Why do people like Violet and why do they keep spreading bs about Louis?
Okay so I just want to understand something alright? I get it that some people like Vi, some people like Louis. It's okay. But why do people like Violet?
For me Violet is basically a walking depression. Really, what's so fantastic about her? Whenever she is she basically is talking about how her life is hard, about how sad she is and about her loses (Minnie). C'mon. Every single person lost someone. Doesn't mean you have to cry 24/7 about this to every new person you meet, ugh...
I mean really. What do people like about her? I'm not saying she is a bad character, but I still don't see anything that makes her so special. I'm starting to believe that people only ship Vi and Clem cause they feel sorry for her. And please don't come with something like "They're simillar" - no, they're not.
Louis on the other hand is type of character that we never ever had in the series. He makes ton of fun from his life, he cares about Clementine and about AJ. He makes Clementine and AJ smile and laugh all the time. People keep calling him immature even though as he clarified "he totally gets things done" meaning that if he has something to do then he will do it - of course on his terms.
Most fans of Louis don't really tend to say any shit about Violet. And that's why it's weird for me that big number of Violet fans are spreading bunch of shit about him. Of course I'm not saying that there never was any Louis fan that didn't say any bs about Violet, but I think that you can agree with me that there are a lot of more Violet fans attacking Louis than Louis fans attacking Violet.
So please tell me. Why is she so liked in our beautiful community?
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I really hate to have to say anything about the matter, but honestly, because she's LGBT, predictably more relevant to the ongoing story-arc, they personally don't find Louis particularly entertaining, and ironic(or fitting?) considering the last game, they prioritize shipping over just enjoying the damn story. What bit there is at the moment.
(really wish I wasn't on mobile right now)
firstly, omid was here before Louis. saying that we haven't had a character who tries to make the apocalypse something to have fun and joke about is just incorrect.
secondly, I've seen Louis fans bash violet fans, saying the same things you said about violet (but with more vitriol) and worse.
third, she still manages to be friends with Louis and tries her best to appease the two children of the group (Tenn and aj). she also, though very unreasonably grumpy about it, she's not trying to put off Brody for what happened to the twins.
sorry for the tone, v frustrated for other reasons.
I also came to the point in which I thought that LGBT supporters will pick her because they're... LGBT. And most LGBT supporters will brag about LGBT everywhere. Even in video games. Ugh...
also Louis just straight up starts hitting on Clem, so
lol
Omid is surely not the Louis type character. Yeah he was making some fun, but certinately not Louis-type of a character.
Yeah I know. I even talked about it in 5th part of the topic. But I see a lot more people from Violet to spread bs about Louis.
Yeah they're friends, but she is too rude for him. I mean I understand that not everyone does like characters like Louis, but still. She needs to chill a bit.
Well you want to know why people like Violet and ship violetine then piss all over any arguments or opinions they might have. Sooooo why should anyone bother giving you their opinion when your minds made up?
Okay, being serious here, you wanna reword that to fit them a little better there?
That's how discussion works right? You give your arguments to other people's arguments. So if I could perhaps know why other people like her then I could think about it for a second time and see some things I didn't see before?
While I think/know what you're getting at, mind explaining what the Louis-type of character is?
Omid made few jokes and he was considered as a funny guy. Right. I get it. Louis on the other hand basically jokes all the time, tries to be in a middle of everything. He seeks for fun whereever he is. Just like with this walker in the forest. Ofc when there is a need to he also is serious.
So in my opinion (in my opinion is key here) comparing them isn't really a good idea.
Whoa whoa chill out there. I just said they aren't similar because they really aren't simillar IN MY OPINION. There isn't any other character in school that is close to Clem type of a character. If you want to come with something that they're similar then go with it, but also go with some arguments that prove it. I don't find any so that's why I said that. If you have them then feel free to add them and we can discuss it like adults. Didn't make this topic to throw shit at other people so let's keep it cool, ok?
The only things they really have in common are that they're nice and they provide comic relief. Broad strokes that unfortunately is somewhat uncommon in this series.
But yeah, Louis is indeed an inherently more realized character than Omid was.
No point in explaining my opinions you've made up your mind so have a lovely day
I don't think it's Violet fans who do it at all. People can dislike Louis if they want the only reason I which find dumb is accusing him to be a fuck boy and "only wanting to get in Clem's pants". Which is not the case at all and like Violet generally takes an intrest in Clementine however he's just a lot more open about it than Violet is. If it was like that I'm pretty sure he wouldn't go in lengths to go in between Clem and his clearly unstable best friend pointing a gun to protect her. That and Telltale ain't gonna have 17 year olds smash.
But like I said, people can dislike Louis all they want just like people can dislike Violet and Marlon all they want, people are entitled to their own opinion.
Honestly, I just find Louis and most of his dialogue cringy af. And it seems to me that he is only interested in getting into Clems pants.
Violet on the other hand is alot more interesting in my opinion. Is she a bit introverted and edgy? Yes, but it is shown quite clearly that she is capable of caring about other people. I like the way she opens up to Clem too. It feels like she actually wants to get to know her.
Anyway, that's just my opinion. Feel free to shit on it all you want xd.
Hold up, you needn't drag Marlon into this.
Well okay... why did you decide to make 3 comments to this discussion that literally brought nothing to it then?
Man TT adding a lesbian character really was not necessary because now and for the rest of this season people will not remember this game because of its story.but they'll remember all the vi x lu war threads.
No, actually, I'd say throwing in a third, not-being-[as-]aggressively-debated-in-context party is an exact good thing to do in that context.
Doing any kind of these threads will only bring headaches to all of us.people won't like vi and will always shit on her no matter what same as lu.....u can't change people you can only ignore them.
I don't find them cringy, but it's your opinion of course. But c'mon man. He clearly cares about her and AJ. He is not just 24/7 complementing her, but he tries to be nice for her, he wants her to live in less stress than she is living right now. He also gave up his food for AJ and he defended her against Marlon. It's not really accurate to call him a horny teenager that wants to bang.
Also in my opinion AJ needs a person like Louis in his life to feel like a kid for once. He was pretty much raised in pretty serious environment since he was born so it would be okay for him to have some cool time too. And Louis as an older brother figure could really work.
That's true, but I can try to understand them at least.
Did you?
Well - as of now only one person really talked about Violet and why she is a cool character. Didn't change POV on her, but still I'm waiting for some more.
I really didn't like it when he gave his food to AJ, xd. The way he was looking at Clem while handing AJ the food made it pretty clear that he only did it because he wanted to f*ck Clem lol.
I can understand how people might look at the scene differently, though.
I think at this point it's pretty clear. No one actually likes Violet, it's just an elaborate conspiracy aimed at hurting Louis fans. You in particular, actually. I can't really get into the details as to how I know this, it's dangerous enough just telling you. But this is exactly what they want. You can't let them get you down man, if you do that, they win.
Well for me it looked like he knew that AJ was very hungry and he wanted to be nice to him. Of course I'm pretty sure he also knew that it will give him some points in terms of Clementine liking him. But let's not look at the reason okay? It was a very nice gesture no matter the intention.
Fair enough
Don't worry about it pal. I'm prepared B|
Is it bad that I honestly thought there was to be merit to how you started out for a split second?
I'll keep it simple here:
For me, Vi has had a lot more development in comparison to Louis (mostly due to my choices). That's simply the reason why I prefer her over Jaden. Both seem to be great characters with lots of potential, but the scales are slighty tipped towards Vi's end due to the amount of development she received in E1, in comparison to Lou (in my playthrough).
That's all there is to it.
Maybe you just need to see if episode 2 builds on her character enough for you.
Marlon bad boi
Here is my 2 cents. I like them both. So how do you like them apples? Now....having said that and knowing there is always a "but" in these conversations...here is why my primary canon play is with Violet.
Who better compliment's Clem? Who has her same views on getting things done before you play around? Who's actions are more likely to keep the group safe? That is Violet.
Louis is a fun loving guy...he though gets side tracked....finding food was very important and he decided to play with a trapped walker. If you were taking care of a child..who would you rather be in a group with?
And that is my reason for going Violet.
Oh c'mon. He was playing with that walker for 2-3 minutes. Don't act like he doesn't do anything. By looking at AJ's behaviour and attitude right now I would rather have Louis on my side to let him be an older brother figure to AJ. He doesn't need anymore serious people in his life. The thing is he needs people that will make him feel like life is worth living and people that will make him feel like kid for a bit.
You use misleading facts and arguments to back up your claim.
1-First you start with a false and biased title saying that Violet fans spread bs about Louis, without any basis for this assertion. Its really just about numbers, there are considerably more Violet fans, so there will be more people talking bs about Louis, you are trying to say that Louis fans are superior because they supposedly don't do the same, they don't do at the same level cause they are minority.
2-You try discredit Violet as a person, saying that she isn't interesting, that you see no reason for people to like her romantically, but thats just your opinion, you prefer Louis personality, some people just don't.
3-You proceed to acuse people of wanting Violet and Clem together just cause they are sorry for her, that is just not true and you have no way of knowing, you are just throwing random theories.
4-Then you try to explain how Louis is better, but this is entirelly subjective as i already said, and you try to claim that he isn't immature, he is, this is a fact, just cause he eventually will do something doesn't mean he isn't.
5-You smoothly try to force your opinion arguing "i'm not saying that there NEVER was any Louis fan..." yes, if you tried to say that you would be delusional, but no, we CAN'T agree that are a lot more of Violet fans that are attacking Louis, universally there are more people attacking Louis just cause there are more Violet fans, you can't say that a higher percentage of Violent fans attacks the other romantic option when compared with Louis, you have no proof of that.
That said, we only had one episode.
Violet has more development in Episode One, but I have a good feeling that Louis will have way more development than her in Episode 2 considering what happened to his best friend.
Just be patient. Louis will have his own spotlight soon.
Even Marlon alluded that Louis was not the most delligent of workers when he said He just hoped Louis showed up to the hunt. I am sure Louis does a lot of work...but there is a time and a place.