculous story posts): Her Hat. And he will stop at nothing to get it.
That idea... is... PERFECT!
How come you are not the lead writer of The Final Season? It's not fair.
The funny thing is. Your ideas are better sounding than anything written for Season 3 lol
@Fangirl10 and @dan290786. I know, right!? They need to give me a job there!
Who knows? She might be better than Clementine. Probably she will be calling her out on her shit.
Mariana was a Jane/Christa clone? Wat? Violet might be a better person than Jane. Also, she might be group-oriented. She haven't left the others.
You said "same" problems. What did you want me to think?
Go ahead. Make fun of me and you'll see what happens.
Pretty sure they said blunt, not snarky. Also, they said like two sentences about each character. I watched TWD stream last night from OzzyUK's channel, the sound was not good, but whatever.
Yes, you are.
Says the guy who made a meme of her this week on Monday.
Yes, got a problem?
The nicest thing you've said to me recently.
And in the end it was all a dream in clems head,that would be an awesome twist that will leave players shocked."telltale headwriter and team"
True possibility. Of course, you know how that'll probably go over.
Sorry, got my rending wires crossed--I was specifically talking about Violet there.
Though Mariana IS an obvious Clementine expy--in a story featuring [ANF!]Clem as a major focus.
I understand. I had to back to review our context, but I understand.
So let me diverge: Different characterizations, different purposes, a few similar issues in my increasingly weary eyes.
...Oh.
So even duller, then?
Yeah, well that's a meme--an image meant to satire or at least make people feel some type of way, whether because of relateability or because it's a peculiar image.
Hey, it's better than a 50 mil'th Kenny meme.
Ergo, I created that specifically because I knew people would like it in addition to finding it humorous myself.
Yeah, well, maybe it's good that I've been backing off for posting as frequently.
They will probably get in a fight, knowing how aggressive Clementine is now...
If you mean a copy of S1!Clementine, I don't really see it. Clementine was a very sweet girl and Mariana while a sweetheart, has a sardonic side to her and to me she seems more comfortable speaking her mind.
The thing she has in common with ANF!Clementine is the model. (I always had a feeling that they share the same model before Lilacsbloom said it in the Details thread.)
But you still felt the need to laugh at me.
Don't stay up too late. Go to bed before 1AM. I need to follow my own advice...
The sound? Maybe? I will watch the video you sent me, too. I wouldn't know if they ever said more stuff regarding TWDG...
Mark Darin was there, though!
I see.
That's true.
Nooo, I am not trying to say that, .. It's just... you've been attacking my recent posts(headcanons). You sounded mean. I just want some love and affection. ?
I meant out of universe, but that could potentially happen as well.
Hm...that is something of a difference.
So really, it's more that their purpose and intended audience reaction are initially very much the same.
I've slightly gone back and forth on how accurate that is. I think the compromise would be that they are indeed based on the same model, but the proportions and/or mass distributions are varied in places.
Key example: their head and face shapes. Mariana's head seems more spherical and with stronger cheekbones, while Clementine's face is more of an oval.
Sorry. It was just a bit of a funny statement, 's all.
Do'h!
...I meant weary in the sense of frequent disappointment and increased cynicism but okay.
No, Violet.
Of course not--because I did, silly.
To be fair, it was somewhat eyebrow raising thought. And you know me.
And here I threw in Gabe's reaction partly to lessen that impression.
Regardless, my bad.